RTI Arms

[Sfttailrdr46]

This thread has gone full course unless the admins overruled it is locked and will be moved if deemed necessary

[Bizill]

Thank you very much for reopening the thread, moderator.  This website and this thread in particular is the first place I heard of the Priest and this is the first place I go to DAILY for updates, both to read and to share what little knowledge I've gained.  Just because a few want to compare it to and deem it a "copy" doesn't mean it is and the heated debate will cause a lockdown WHICH IS NOT FAIR to those seeking information on the product.
 

The Priest is no more a copy than a Ford F-150 compared to a Chevy Silverado.  They both share similar traits because let's be honest, how many times can you re-invent the wheel?  They are both trucks.  You want to see a real copy?  Visit this http://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=116835.0 and then comment away, which I notice hardly anyone is doing...granted, though, this is blatant disregard for patents and what not, but please go enjoy throwing mud in that direction instead of here, please. 

I love this thread.  The Priest may end up being a POS but it could also travel in the other direction but let's not clip its wings before it has a chance to take flight.  Please.

ETA:  I was wrong, I see the same perpetrators ARE dogging the Priest over in the other thread.  Have at it and let that one get locked down, please don't lock this one here.  Thank you in advance.

ETA:  Wow, competition sure is an ugly beast.  Best to shut it down before it hits the market.  What not worthy is that RTI Arms isn't here to defend themselves so I guess potential customers have to.  Or hopefully this thread can just remain facts and information and not a debate.  Yo competition, please don't shut this down.  If this Priest not worthy I may have to go your direction so don't leave me with a sour taste in my mouth.

[rkr]

What not worthy is that RTI Arms isn't here to defend themselves so I guess potential customers have to.

There is airgun manufacturer participation in this thread, it's just not RTI.

[Bizill]

What not worthy is that RTI Arms isn't here to defend themselves so I guess potential customers have to.

There is airgun manufacturer participation in this thread, it's just not RTI.

Believe me, I see the play.  And in another thread I complimented the unnamed party for being trustworthy DUE to their presence in various forums.  That means the manufacturer cares to market their product which I commend.  But trashing an up-in-coming company with zero resistance is akin to bullying, imo.  It is a dog eat dog world, though and in the end I may have to swallow my pride and go with unnamed party's product, which from what I can tell IS a superb product but I just want to be a "first" with a new product, but the wait is killing me.

To keep things rolling along, I hate to say I have no updates to offer.  It does seem to me that RTI not marketing their product seems like a terrible strategy. 

[Nomadic Pirate]

Still think that Priest looks terrible, there's no flow to the gun looks like it's put together with spare parts, all skinny than with that awful looking oversized bottle, looks more like a supersoaker than a pellet gun.

I'm all about function, but boy I still like to see proportions in anything not just guns.


As for copy ? there's always been copying of concepts like Chevy copying the Ford Ranchero with the El camino, exactly the same ? .....no, but cheesy nontheless,......someone copyed someone else's concept of this gun, I don't know who was it, but one thing is for sure, FX is tastefully done the Priest is downright childish in execution.

[Bizill]

No arguing the FX Impact is a better looking gun.  No argument there at all.  I personally have shunned that product for the time being due to price and I PERSONALLY didn't like how they handled the pellet probe issue.  For now that's taken it off the plate.  Vulcan, Cricket, WarP, possibly Wilcat, soon to be released Mutant .25, Edgun, the list goes on.  All gorgeous.  All expensive.  If the Priest proves its worth then for the price it'll be a big winner, form be darned.

[oldpro]

 Im glad the thread is unlocked as well I believe we all have and opinion and they need to be shared even if I dont agree with others and others dont agree with me thats fine we all are just sharing our opinions and thats how it should be BRAVO GTA

[Sfttailrdr46]

I just felt a little cooling off time was needed . I will always intervene when I see things going south, but I hate being forced to call time-out. This time I felt that several members were getting a touch hot under the collar but there is too much good information coming out for this thread to stay locked. 
 
