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Title: NOE .22 cal wadcutter 217-17-WC
Post by: brewbear on January 18, 2022, 11:30:39 AM
Hi all,
If you cast, or think about casting your own pellets, hear this!
There is a thread in the NOE forums started by @Wayne52- poor guy got sick of me pestering him for the mold and I apologize for it.
In any case, head on to their forum, sign up if you're not registered already, and put your name on the list. My understanding is they need at least 10 people before they make the moulds.
Title: Re: NOE .22 cal wadcutter 217-17-WC
Post by: Back_Roads on January 18, 2022, 11:42:43 AM
 IIR it is 10 for them to develop a new design with out setup cost, as with a personal custom mold.
If it is one already in production at lest 5 inquiries are needed to light the fire to make more.
 The squeaky wheels get the grease :)
Title: Re: NOE .22 cal wadcutter 217-17-WC
Post by: brewbear on January 18, 2022, 11:56:49 AM
IIR it is 10 for them to develop a new design with out setup cost, as with a personal custom mold.
If it is one already in production at lest 5 inquiries are needed to light the fire to make more.
 The squeaky wheels get the grease :)
You are correct, I only remembered the 10 request part. I just read the thread in NOE forum,  so far there's three of us: wayne, you and me. We need a few more people to join.
Title: Re: NOE .22 cal wadcutter 217-17-WC
Post by: Firewalker on January 18, 2022, 01:53:55 PM
Hi all,
If you cast, or think about casting your own pellets, hear this!
There is a thread in the NOE forums started by @Wayne52- poor guy got sick of me pestering him for the mold and I apologize for it.
In any case, head on to their forum, sign up if you're not registered already, and put your name on the list. My understanding is they need at least 10 people before they make the moulds.

I'll sign up if you post a link.  :o
Title: Re: NOE .22 cal wadcutter 217-17-WC
Post by: Wayne52 on January 18, 2022, 02:39:01 PM
Here's the link to the forum  https://noebulletmolds.com/smf/
after you join the forum add a request in this thread https://noebulletmolds.com/smf/index.php?topic=3152.0
Title: Re: NOE .22 cal wadcutter 217-17-WC
Post by: Bob Pratl on January 19, 2022, 05:32:28 AM
I just added my request to Al, a 4-cavity Aluminum.
Title: Re: NOE .22 cal wadcutter 217-17-WC
Post by: Wayne52 on January 19, 2022, 06:13:15 AM
Bob I think 4 cavity aluminum is the way to go with those wad cutters because they don't take a lot of lead and with a 4 cavity rather than two it's going to be much faster casting them.  I've pretty much got adjusting pin holders down pat these days with all the pellet/slug molds that I've adjust for casting, once you get them right you don't have to fool with them anymore after that.
Title: Re: NOE .22 cal wadcutter 217-17-WC
Post by: Bob Pratl on January 19, 2022, 06:25:43 AM
Wayne, sound good, thanks for getting the ball rolling on this mold. I hope that Al is watching.
The only 4 cavity mold that I have is a .452 brass that gets very heavy after a short time.
A 4 cavity aluminum sounds like the way to go.
Title: Re: NOE .22 cal wadcutter 217-17-WC
Post by: Wayne52 on January 19, 2022, 06:44:18 AM
Bob my 250-34-RF mold is brass too and they get very heavy however seeing how I've already got the mold I see no sense in getting another, they do get heavy though.
Title: Re: NOE .22 cal wadcutter 217-17-WC
Post by: Mallard57 on January 19, 2022, 11:43:30 AM
I got on the list for an aluminum 4 cavity mold.
Title: Re: NOE .22 cal wadcutter 217-17-WC
Post by: brewbear on January 19, 2022, 11:56:03 AM
Bob my 250-34-RF mold is brass too and they get very heavy however seeing how I've already got the mold I see no sense in getting another, they do get heavy though.
You gents with brass ba I mean moulds, I understand that brass is inherently heavier than aluminum, but don't you think heat will dissipate faster in aluminum moulds?
Title: Re: NOE .22 cal wadcutter 217-17-WC
Post by: Wayne52 on January 19, 2022, 12:09:58 PM
Brass does hold heat longer and if you're not careful you can warp a brass mold, most of my molds are brass however I've never warped one yet, my reasoning for buying aluminum is for a lighter mold that's easier to manage, I normally get brass however with a four cavity mold they get really heavy during a casting session.
Title: Re: NOE .22 cal wadcutter 217-17-WC
Post by: Spacebus on January 19, 2022, 12:31:05 PM
Registering my account now. Can someone get Al fired up about the .25 cal Magnum Hunter mold?

