Vote for your Favorite sub $100 springer scope!

[Skinard88]

All I have to say is, Man I hope my D34 is as well built as your D36. I have owned my 34 for 2 years so in 24 years  I will most likely be dead and my 34 will still be shooting. that's kind of cool. Happy Shooting

[jungleexplorer]

Here is a follow up to this thread.  The Optisan Cobra gave up the ghost today.  I would say I put somewhere around 1000 pellets through it.  Once again, my 36 has proven that they have not built the scope that can handle it yet. Good thing this optisan has a lifetime warranty.  Well, let me see if that is true before I get all my hopes up.  Will Optisan replace it?  We will see!

[Subway]

I bought a task 3-9 and have it on my remaining vantage 1200 with great success at 35$ it isn't ao but by golly is it "shock proof

[jungleexplorer]

My 36 has destroyed more a couple "Shockproof" Tasco scopes. Not to mention some Bushnells, Simmons and Leipers UTG.  Most did not last 100 pellets.

[Methuselah]

My 36 has destroyed more a couple "Shockproof" Tasco scopes. Not to mention some Bushnells, Simmons and Leipers UTG.  Most did not last 100 pellets.

Sounds like the shot cycle is hard on the scopes.  I won't say you need a tune, or that you would see a performance increase if you did, but I can tell you an airgun is all about the designed timing of the piston cycle ending as close as possible to a fast end without slamming at the end of that cycle.  If it's a leather seal maybe it could use a new one, or perhaps selecting another pellet that seals better might still be accurate, especially in the hands of an expert shooter (which undoubtedly you are judging just by the groups even if someone fails to read the thread).

I'm not saying the piston is slamming, but I would imagine if it came to rest at the end of the shot cycle a hair slower the FPS would not suffer tremendously, and your scopes might just live longer?

Just my $.02 

[mobilehomer]

There has to be something wrong with either your rifle or your style. I have 2 NP2s, a Bushnell on the Trail and a UTG 4-16X44 on the Steel Eagle. The trail has over 10,000 through it - NO scope problems. The UTG only has about 2000 on it, but no problems. Both guns are 21 fpe.

[ev-in-az]

Hey Vector, I see your in Texas, I grew up in Tx. and miss it very much. I just came in from the wind 25-45mph winds today, just shot some nice 1' groups with my D34. I enjoy shooting in the wind, lots of fun. I hope you find a good sub $100 scope. when you do be sure to let us know. I know I would like a scope in that size and price for my HW30. good luck and happy shooting.

I wait until the wind is at least 60 mph then I know I can shoot 1/4 inch groups at 85 yds

Your input is less than useful. If snarky comments are all you have to offer please stop wasting space here. I'd like to see your groups at thirty yards in the wind.

[ev-in-az]

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[jungleexplorer]

My 36 has destroyed more a couple "Shockproof" Tasco scopes. Not to mention some Bushnells, Simmons and Leipers UTG.  Most did not last 100 pellets.

Sounds like the shot cycle is hard on the scopes.  I won't say you need a tune, or that you would see a performance increase if you did, but I can tell you an airgun is all about the designed timing of the piston cycle ending as close as possible to a fast end without slamming at the end of that cycle.  If it's a leather seal maybe it could use a new one, or perhaps selecting another pellet that seals better might still be accurate, especially in the hands of an expert shooter (which undoubtedly you are judging just by the groups even if someone fails to read the thread).

I'm not saying the piston is slamming, but I would imagine if it came to rest at the end of the shot cycle a hair slower the FPS would not suffer tremendously, and your scopes might just live longer?

Just my $.02

I agree.  Something has to be not right with it.  It just such a sweet shooting gun like it is.   I am torn.  Everything else says it is fine, but it breaks scopes, so something must be wrong.  What to do?

[Bryan Heimann]

My 36 has destroyed more a couple "Shockproof" Tasco scopes. Not to mention some Bushnells, Simmons and Leipers UTG.  Most did not last 100 pellets.

Sounds like the shot cycle is hard on the scopes.  I won't say you need a tune, or that you would see a performance increase if you did, but I can tell you an airgun is all about the designed timing of the piston cycle ending as close as possible to a fast end without slamming at the end of that cycle.  If it's a leather seal maybe it could use a new one, or perhaps selecting another pellet that seals better might still be accurate, especially in the hands of an expert shooter (which undoubtedly you are judging just by the groups even if someone fails to read the thread).

I'm not saying the piston is slamming, but I would imagine if it came to rest at the end of the shot cycle a hair slower the FPS would not suffer tremendously, and your scopes might just live longer?

Just my $.02

I agree.  Something has to be not right with it.  It just such a sweet shooting gun like it is.   I am torn.  Everything else says it is fine, but it breaks scopes, so something must be wrong.  What to do?

Slap one of them broken scopes back on there and call up the best springer shooter you know.  Let him give her a go.  So far it has broken more than a couple shockproof Tasco scopes-  that is at least three.  Not to mention, some bushnells, simmons, and leapers/UTG.  That is more than three more, for more than six scopes broken by this beast.  I hate to tell you brother, but I think the nut behind the trigger is loose.  That is an expression, just to be clear.  Especially on a gun professed to be such a smooth shooter.   My luck hasn't been near as bad on many guns that are known for breaking scopes.

