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All Springer/NP/PCP Air Gun Discussion General => Air Gun Gate => Topic started by: Marc on September 06, 2013, 02:43:14 PM
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OK - narrowed down to these three:
Whisper in .22
Whisper Fusion IGT
Whisper CFR
I like the .22 cal in the Whisper, as it's common to the other guns in the collection so far.
Gun will be for small game and targets
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"Marc........ {:=( "Come to the Underside"........"
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Just curious.. does it have to be a GAMO ? Have you looked at any other rifles ? There's a lot of good rifles out there to choose from :)
Jeff
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Just curious.. does it have to be a GAMO ? Have you looked at any other rifles ? There's a lot of good rifles out there to choose from :)
Jeff
And....if one of those good rifles should break you will be able to buy parts to repair it your self.
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Gamo bashing coming in 3...2....1......
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Gamo bashing coming in 3...2....1......
ROTF! 1 vote for the whisper. The CFR seems to have a nice following, though.
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I like the CFR.The scope that came with it is holding up as well.
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You know - I have just seen enough good reports on Gamo from guys that actually have and shoot them. I like a lot of their designs, and lighter weights.
The Airgun Web review on the Whisper Fusion IGT looked really good - but not sure on the IGT.
I really like the CFR, but the stock puts me off - too funky in general.
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You know - I have just seen enough good reports on Gamo from guys that actually have and shoot them. I like a lot of their designs, and lighter weights.
The Airgun Web review on the Whisper Fusion IGT looked really good - but not sure on the IGT.
I really like the CFR, but the stock puts me off - too funky in general.
I like the look of the fusion and really like MY whisper it makes me focus on technique when shooting which makes shooting the others easier
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pretty good trigger on the cfr. at first the stock was not much to look at, but after using it , it is very practical. the raised cheek piece gives a great cheek weld, very nice recoil pad, and the synthetic material is quite tough. i took a fall with it and just a minor scuff on it. now if it was my tx200 i would of cried.
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I just tuned a CFR for another member on here and it was a real tack driver, the SAT trigger is nice but the GRT IV is better.....
As for the Gamo bashers and misinformers, ignore them, they are just jealous that they paid 2~3 times as much money for their guns and they don't shoot 2~3 times better....
As for the parts you can get any part you need for your Gamo, you just have to order it through a FFL dealer here in the US, that is a Gamo rule...
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CFR. Successor to the CFX which, in turn, was the BSA Superstar (Gamo owns BSA). I would not hesitate to own another CFX. The .22 is easier to load but I think the gun is better suited in terms of efficiency in .177. Either is a good choice.
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The CFR stock is very comfortable and it doesn't really look bad.
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As for the parts you can get any part you need for your Gamo, you just have to order it through a FFL dealer here in the US, that is a Gamo rule...
;D BWAHAAAHAAAA! Seriously? Or kidding?
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Springs, seals, stocks, and other items are available without FFL shipment. An actual phonecom with Gamo, will answer your concerns. Not broad-based internet forum fodder/postings. The aftermarket on the Gamo Line is long rooted, and doesn't really present problems to this forum community of members.
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I have owned the following:
Gamo Whisper Fusion
Gamo Whisper Deluxe (this was my favorite)
Gamo Varmint Hunter
Gamo Hunter Sport
Gamo Hunter
and I can tell you first hand they are not a long-term option; if you use as your main gun for practice. If you are looking for something short-term they are great rifles, but if you are looking for something longer term (maybe 10 years life) get something more durable for which parts are available. Just my opinion with over 40k of pellets though these.
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Well, That's weird. You posted this just last August....
"I did the same and refinished my stock on a Gamo Hunter Sport. I have the TX200 now, but the beat up Gamo Hunter is still my go to rifle. In this hobby this will be your first of many to come. "
What's wrong with someone getting an introductory rifle? They may lose interest, or just be a fun shooter, that wants a good time with popcans...and only fire 1,000 pellets a year?
I sure won't begrudge them. Not everyone needs a $300.00 breakbarrel air rifle.
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Well, That's weird. You posted this just last August....