How long does it take to get the confirmation email?
Title: Re: NOE .22 cal wadcutter 217-17-WC
Post by: EdinGa on January 19, 2022, 12:40:36 PM
Registering my account now. Can someone get Al fired up about the .25 cal Magnum Hunter mold?

How long does it take to get the confirmation email?

Good luck with that. I got one from him that was an old inaccurate design. I waited 4 or 5 months for it to be remade and gave up. He replaced it with an aluminum 4 cavity 27 grain mold, and I can't get it to shoot worth spit either.
Title: Re: NOE .22 cal wadcutter 217-17-WC
Post by: Wayne52 on January 19, 2022, 12:41:48 PM
DJ someone who want's one will have to start a thread there, I don't want one so I won't start a thread because I've already got the mold that I want.
Title: Re: NOE .22 cal wadcutter 217-17-WC
Post by: Spacebus on January 19, 2022, 12:43:19 PM
Registering my account now. Can someone get Al fired up about the .25 cal Magnum Hunter mold?

How long does it take to get the confirmation email?

Good luck with that. I got one from him that was an old inaccurate design. I waited 4 or 5 months for it to be remade and gave up. He replaced it with an aluminum 4 cavity 27 grain mold, and I can't get it to shoot worth spit either.

Do you still have the magnum mold? I bought a .250-22-WC from Firewalker, should be here soon. My Eagle Claw so far hasn't been very picky on anything .250" dia or larger.
Title: Re: NOE .22 cal wadcutter 217-17-WC
Post by: Wayne52 on January 19, 2022, 01:06:53 PM
With wad cutters you probably won't have much luck shooting them from the Eagle Claw unless you get the speed of those wad cutter way down.  I like the wad cutters for the lower powered guns, wad cutters don't like speeds much more thant 650-700fps and are designed for closer range shooting.
Title: Re: NOE .22 cal wadcutter 217-17-WC
Post by: EdinGa on January 19, 2022, 01:08:18 PM
I do, but after I nearly lost my mind over it, Bob saw a picture I posted and pointed out it was an old design that must have been overlooked and restocked. I wouldn't give that thing away it was so horribly inaccurate.
Title: Re: NOE .22 cal wadcutter 217-17-WC
Post by: brewbear on January 19, 2022, 01:08:56 PM
With wad cutters you probably won't have much luck shooting them from the Eagle Claw unless you get the speed of those wad cutter way down.  I like the wad cutters for the lower powered guns, wad cutters don't like speeds much more thant 650-700fps and are designed for closer range shooting.
They are great in the Crosman 150! I only shot the wadcutters I bought though. My 150's like the .22 hunters  too!
Title: Re: NOE .22 cal wadcutter 217-17-WC
Post by: Spacebus on January 19, 2022, 01:10:31 PM
With wad cutters you probably won't have much luck shooting them from the Eagle Claw unless you get the speed of those wad cutter way down.  I like the wad cutters for the lower powered guns, wad cutters don't like speeds much more thant 650-700fps and are designed for closer range shooting.

The Eagle Claw has a power wheel and can turn down very low. Should have no problem keeping those pellets below 750 FPS. The mold also includes the longer pins to get the weight a bit higher. I also have the 41 grain FN BBT mold, so I have something for full power shooting as well.
Title: Re: NOE .22 cal wadcutter 217-17-WC
Post by: EdinGa on January 19, 2022, 01:13:33 PM
My .25 Diana Bandit shoots the 22gr wadcutters into one ragged hole at 15 yards. It's a great mold for low velocity. I'm planning to use them in my 362 conversion too.
Title: Re: NOE .22 cal wadcutter 217-17-WC
Post by: Wayne52 on January 19, 2022, 01:21:12 PM
Guns like what you're describing Ed are ideal for wadcutters for sure.
Title: Re: NOE .22 cal wadcutter 217-17-WC
Post by: EdinGa on January 19, 2022, 01:25:36 PM
Guns like what you're describing Ed are ideal for wadcutters for sure.