[jungleexplorer]

Slap one of them broken scopes back on there and call up the best springer shooter you know.  Let him give her a go.  So far it has broken more than a couple shockproof Tasco scopes-  that is at least three.  Not to mention, some bushnells, simmons, and leapers/UTG.  That is more than three more, for more than six scopes broken by this beast.  I hate to tell you brother, but I think the nut behind the trigger is loose.  That is an expression, just to be clear.  Especially on a gun professed to be such a smooth shooter.   My luck hasn't been near as bad on many guns that are known for breaking scopes.

LOL!

[Methuselah]

My 36 has destroyed more a couple "Shockproof" Tasco scopes. Not to mention some Bushnells, Simmons and Leipers UTG.  Most did not last 100 pellets.

Sounds like the shot cycle is hard on the scopes.  I won't say you need a tune, or that you would see a performance increase if you did, but I can tell you an airgun is all about the designed timing of the piston cycle ending as close as possible to a fast end without slamming at the end of that cycle.  If it's a leather seal maybe it could use a new one, or perhaps selecting another pellet that seals better might still be accurate, especially in the hands of an expert shooter (which undoubtedly you are judging just by the groups even if someone fails to read the thread).

I'm not saying the piston is slamming, but I would imagine if it came to rest at the end of the shot cycle a hair slower the FPS would not suffer tremendously, and your scopes might just live longer?

Just my $.02

I agree.  Something has to be not right with it.  It just such a sweet shooting gun like it is.   I am torn.  Everything else says it is fine, but it breaks scopes, so something must be wrong.  What to do?

Slap one of them broken scopes back on there and call up the best springer shooter you know.  Let him give her a go.  So far it has broken more than a couple shockproof Tasco scopes-  that is at least three.  Not to mention, some bushnells, simmons, and leapers/UTG.  That is more than three more, for more than six scopes broken by this beast.  I hate to tell you brother, but I think the nut behind the trigger is loose.  That is an expression, just to be clear.  Especially on a gun professed to be such a smooth shooter.   My luck hasn't been near as bad on many guns that are known for breaking scopes.

Bryan, we had a guy in basic training hold down an m16 on full auto and plaster the target.  The rest of us were lucky to keep 2 or 3 in the same direction!

Look at his groups, if anything he is too right 

I think shot cycle ending too abruptly - better seal is needed.  Where, I have no clue, thicker pellet skirt, larger diameter pellet (talking thousandths), or slow the piston a hair (new seal).  Never thought I'd say it, but groups are too good to blame the shooter 

One last idea though, why not consider a bullet proof scope?  I hear the SWFA are pretty much indestructible...

[mista meener]

Hey Vector, I see your in Texas, I grew up in Tx. and miss it very much. I just came in from the wind 25-45mph winds today, just shot some nice 1' groups with my D34. I enjoy shooting in the wind, lots of fun. I hope you find a good sub $100 scope. when you do be sure to let us know. I know I would like a scope in that size and price for my HW30. good luck and happy shooting.

I wait until the wind is at least 60 mph then I know I can shoot 1/4 inch groups at 85 yds

Your input is less than useful. If snarky comments are all you have to offer please stop wasting space here. I'd like to see your groups at thirty yards in the wind.

you had to bring up what I said 6 months ago?? why don't you mind your own business. I am sick of a few guys that make statements that are not true

[Longhair]

I had a similar problem with a CenterPoint. Zero it one day, let it sit overnight, and the next day it would shoot 4" right. Re-zero it and let it sit overnight, and the next day it would shoot 4" left. Re-zeroed again and after another overnight it was back to shooting right. It was as if something was gummed/sticking inside enough that the adjusters would have to load up enough to move it, and it would be fine for that session, but with an overnight rest they would keep moving it.
In my case it had nothing to do with recoil damaging anything. I replaced that one with a Barska and had no further issue. Now I'm having a similar issue with an AIM 3-9, so I have a UTG on the way to see if it rectifies the problem. I don't relish the idea of having to spend as much or more on a scope as I have in my gun, but I will if that's what it comes to. I need day-to-day consistency for hunting, and at my age I hate wasting time and lead.

[Underdog]

Geez. Reading these threads is discouraging.
Even scopes that ARE rated for airguns get destroyed....

What's a scope newbie to do?

[jungleexplorer]

I need day-to-day consistency for hunting, and at my age I hate wasting time and lead.

You nailed my sentiments on the head with this statement.  I am not a person who is in to competition shooting and is willing to spend thousands to get a tighter group.  What I need and demand is a dependable gun that hits what I am aiming at.  As a hunter you understand the difference in missing a shot at a piece of paper and missing a shot on an animal after hours of stealth stalking and waiting. If you miss a shot on a paper target, it's no big deal.  But if you have spent 5 hours traipsing through hot woods, getting scraped by tree branches and bit by bugs, and then miss the shot on the only animal you saw that day! That's a whole different world of frustration, bordering on rage.  And then to find out the reason you missed was because your scope broke?  That's when start having visions of taking a hammer and beating the scope to bits.  People who only shoot at paper, do not understand that level of frustration, or why hunters demand total dependency out of their guns.