"I did the same and refinished my stock on a Gamo Hunter Sport. I have the TX200 now, but the beat up Gamo Hunter is still my go to rifle. In this hobby this will be your first of many to come. "
What's wrong with someone getting an introductory rifle? They may lose interest, or just be a fun shooter, that wants a good time with popcans...and only fire 1,000 pellets a year?
I sure won't begrudge them. Not everyone needs a $300.00 breakbarrel air rifle.
The Gamo is exactly that, "Expedable", but great until it also is "off the list" :'(, and on to other more reliable long-term air rifles. ;D
Just my opinion.
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I have a big cat 1250 tuned, tarantula spring, tesla seal, hammers scope, and cdt trigger and it's a tack driver. 5 pellets @ 30 yds within a dime. I'll put my BC up against anyone's high price AG.
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I've been shooting both an IGT Silent Stalker and a tuned Big Cat, both gave GRT triggers. I have to say that I favor the shot cycle on the spring powered Big Cat more than the IGT. The IGT is just not as subtle as the tuned spring. With that said, when both guns were in stock condition the IGT was the clear winner.
If you plan on tuning a spring version I'd go that way, if you're going to leave it as-is then the IGT is a good choice.
Tom
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I have a big cat 1250 tuned, tarantula spring, tesla seal, hammers scope, and cdt trigger and it's a tack driver. 5 pellets @ 30 yds within a dime. I'll put my BC up against anyone's high price AG.
I'll take you up on that and raise you 5 pellets in that dime. ???
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I have a big cat 1250 tuned, tarantula spring, tesla seal, hammers scope, and cdt trigger and it's a tack driver. 5 pellets @ 30 yds within a dime. I'll put my BC up against anyone's high price AG.
I'll take you up on that and raise you 5 pellets in that dime. ???
50% shooter 50% rifle X2 all else being equal two shooters same skill level better rifle wins the match flip side ok shooter great rifle vs great shooter decent rifle great shooter good chance of winning
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I think most of these rifles are long term guns, as far as longevity goes. As bullit already stated, the aftermarket has all your needs covered. If you have the courage to diagnose and fix it when the spring breaks or the washers wear out, it is rewarded by the discovery of cnc machined brass barrel block washers, and springs and seals of such high quality that they may never need to be replaced again. Also as previously stated, the aftermarket adresses the triggers as well. The highly touted rws 34's price tag is up and climbing, and the economical choice on e again is to buy and tune a gamo or a chinese clone. Value aside, the number one feature of Gamo rifles that interests me most is the power to weight ratio. The weight of the whisper is comparable to that of the r7 as well as my favorite rifle, the 392. A lot of people do love to hate gamo, and they make some pretty good points with the overstated velocities and some of the qc issues, they are not made as well as they used to be. But none of the airgun manufacturers build them as good as they used too,, and all of them overstate the velocities their guns are capable of- save for Hatsan.
Edit- not everyone is trying to win a competition with their air rifles. Most of us are pretty happy to put 5 in a quarter at 20 yards. 5 in a dime at 30 is exceptional, most of us can't do that without a non-recoiling rifle and some type of rest. I used to think I was tha man with my 392 shooting about a quarter inch at ten yards until I tried the off hand 10 meter challenge and failed to keep all 20 inside an inch at the same distance. I think that a lot of us are living in a fantasy land where no one hunts with a gun at a given range that won't put ten in a quarter with 100% consistency. The truth is most people probably can't hit a quarter at thirty yards with a match rifle when the adrenaline kicks in. Most air rifles are many times more accurate than we can shoot, most $100 springers can pass the quarter test at thirty yards, most shooters can't come close.
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Ole tom cat (Al) is the one that tuned my gun and like he said it is a real tack driver here are some pictures of what is can do at 40 yard with RWS super h points. The only problem I ever had with it was it was over lubed by a company I shall not name (Gamo) and the spring broke, but that happens even with expensive guns, but other ways it has been a great gun the weight is not to heavy and not to light which makes it a great hunting rifle. If you do get the CFR make sure you get the CDT trigger it is a big game changer.