They seem to love the 500-550 fps range, and they're surprisingly accurate out to 35 or so too.
Title: Re: NOE .22 cal wadcutter 217-17-WC
Post by: Firewalker on January 19, 2022, 01:52:23 PM
I didn't want to dial the speed down to tame those wadcutters, I got a 46gr RN mold from MP that I drive as fast as Miss DAR will push them and I didn't want to dial it down until those wadcutters settled down.
Title: Re: NOE .22 cal wadcutter 217-17-WC
Post by: Spacebus on January 19, 2022, 02:36:09 PM
I didn't want to dial the speed down to tame those wadcutters, I got a 46gr RN mold from MP that I drive as fast as Miss DAR will push them and I didn't want to dial it down until those wadcutters settled down.

Lani sent me some of those cast MP RN in .250 and .252" and my Claw loved them on full power. If that one becomes available I'd like to get it as well. Does the DAR have an internal adjustment? If so I don't blame you for not wanting to turn it down. I got an NSA 43.5 almost stuck in the barrel thinking I was at max power when I was opposite, so I should be able to make those WC work.
Title: Re: NOE .22 cal wadcutter 217-17-WC
Post by: brewbear on January 19, 2022, 02:45:33 PM
Gents, if you don't mind, I think we're getting our wires crossed! The thread started out about .22 cal wadcutters, specifically the NOE mold 217-17-WC but somehow we're commenting on .25 caliber wadcutters now. I don't mind getting out in the weeds now and again, but could we possibly get back to the 22 caliber?
Title: Re: NOE .22 cal wadcutter 217-17-WC
Post by: Spacebus on January 19, 2022, 02:50:51 PM
Gents, if you don't mind, I think we're getting our wires crossed! The thread started out about .22 cal wadcutters, specifically the NOE mold 217-17-WC but somehow we're commenting on .25 caliber wadcutters now. I don't mind getting out in the weeds now and again, but could we possibly get back to the 22 caliber?

Sorry, I brought up the other mold, I just want all the wadcutters. I did post on the NOE thread that I do want one.
Title: Re: NOE .22 cal wadcutter 217-17-WC
Post by: brewbear on January 19, 2022, 02:52:29 PM
So, do we have at least five people wanting the 217-17-WC mould posted on the NOE forum? If you want one and haven't put your name on their forum, please do so.
If you want a different caliber wadcutter that was previously produced, start a thread in the NOE forum requesting that mould. You'll need at least five (ten would be better I think) people requesting it in that thread for NOE to consider making it.
Title: Re: NOE .22 cal wadcutter 217-17-WC
Post by: brewbear on January 19, 2022, 02:53:51 PM
Gents, if you don't mind, I think we're getting our wires crossed! The thread started out about .22 cal wadcutters, specifically the NOE mold 217-17-WC but somehow we're commenting on .25 caliber wadcutters now. I don't mind getting out in the weeds now and again, but could we possibly get back to the 22 caliber?

Sorry, I brought up the other mold, I just want all the wadcutters. I did post on the NOE thread that I do want one.
No biggie, besides, stepping out in the weeds is how you get the rabbits jumping!
Title: Re: NOE .22 cal wadcutter 217-17-WC
Post by: Firewalker on January 19, 2022, 02:57:35 PM
Gents, if you don't mind, I think we're getting our wires crossed! The thread started out about .22 cal wadcutters, specifically the NOE mold 217-17-WC but somehow we're commenting on .25 caliber wadcutters now. I don't mind getting out in the weeds now and again, but could we possibly get back to the 22 caliber?