Yes the avatar is me at Devils Tower Wyoming for the Sturgis 2000 MC Rally 

[oldpro]

 I agree it was getting a little heated you did the right thing.

[MJP]

Is the valve fed via pipe from the trigger housing? Or was I thinking wrong looking at the pictures. Little slimmer tank and some more rounded corners to the stock and it would be ok ish ar clone ag.
Bet it handles nice and the balance is good.
Marko

[Bizill]

The bottle feeds through the trigger frame and then through the pipe and goes to a reservoir housed in the buttstock area.  Even with the bottle removed you still have enough air left in the reservoir for a few shots of .22.

[Motorhead]

Lol .... All PISTOLS look like pistols ... RIFLES like rifles, CARBINES in the middle with BULLPUPS over on the left ... Lol

Within the spirit of this CLONE / COPY debate ... don't miss the post made above #105
WOW now there is what we're talking about .... lesser "A likeness" is pure semantics IMO.

See: http://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=116835.0

[anti-squirrel]

I agree it was getting a little heated you did the right thing.

I think if anything is evident, we all have views that are our own, they all matter, and all of us are airgunners.  IE: we're like a family.  Sometimes dysfunctional but together for a common good.

This is a great chance for everybody to learn, so it's all good.

[oldpro]

I agree it was getting a little heated you did the right thing.

I think if anything is evident, we all have views that are our own, they all matter, and all of us are airgunners.  IE: we're like a family.  Sometimes dysfunctional but together for a common good.

This is a great chance for everybody to learn, so it's all good.

well said

[skorec]

Sorry i have some problem to understand fully all yours discussions but I think that   technical design  is very different . 

The Priest is able to shoot also without any bottles but unfortunately the pressure is not stabilized and 4 shots should have very different  speed.  By the way one shoot is enough in some situations before connecting  bottle .  Also pressure regulating systems and  barrels are  totally different .

In my opinion the Priest is  momentary the best  on PCP market and after adding CZ barrel at caliber .133 and hammerless function like Huben K1 will be “more  best”.  And I think that name of company will not be RTI or FX.   

[Nomadic Pirate]

Sorry i have some problem to understand fully all yours discussions but I think that   technical design  is very different . 

The Priest is able to shoot also without any bottles but unfortunately the pressure is not stabilized and 4 shots should have very different  speed.  By the way one shoot is enough in some situations before connecting  bottle .  Also pressure regulating systems and  barrels are  totally different .

In my opinion the Priest is  momentary the best  on PCP market and after adding CZ barrel at caliber .133 and hammerless function like Huben K1 will be “more  best”.  And I think that name of company will not be RTI or FX.   

Huuhhh ?

[anti-squirrel]

I believe skorec is saying:

"... the technical design of the Priest differs notably from the FX -internally as well as some visual differences.  The form is similar.

The Priest can shoot sans bottle but isn't stabilized (regulated?) if shooting that way.  The regulator system and bottle are notably different from the RTI gun to the FX, and the Priest currently offers some of the best features on the market, but once a PCP is offered in a larger caliber with a hammerless firing mechanism (such as the Huben K-1) and CZ barrel it will undoubtedly be the best."

CZ makes some great barrels, and a hammerless firing system would be nice, especially in a larger bore for those wanting that type of gun.  But the best?  I dunno... wouldn't be that useful for people wanting a lightweight low-power paper-cutter and ratting tool.

[Bizill]

If shooting the Priest with the bottle in a remote location such as a backpack, the bottle itself is regulated so wouldn't the Priest still be fed regulated shots?  Am I missing something?

[Jman2311]

Pretty sure they are refering to no bottle attached at all...

[skorec]

Peter, veeeeery thanks for explaining.

Bizzil, just first shoot after disconnect bottles  is with the right/regulated pressure. Via very small internal reservoir capacity  next 3 time  shoots should be much slower.