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All Springer/NP/PCP Air Gun Discussion General => Projectiles => Boolit and Pellet Casting => Topic started by: rsterne on January 29, 2023, 03:18:42 PM
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All three .22 cal Pellet moulds.... 17 gr. Wadcutter, 20 gr. Hunter, and 24 gr. Magnum are again in stock, although brass seems to be lagging (I think Al has a supply issue).... In addition, the 30 gr. BBT is also in stock, and the 25 gr. HP as well, so all you guys who were waiting for .22 cal airgun moulds should be good to go....
In .25 cal, there is stock on the 22 gr. Wadcutter, the 27 gr. Hunter, the 34 gr. Magnum, the 40 gr. double-ended Wadcutter, and the 60 gr. BBT....
In .257 cal, the 257420 75 gr. Boattail has some moulds available....
The 7mm 106 gr. that Scott Hull is using out to 500 M is also in stock.... first of the new BBT designs....
In addition, in .30 cal, the 46 gr. Hunter is back in stock, along with the 55 gr. HP....
All you guys that have been screaming for moulds, get 'em while they're hot!!!!
Bob
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Thanks for the heads up! I'm pretty well set until the .177 molds hit.
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Thank you! Thank you! Thank you!
I bought the .22 wadcutter after I saw your post here, last evening.
Now waiting for the .177 slugs and may I dare hope a .20 in the near future ;D
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Ordered the 4 cavity 22 was cutter I have been waiting on.
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Ordered the 4 cavity 22 was cutter I have been waiting on.
I'm really tempted myself. I just keep telling myself I don't need it. ;D
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Ordered the 4 cavity 22 was cutter I have been waiting on.
I'm really tempted myself. I just keep telling myself I don't need it. ;D
I disagree you need it. Lol
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Ordered the 4 cavity 22 was cutter I have been waiting on.
I'm really tempted myself. I just keep telling myself I don't need it. ;D
I disagree you need it. Lol
Do I? These 20 grain hunters smack like a sledgehammer and they're accurate. That's the logic I'm trying to use. ;) I'm really kinda tainted by the brass .25 wadcutter mold, I think. I'm just not a fan of it.
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My reasoning to have every mold usable in calabers I own is to have every option possible. I didn't need it but I did need to finish out my collection. Besides what kind of enabler would I be if I agreed with you lol.
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My reasoning to have every mold usable in calabers I own is to have every option possible. I didn't need it but I did need to finish out my collection. Besides what kind of enabler would I be if I agreed with you lol.
Well that makes you a professional enabler because I bought it. ;D
A 10 percent off code and my 1k discount along with your logic pushed me over the edge.
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Glad I could help and that 10% off really helps I have saved so much money once I got into the club.
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Glad I could help and that 10% off really helps I have saved so much money once I got into the club.
You can stack the 1k discount with another code too. Flt001 is the code I use.
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I will have to remember that.
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The NOE 217-17-WC is the trickiest of all NOE molds that I have to cast, I've got it down pretty good these days where I can cast about 300 of them with probably 20 rejects and it's usually the skirt.
It's got such a small sprue hole so I've found pouring a good couple of puddles on the sprue to begin with, then the lead will flow better using a Lyman Little Dipper.
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The NOE 217-17-WC is the trickiest of all NOE molds that I have to cast, I've got it down pretty good these days where I can cast about 300 of them with probably 20 rejects and it's usually the skirt.
It's got such a small sprue hole so I've found pouring a good couple of puddles on the sprue to begin with, then the lead will flow better using a Lyman Little Dipper.
I'm pretty liberal with the lead on my sprue plates when I'm casting these little pellets and slugs. It's tough to keep it hot if you don't splash a little extra.
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Eddie I always use the pressure pour method though as many know. I think the WC would probably be hard to do with a bottom pour.
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Eddie I always use the pressure pour method though as many know. I think the WC would probably be hard to do with a bottom pour.
Me too, Wayne. I finally wised up and listened to you. I splash a little extra with the ladle after I finish the pour. I don't do it on every pour but I will if my sprues are cooling too fast.
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I do every pour so I have one big cutting vs a pile of smaller ones works better for my small set up. Now that the kid that lives down stairs I might set up my work bench in the shed we shared.