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I prefer the older guns such as the S1000. They should last as long as any. I understand that Gamo has gone to a lot of plastic. Liners in polymer barrels and plastic breech blocks would concern me for the long haul. The CFR is still made like the CFX and those should last a long time. As to expendable guns, the little Slavia's were often considered such guns but now, forty years later, they still shoot well. Two thirds the battle is taking good care of your gun.
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I have a big cat 1250 tuned, tarantula spring, tesla seal, hammers scope, and cdt trigger and it's a tack driver. 5 pellets @ 30 yds within a dime. I'll put my BC up against anyone's high price AG.
I'll take you up on that and raise you 5 pellets in that dime. ???
I'll be shooting groups of ten tomorrow, pictures to come :)
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I'll be shooting groups of ten tomorrow, pictures to come :)
Off hand right? :D
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Three things have turned me off gamo, the way overstated velocity ad's, the pig hunt ad's and their refusal to sell parts. john
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Three things have turned me off gamo, the way overstated velocity ad's, the pig hunt ad's and their refusal to sell parts. john
The Velocity Adds and Pig Hunts sell guns.....
This is a majorly false statement, They do not refuse to sell guns they just require you to go through a FFL dealer....
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;D Pellet Hunter made a very accurate statement as to the ability of a fair number shooters with sufficient practice we do ok but without adequate range time that is all we are average and the rifles and handguns we choose to shoot are capable of shooting at a much higher level than the shooter and sadly after shooting at 30 yards off the bench yesterday I include myself in that group.
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"This is a majorly false statement, They do not refuse to sell guns they just require you to go through a FFL dealer...."
A ffl is for firearms deals, I live in a state friendly to air guns and to pay a ffl 20 or 30 bucks minimum to receive an air gun part is just flat stupid. Gamos policy and ads are aimed at 16yo kids all the way and I am not one of them.
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I think we are getting a little off track here, and I am one to admit I did so as well. I think this thread was to help someone pick a Gamo. The thread can include our opinions, but I think this person has not been helped much at this point.
Having made my points earlier I would go with the Whisper Deluxe if you I had to pick. :D
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I think we are getting a little off track here, and I am one to admit I did so as well. I think this thread was to help someone pick a Gamo. The thread can include our opinions, but I think this person has not been helped much at this point.
Having made my points earlier I would go with the Whisper Deluxe if you I had to pick. :D
I like the whisper delux, also. The proportions of the stock fit me nicely and it's just a nice, lightweight rifle for the woods.
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Hey guys - I appreciate all info. So thanks to all that put in their two bits on this one.
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Natchez Shooters Supply may still have refurb Gamo 220's.They're the wood and metal Gamo's.The Chinese barrel breaks are copies of this gun.
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not sure bout the newer ones. i have a big cat that ive tuned and its a sweet little shooter. pinpoint accurate with enough power to take down squirrels cleanly. the only regrets i have with a gamo was my hunter sport with gas piston. for the same amount of money i could have gotten a 34 and had it tuned. ended up tuning it, getting it all setup nice then sold it for 1/3 of what i had in it cause thats what it was worth.
get which ever one you like best and shoot the snot out of it then fix what you dont like about it. after that it will be perfect for you. good luck and let us know what you get.
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A ffl is for firearms deals, I live in a state friendly to air guns and to pay a ffl 20 or 30 bucks minimum to receive an air gun part is just flat stupid. Gamos policy and ads are aimed at 16yo kids all the way and I am not one of them.
Amen to that first of all.
For the OP, you can find Gamo a plenty on Craigslist that are new or barely used for half the original price or better, most haven't even been broke in yet. There are tons on there, just be smart when checking them out to buy and look at and check all the important stuff like breech seal and barrel rifling. Check it over top to bottom then test shoot it and bargain! Just another option to mention.
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"This is a majorly false statement, They do not refuse to sell guns they just require you to go through a FFL dealer...."
A ffl is for firearms deals, I live in a state friendly to air guns and to pay a ffl 20 or 30 bucks minimum to receive an air gun part is just flat stupid. Gamos policy and ads are aimed at 16yo kids all the way and I am not one of them.
I live in a state that is just as friendly if not more so and I do not pay anything for a FFL Dealer to order parts for me, I pay list price for them, if he gets them cheaper and makes a markup on them then that is his business if not than I just pay for the parts and shipping.....