Pcp or springer?

[Barnsnelbon]

So I'm just starting to get into airguns and want to upgrade to a new gun. IV been looking aroundand IV found a few guns that I like, the benjamin trail np not the np2, a rws 34, benjamin discovory . I like the idea of pcp they are supposed to be easier to shoot and more accurate but I comes with a price. I'm looking for something accurate to about 45-50 yards to use for plinking and small game hunting. I need something that is relativly quiet too so I dont wet of my neigboors  id like to spend about 200-300 on everything. Trying to decide between the too any help is appreciated 

[sawtoothscream]

I would take the disco all day over the NP, had both still have the disco.      It is a loud gun though and seeing how you live in maryland I doubt you will want to risk throwing a LDC on it (believe you guys have really strict gun laws like NY where a pellet gun is listed as a firearm).   Also make sure the neighbors are cool with it cuase you guys problably have the cant shoot a firearm within 500' of houses as well.

The guy that runs our gun club airgun range owns alot of extremely expensive airguns and highly recommends the rws 34    also could go with a flying dragons fully tuned springer for less $ and have a great shooter. 

[Springrrrr]

$200-300 you may as well forget PCP at that budget.  If you up it a bit to a little over 500, you should look at the Walther LGU.  If not, the LGV is right where you want to be.

[Barnsnelbon]

If I did get the disco I was going to get a moderator for it. IV been looking into sprinters i like them, I have one now, I'm ok with it but I just hate that it's so easy to Ben inaccurate with them. And I don't think my budget is to unreasonable for a pcp like the descovory I can get s used one or even new from Amazon for around 200 that leaves me money for a pump or tank, haven't decided what I want yet.

[dcorvino]

Hi
You have some pretty good choices there
Another rifle I would look at is the Maximus it is a nice pcp rifle.
I would also check to see what flying dragon airguns has to offer.
Mike sells some nice springers.
I would recommend contacting some members in your area and see if they would let you try their airguns
Hope this helps

Dave

[Barnsnelbon]

Hey thanks for the advice IV been able to hold the trail and discovory at stores but haven't ben able to shoot them. Ill have to look around and see what I can shoot

[Ol'DeadEye]

I own all three you mentioned.
My thoughts are:

Trail -NP (22 cal) is heavy, quiet and reasonably accurate and easy to shoot.

Diana 34P (177 cal) is also heavy, relatively quiet and accurate at the range I've had time to check.
I won it here in the December raffle.
It was tuned by Rocker1 and is the first tuned springer I've had experience with.
I like it a whole lot.
Waiting for warmer weather to try longer range accuracy.

Benji Discovery (22 cal) is light weight, very accurate, easy to pump up to 2k lb. and with the shortest tko, quiet enough for my neighborhood.
I don't like the added length  with the tko, but compromised for the effect.
I find it hard to load with a scope, so I shoot open sights (Williams peep rear and original front sight moved to the tko).

I find a heavy rifle easier to shoot accurately, but wouldn't want to go too far in the woods with the extra weight at my age.

So, for what it's worth, I prefer PCP rifles but I wouldn't get rid of either "springer"  that I own.
They all have their time and place.
Doesn't help you much, does it.

Make a choice and then make it work.

[dcorvino]

Hey thanks for the advice IV been able to hold the trail and discovory at stores but haven't ben able to shoot them. Ill have to look around and see what I can shoot

Your welcome my friend
I am sure someone in your area can help out, the Airgun community is a friendly group.

Dave

[Barnsnelbon]

Haha that's my problem they're all good guns. As of now I am leaning more towards the discovery but that may change. If I can get a good deal on a used one with either a pump or tank I'd take it. I feel that if I did get a springer Im gonna want a pcp later on and the price difference isn't too far off airgundepot has the gun and put for 369 so it's not too hatefull a used one wound be ideal for me I would think

[north country gal]

Hi Alex

Do you have the time and/or are you willing to make the effort to learn how to shoot a springer? If the answer is yes, then $300 spent on a quality springer like the D34 or the HW95 is a good investment. Both have good iron sights out of the box, so you can add a scope, later, if budget is an issue.

If the answer is no (nothing wrong with that - everyone's situation is different), then a Disco is the better investment. Even though I am a diehard springer shooter, we do have a Disco and a couple of other PCPs. Every now and then, I do shoot the Disco, because it is one PCP  I can fill with a pump. Yes, you will need a moderator and you'll likely want to do an upgrade on the trigger, but lots and lots of aftermarket accessories for the Disco, so no problem, there. Lots of these guns around, used and/or on sale, so shop around.

[Back_Roads]

 Just saw a post in here the disco with pump from cabellas for $350.00 ish with a pump. soon as my tax refund comes in i'm getting that and the m-rod pistol.

http://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=104505.msg989124#msg989124

[Barnsnelbon]

I do have the time to practice shooting with springers. IV been shooting a good bit with the one I have now. IV looked at the. Rws 34 and hw95 I like them both the hw if I remeber was a little lower fpe than I was looking for though. My though was that rws and discovery were about the same price so why not get the one that's easier to shoot. Idk I keep going back and forth I need to get ahold of them and see how I like it befor buying it

[seitg74]

If the HW 95 has too low of ft lbs, what are you looking to shoot with it?

[Barnsnelbon]

Squirels, rabbits and maybe raccons. I may be wrong was just going off of memory

[Dairyboy]

What caliber are you looking to get?

[Barnsnelbon]

.22

[Dairyboy]

Good choice. I have a RWS 34 in .22 and love it. It shoots about 15.5 fpe if that's good enough for you. Very accurate also. Had a scope on it but now am shooting open sight and wouldn't go back to a scope. My marauder on the other hand is a completely different animal and I love that gun too. It's not a discovery but the big brother of it so giving a comparison. It's awesome because its fully adjustable and is very quiet because its shrouded. Extremely accurate also. That being said idk if I could choose between them but for pure simplicity and a challenge I love my 34. But I'd say it's good to 35 yds accuracy wise. Farther than that I'd go with the discovery.

[voldar]

When it comes about PCP vs Springer, the question should be the following: do I want to work my ^&* off to obtain a decent grouping everytime or do I want to have a easy gun to shoot ? Most airgun shooters have at least one springer in their case - best tool to learn how to shoot. The PCP is the easiest gun to shoot, very close to a rimfire carabine. Point and shoot is all you have to do and at 40-50 yards you can easily have 0.1-0.5" groups. BUT, the PCP are not cheap and you better buy a Rimfire gun instead of a PCP (IMO). A springer doesn't need anything else than a shooter while a PCP needs a scooba tank or something to fill it and a shooter. Here is a great site in which, based on your choice, it'lll show you how easy or how hard is to shoot an airgun : http://www.rateagun.com/. I have a Trail NP2 which is not one of the easiest to shoot but I love it more than my RAR (Ruger American Rimfire).

[Nomadic Pirate]

Save 100 more bucks and get a Disco & Pump

Some people can shoot springers well consistently,
Everybody can shoot PCPs well consistently.

[Barnsnelbon]

That's what I was thinking pcp seems to be the way to go