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Brew Bear
PLUS +++ 2, for the 17/20 caliber molds, I hope I live long enough..........LOL
I just got the last one I needed to complete my selection for the 22/25 cals,
for now,
I goofed and bought 2 of the 250-27gr molds, instead of 1-27gr and - 1- 34gr mold,
so now I have an extra, to get rid of.
Tia,
Don
Thank you! Thank you! Thank you!
I bought the .22 wadcutter after I saw your post here, last evening.
Now waiting for the .177 slugs and may I dare hope a .20 in the near future ;D
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Don I'm wanting to get that .177 BBT mold bigtime, hopefully they'll be coming soon. I plan on shooting them mainly with my .177 DAR. I see that you have one too, I actually got a turkey with mine, it was about a 35 yard head shot for a whole lot of flopping and good eating.
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Ordered the 4 cavity 22 was cutter I have been waiting on.
I'm really tempted myself. I just keep telling myself I don't need it. ;D
Yes, you do! unless you want to wait another 2 years....
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Eddie I always use the pressure pour method though as many know. I think the WC would probably be hard to do with a bottom pour.
We'll find out how hard in a week or so when I get my mould. ;D
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Ordered the 4 cavity 22 was cutter I have been waiting on.
I'm really tempted myself. I just keep telling myself I don't need it. ;D
Yes, you do! unless you want to wait another 2 years....
LOL he bought one.
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Ordered the 4 cavity 22 was cutter I have been waiting on.
I'm really tempted myself. I just keep telling myself I don't need it. ;D
Yes, you do! unless you want to wait another 2 years....
You're late. I already bought one. :D
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Hey Guys
I am slightly confused here, ???
I am thinking about getting this 22 mold for a couple of
higher powered AG, I have.
Per the description = 217-30-FN-BJ5 4 Cavity RG4 cavity BT,
it does not state that this mold is a HP (which is what I want),
but the diagram of this bullet shows it to be a HP design?
Do I go by the description or the diagram, as I want a HP.
Tia,
Don
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Hey Guys
I am slightly confused here, ???
I am thinking about getting this 22 mold for a couple of
higher powered AG, I have.
Per the description = 217-30-FN-BJ5 4 Cavity RG4 cavity BT,
it does not state that this mold is a HP (which is what I want),
but the diagram of this bullet shows it to be a HP design?
Do I go by the description or the diagram, as I want a HP.
Tia,
Don
This is the HP. I believe it's the same one you are referring to.
https://noebulletmolds.com/site/shop/bullet-moulds/224/217-30-fn-bj5-bt/217-30-fn-bj5-rg4-cavity-bt/
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I have that mold it has options of hollow point cup point and flat nose.
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Hey Guys
I am slightly confused here, ???
I am thinking about getting this 22 mold for a couple of
higher powered AG, I have.
Per the description = 217-30-FN-BJ5 4 Cavity RG4 cavity BT,
it does not state that this mold is a HP (which is what I want),
but the diagram of this bullet shows it to be a HP design?
Do I go by the description or the diagram, as I want a HP.
Tia,
Don
I believe there are 2 versions of the bbt 30 grain slug. I ended up with the flat point by mistake when I wanted the hp slug but that's on me not looking close enough. Now it just sits on my airgun bench waiting for me to buy another.22 that has a bigger bore than the.215 my liberty has. I've just been shooting the 25 grain hp now slug or the 24 grain hunter mag. Maybe I'll end up with 1 of hammers 3 groove barrels and install it on the liberty.
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The HP pins are in the mold down on my casting table these are the CP and FP pins that come in the kit.
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Hey Guys
I am slightly confused here, ???
I am thinking about getting this 22 mold for a couple of
higher powered AG, I have.
Per the description = 217-30-FN-BJ5 4 Cavity RG4 cavity BT,
it does not state that this mold is a HP (which is what I want),
but the diagram of this bullet shows it to be a HP design?
Do I go by the description or the diagram, as I want a HP.
Tia,
Don
This is the HP. I believe it's the same one you are referring to.
https://noebulletmolds.com/site/shop/bullet-moulds/224/217-30-fn-bj5-bt/217-30-fn-bj5-rg4-cavity-bt/
That's not the HP Mold, they're already sold out by the looks of it, that was fast.