Sorry, I brought up the other mold, I just want all the wadcutters. I did post on the NOE thread that I do want one.
No biggie, besides, stepping out in the weeds is how you get the rabbits jumping!

Sorry... yes, I am waiting to log in and add my request when I get back home.
Title: Re: NOE .22 cal wadcutter 217-17-WC
Post by: EdinGa on January 19, 2022, 03:18:19 PM
I'm pretty much done with NOE pellet molds. I would be interested in a 22 slug mold though.
Title: Re: NOE .22 cal wadcutter 217-17-WC
Post by: brewbear on January 19, 2022, 03:25:18 PM
I'm pretty much done with NOE pellet molds. I would be interested in a 22 slug mold though.
Here I am going in the weeds.... look at MP moulds, they have a 5.52 mm and a 5.55 mm slug mould.
Title: Re: NOE .22 cal wadcutter 217-17-WC
Post by: Firewalker on January 19, 2022, 03:55:08 PM
I'm pretty much done with NOE pellet molds. I would be interested in a 22 slug mold though.

Me too but I've never seen the .217 mold available on their site. I just bought the 25 caliber version yesterday, I'm hoping that one will shoot well oh, we'll see when it arrives.
Title: Re: NOE .22 cal wadcutter 217-17-WC
Post by: brewbear on February 06, 2022, 06:29:37 PM
Good news is we have eight people wanting the .22 wadcutter that posted in the NOE forum. It would be nice to have at least two more folks requesting it for a nice, round 10 requests.... I hope Al will get on it soon!
Title: Re: NOE .22 cal wadcutter 217-17-WC
Post by: Spacebus on February 28, 2022, 08:21:42 PM
I saw there was some activity on the NOE thread in the last few weeks. Hopefully this means we might see some more molds made!
Title: Re: NOE .22 cal wadcutter 217-17-WC
Post by: brewbear on February 28, 2022, 08:24:17 PM
I saw there was some activity on the NOE thread in the last few weeks. Hopefully this means we might see some more molds made!
From your mouth to Al's ear!!! I'm still stalking their website almost daily, just hoping....
Title: Re: NOE .22 cal wadcutter 217-17-WC
Post by: EdinGa on February 28, 2022, 08:27:20 PM
I saw there was some activity on the NOE thread in the last few weeks. Hopefully this means we might see some more molds made!
From your mouth to Al's ear!!! I'm still stalking their website almost daily, just hoping....


I had given up on NOE pellet molds until I got this .25 barrel for my 362. Now I'm wondering if a 22 mold would be good for my other 362.
Title: Re: NOE .22 cal wadcutter 217-17-WC
Post by: superchikn on February 28, 2022, 08:28:34 PM
I saw there was some activity on the NOE thread in the last few weeks. Hopefully this means we might see some more molds made!
From your mouth to Al's ear!!! I'm still stalking their website almost daily, just hoping....


I believe I was #9!
Title: Re: NOE .22 cal wadcutter 217-17-WC
Post by: Insanity on February 28, 2022, 10:49:30 PM
I havent looked in a few days.
Title: Re: NOE .22 cal wadcutter 217-17-WC
Post by: brewbear on February 28, 2022, 11:02:37 PM
I havent looked in a few days.
I haven't looked in a few hours :(
Title: Re: NOE .22 cal wadcutter 217-17-WC
Post by: Bob Pratl on March 01, 2022, 05:02:20 AM
I havent looked in a few days.
I haven't looked in a few hours :(

It looks like this is going to be the same as the Cabbage Kids fiasco, if you are old enough to
remember it.
Title: Re: NOE .22 cal wadcutter 217-17-WC
Post by: brewbear on October 18, 2022, 07:36:19 PM
Hi all! Just took a look at the NOE forum and it seems there was a misunderstanding in our wants!!!! It was assumed that since most names on the .22 wadcutter list were also on the list for the new design slugs (yet to be produced) we didn't want the wadcutter anymore.
SO... if you still want the .22 wadcutter mold, please head back to the NOE forum and tell them you want this mold   https://noebulletmolds.com/smf/index.php?topic=3152.msg26193#msg26193