397PA

[avator]

I will say this... prepare for Popeye arm....

I've been practicing with my 1377, 880  .

lol... unless you been putting 60 pumps in them... you ain't seen nuttin yet.

[Rob112o]

I believe the only ones with the aluminum valves where the 2010-2012 392 and 397s. Look at the date on serial number first 4 digits is the date when made.

Is it the first three or first four? Mine 392pa is # 5987067xxx I thought it was a May 98 but the first four makes it somewhere in 87?

Yea its the first 4. The crosman site for dating the gun is down. It should be a letter maybe "M"05987067xxx. So it would be May of 98

[DD789]

I will say this... prepare for Popeye arm....

I've been practicing with my 1377, 880  .

lol... unless you been putting 60 pumps in them... you ain't seen nuttin yet.

 Or if you tried to put 14 pumps in a sterioded gun 

[avator]

I did some testing Sunday for another thread (sorry guys, I haven't posted results yet) I chronied 2 2014 392's and a '70 Sheridan. 4,5,6,7,8, pumps then 5 at 8 and 5 at 5 for accuracy each gun. After warm ups and struggling with poor quality on one of the 2014, and a 12 pck of Miller Lite... my 58 yr old arm coulldn't have been able to wipe my butt. It's supposed to be fun, not a workout.

[vigilandy]

I just bought a 397PA myself, and pumping is alot harder than my 2100 Crosman!   I haven't been able to chrony mine (poor weather conditions), but holds air and seems to operate properly.  I'd be interested in the numbers after seal replacement.

Not sure about accuracy either... Every few months I forget how poorly I shoot iron sites and need to be reminded.  I'm seriously considering the Ballistic Enterprise mount versus sending it to Mac1 for scope grooves to be cut.  Otherwise it'll just be a gun rack queen to sit alongside my Diana 36. 

[N6CRV]

I just bought a 397PA myself, and pumping is alot harder than my 2100 Crosman!   I haven't been able to chrony mine (poor weather conditions), but holds air and seems to operate properly.  I'd be interested in the numbers after seal replacement.

Not sure about accuracy either... Every few months I forget how poorly I shoot iron sites and need to be reminded.  I'm seriously considering the Ballistic Enterprise mount versus sending it to Mac1 for scope grooves to be cut.  Otherwise it'll just be a gun rack queen to sit alongside my Diana 36.

Looks NICE, I like the longer pump arm. Mine is shorter and missing the taper at the end. I have been happy with a Red Dot sight. Has a 2moa so nice and small dot and not heavy.

[daveb50]

I had a 1997 Benji BS that I modded the valve and sear on. I bought new parts from Crosman in case I screwed something up. Blue Streak Valve $13.99 part#397B032 
Blue Streak Sear $1.51 part#397-051. It was easier those last few pumps afterward, more like my 1968 BS. I did the 2 spring valve mod in second link and trigger sear mod in the third link below.
http://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=47480.msg446445#msg446445
http://www.network54.com/Forum/79537/message/1248052895/How+about+a+few+easy+DIY+Benji+mod%27s
http://www.airgunsmith.com/392/triggertune.htm

[longhunter]

well, it finally got here  . actually, it's more like I finally got home to see it, ( I've been gone two weeks ).
remember I said the seller said that it needed resealed? uh-uh. just needed cleaned out and oiled. I got lucky, it has the cartridge type valve. I had it up and running in about half an hour. the gun looks like it's been recently resealed. everything looked new, no hard seals. someone has definitely been inside. it had several hardware store springs in it. the only thing keeping it from pumping was a little dirt on the poppet valve. I also polished the trigger group and installed a lighter trigger spring, right off the bat. the trigger breaks clean at what I think is about 2lbs, no grittiness or drag.
I didn't have any heavy pellets handy, so, I tried it out with some cph's. I'm getting an average of 790 fps on 8 pumps. is this good, bad, or about average?? they're pretty darn accurate, once I got the sights dialed in.
overall, the gun is much nicer than I expected. the stock will eventually get refinished. it looks to have some pretty decent grain hiding under all that dark, mud brown. for now, I'm just gonna shoot it.
i'll take some pics, when I get the chance. I got handed a paint brush, when I got home. oh well, at least I won't have to stare at a bunch of freak dot wallpaper, over coffee, anymore.

[avator]

Good luck with it Scott. I almost had one myself but other junk happened. Oh well, I'll only end up with 4 new to me guns next week instead of 5. If it don't get sold I'll have it as soon as another one or 2 of my current herd sells.

[longhunter]

thanks avator. other than a lot of  little handling marks, the wood is in pretty decent shape. except where " andy" tried to write his name on it, in pen. it isn't very deep, should come out fairly easily. gonna need some paint, as well. all in due time. for now, it's gonna get shot, as is.

[avator]

I am sure it will get more than ample attention.

[longhunter]

aviator, did you see the one in the gta classifieds?? might be a good deal, for you.

[avator]

aviator, did you see the one in the gta classifieds?? might be a good deal, for you.

If you are talking about the project gun, yes I saw that. If I didn't have an unexpected spending this week I would be on it. I also have another deal pending for one. That one is on hold as well. I was looking for a truck gun. I thought I had one with the '68 copper Dan until Betty Lou got her hands in it. I'm ending up with a 3rd 140 so maybe one of those will be the new truck gun.

[longhunter]

that's the one. I'd like to jump on that one, myself, if I had the funds. kinda shot my wad, for a while, with the last one.

[bbv13]

Congratulations on getting the new shooter. Shooting 790 fps at 8 pumps sounds about right to me.

Bryan

[longhunter]

Congratulations on getting the new shooter. Shooting 790 fps at 8 pumps sounds about right to me.

Bryan

thanks. glad to hear it's up to par. I've got to pick up some heavier pellets, to try. redoing the kitchen this weekend, so, not much time for anything else. I still manage to sneak off, for a little break, now and then  .

[bbv13]

Yea, I have my share of honey do's too. Owning a home seems like a project that never ends. I sneak off and shoot a little whenever I can.

Bryan