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Hey Guys
I am slightly confused here, ???
I am thinking about getting this 22 mold for a couple of
higher powered AG, I have.
Per the description = 217-30-FN-BJ5 4 Cavity RG4 cavity BT,
it does not state that this mold is a HP (which is what I want),
but the diagram of this bullet shows it to be a HP design?
Do I go by the description or the diagram, as I want a HP.
Tia,
Don
This is the HP. I believe it's the same one you are referring to.
https://noebulletmolds.com/site/shop/bullet-moulds/224/217-30-fn-bj5-bt/217-30-fn-bj5-rg4-cavity-bt/
That's not the HP Mold, they're already sold out by the looks of it, that was fast.
Its not HP only but it dose have a HP pin along with the other 2 the RG molds come with.
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Hey Guys
I am slightly confused here, ???
I am thinking about getting this 22 mold for a couple of
higher powered AG, I have.
Per the description = 217-30-FN-BJ5 4 Cavity RG4 cavity BT,
it does not state that this mold is a HP (which is what I want),
but the diagram of this bullet shows it to be a HP design?
Do I go by the description or the diagram, as I want a HP.
Tia,
Don
It does get confusing with the many options. https://noebulletmolds.com/site/product-category/bullet-moulds/224/217-30-fn-bj5-bt/
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I cast up a boatload of wad cutters this morning, these will last me probably the rest of the winter and more probably.
(https://i.imgur.com/X1OFYwA.jpg)
These are really great out of my vintage pistols and very deadly on red squirrels with my Crosman 362
Here's a 5 shot group with my Crosman 150 I did with them at 15 feet, that's a 3 cent piece covering all.
(https://i.imgur.com/CdjAxXj.jpg)
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Hey Guys
I am slightly confused here, ???
I am thinking about getting this 22 mold for a couple of
higher powered AG, I have.
Per the description = 217-30-FN-BJ5 4 Cavity RG4 cavity BT,
it does not state that this mold is a HP (which is what I want),
but the diagram of this bullet shows it to be a HP design?
Do I go by the description or the diagram, as I want a HP.
Tia,
Don
This is the HP. I believe it's the same one you are referring to.
https://noebulletmolds.com/site/shop/bullet-moulds/224/217-30-fn-bj5-bt/217-30-fn-bj5-rg4-cavity-bt/ (https://noebulletmolds.com/site/shop/bullet-moulds/224/217-30-fn-bj5-bt/217-30-fn-bj5-rg4-cavity-bt/)
That's not the HP Mold, they're already sold out by the looks of it, that was fast.
Its not HP only but it dose have a HP pin along with the other 2 the RG molds come with.
Exactly. The best of both worlds and in stock when I linked it
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I picked up the 22 hunter. I had the Mag Hunter in brass. Would have been nice to get the hunter in brass but I'm happy to get it in AL anyway.
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I picked up the 22 hunter. I had the Mag Hunter in brass. Would have been nice to get the hunter in brass but I'm happy to get it in AL anyway.
The 20 grain hunter is an awesome pellet. I think you'll like it.
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The original versions of the 217-30-FN-BJ5-BT only had 1 Lyman style HP pin, regardless of the number of cavities.... All new production are RG2 pr RG4 moulds., which come with 3 set of pins.... Now that the original Lyman style single HP pin moulds are gone, they will not be replaced.... There are still a few FN moulds available from the first run, and again, they will not be replaced, as the RG moulds do HP, CP and FN....
Bob
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I picked up the 22 hunter. I had the Mag Hunter in brass. Would have been nice to get the hunter in brass but I'm happy to get it in AL anyway.
The 20 grain hunter is an awesome pellet. I think you'll like it.
Eddie I need to cast up some more of those because they're much better than the wad cutters if I'm shooting them out in the woods, even with my c02 pistols for distance. I used almost all of mine up in the attic last year shooting them out of my Crosman 362, the Crosman really likes them a lot. The BBT's won't work out of that gun, they're way too tight a fit which leads me to believe that those guns barrels aren't made in house like all the previous barrels were on like the disco, prod etc.
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I picked up the 22 hunter. I had the Mag Hunter in brass. Would have been nice to get the hunter in brass but I'm happy to get it in AL anyway.
The 20 grain hunter is an awesome pellet. I think you'll like it.
Eddie I need to cast up some more of those because they're much better than the wad cutters if I'm shooting them out in the woods, even with my c02 pistols for distance. I used almost all of mine up in the attic last year shooting them out of my Crosman 362, the Crosman really likes them a lot. The BBT's won't work out of that gun, they're way too tight a fit which leads me to believe that those guns barrels aren't made in house like all the previous barrels were on like the disco, prod etc.
My 2019 vintage Prod shoots them as well as any factory pellet I've ever tried in it. That's a tall order too because it's one of the most accurate guns I own.
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Eddie my Prod shoots them great. Like I said the in house barrels seem to be fine for the Crosman, I think that the 362 is a China made barrel myself. I've never tried calling Crosman to ask but they might not give out that info ??? Crosman hasn't done one of their factory tour video's in years.
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A fool and his money, guys I drive trucks, very little time at home can you please post a good mold for 22, and 30 cal... The actual mold links so I can get them ordered today.... I will go through the whole post later but I don't want to miss out... I will call my old lady and get it done asap... Thanks
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Clarence....
2 cavity 20 gr. 22 cal... https://noebulletmolds.com/site/shop/bullet-moulds/224/217-20-rf-ce6-hunter-pellet/217-20-rf-ce6-2-cavity-hb-hunter/
4 cavity 20 gr. 22 cal... https://noebulletmolds.com/site/shop/bullet-moulds/224/217-20-rf-ce6-hunter-pellet/217-20-rf-ce6-4-cavity-hb-hunter/
2 cavity 24 gr. 22 cal... https://noebulletmolds.com/site/shop/bullet-moulds/224/217-24-rf-cc2-magnum-pellet/217-24-rf-cc2-2-cavity-rf-hb-magnum-hunter-pellet/
2 cavity 46 gr. 30 cal.... https://noebulletmolds.com/site/shop/bullet-moulds/308-311/300-46-rf-cc4-hunter-pellet/300-46-rf-cc4-rg2-cavity-hb/
4 cavity 46 gr. 30 cal.... https://noebulletmolds.com/site/shop/bullet-moulds/308-311/300-46-rf-cc4-hunter-pellet/300-46-rf-cc4-rg4-cavity-hb/
Which .22 cal you buy depends on the power of your gun.... Under ~40 FPE get the 20 gr.... over that get the 24 gr....
2 or 4 cavity depends on your budget and how fast you want to cast....
Bob
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I have learned that if you are going to get into casting your own ammunition, it REALLY pays off to get the 4 hole molds!
Having said that, I am watching closely for the 4 hole 22cal magnum, and both the hunter, and magnum 25 cal molds to be released.
I don't have a 25 cal rifle... YET, but am seriously thinking of getting one if I see one that I like in the classifieds.
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I would be interested in one of the 30 cal 55 grain molds but need it in .303. Can these be lapped somehow to increase a couple thousand?
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Contact Al and ask him to run a special oversize one for you the next time he restocks.... It can be done with the same tooling....
Bob
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I would be interested in one of the 30 cal 55 grain molds but need it in .303. Can these be lapped somehow to increase a couple thousand?
From what I understand .303 is the size of the 30 cal AEA Challengers too, mine shoots pellets really good but never tried any slugs in it because I couldn't find a slug mold for .303 airgun mold. I wanted the BBT at the time that I bought the gun but there weren't any in stock.
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I have one from Accurate About 54 grain .303, Number 30-050A. So far I'm getting best results resized to .302 but still needs improvement. I have the Terminator in 30 cal and accuracy is so so with .300 pellets or slugs. Purchased NSA 47.2 slugs in .303 and now I can hit a shotgun shell at 50 yds with it. Was thinking I would like to try NOE's slug that resembles what I am shooting. Think I will call and see if I can get a .0303 mold on his next batch. Pouring slugs through the Terminator is expensive.
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One big bore that I'd like to shoot would be the "Western Sidewinder"30cal, it's got full auto capability so I'd have to shoot auto on private land. Next time I talk to the DNR when I'm out at the state land I'll ask him if it would be breaking any rules for hunting on semi. If it's legal I might buy one of those guns. It's similar to the Huben but the mag is removable on it which is another big plus.