Woods Walker Prod arrived today (Review & Testing)

[William]

Ordered a Woods Walker Marauder Pistol Monday and got it today.

My first impression is, absolutely perfect, this is a sweet little .22 cal for sure. I ordered the package deal from Walmart with CenterPoint P2 Series 16x50mm Binoculars and CenterPoint 1x25 Tactical Scope (I believe thats the one). Anyway, I never expected such a nice setup, the gun is light weight and solid as a rock, its a dream to hold in your hands! The scope is great for probably 25 yards max if you want to stack pellets, but after that the lighted dots are very large (would cover a whole squirrels head at 30 yards easily) but it is a good little scope for close range thats for sure.

I shot groups with it straight out of the box at 15 yards and it will stack pellets with no problem, I did shoot some at 30 yards but the lighted cross hair dots cover to much area, but I still got a 1/2" group from sand bags with the rear stock on it. I can only imagine what it will do with a good 3-9x scope on it 

http://www.walmart.com/ip/Benjamin-Woods-Walker-22Cal-Pcp-Small-Game-Bundle/36463956

I am telling you if you dont own one of these Prods you don't know what your missing! So save up and get one!
Oh, and the binoculars are really good quallity for what they are, Crystal clear and powerful, they also feel really well built.

I did have just enough time to shoot 8 shots of 15.9 JSB's over the Chronograph from about 2600 PSI down to 2000 PSI and they all shot in the 640 to 645 FPS range. I will do a full string this weekend with JSB 15.9 and Crossman 14.3 grain to see how it all stacks up. I will also shoot some group shots with each at around 20 to 25 yards with the 1x scope and I may put on a 3-9x and see what it will do farther out!

Don't let this thing fool you it does pack a wallop for its size thats for sure.

My likes are:
1. Accurate straight out of the box.
2. Powerful for a Pistol. 645 FPS 15.9 grain JSB
3. Trigger is perfect, light but not to light out of the box.
4. Lite weight and easy to handle.
5. About 30 usable shots with a 2900 PSI fill out of the box. Probably after a little more power tune 24 shots will be what I get!
6. Very Quiet
7. Hangs on my bedroom door knob perfectly with the carbine stock attached lol

My Dislikes:
1. Check rest needs to be higher (which is an easy fix).
2. Stock did move a little after installing, but a tiny piece of foam tape fixed that with no problem.

Below is some pics of groups and of the gun.

Those groups are the First Fill up and no refills as well the First 20 shots out of this gun and no barrel cleaning, I shot these groups at 15 yards while i was sighting the scope in. I used 15.9 grain JSB's loaded in the magazine.

William

[Sfttailrdr46]

Very nice I may have to add a .22 P-Rod to my want list

[William]

Very nice I may have to add a .22 P-Rod to my want list

I tell you I was a little afraid of what it was really like until I got it, I tell you when I pulled it out of the box I almost cried it was so sweet! Then the very first 5 shots at 15 yards stacked pellets, you cannot ask for any better, I am in love, I see my .22 pellet funds are going to dwindle fast lol.

If you put a good sharp scope on this thing and give it a little bit of a power tune I bet it will out shoot the best rifles at 35 yards with no problem!
      

You guys think I just kidding, but I'm not, I just cannot believe how nice this is, if they made the Marauder rifle lighter and a little bit smaller and put the quality into it like they did this little pistol, they would not be able to make the Rifle fast enough!

William

[gnef]

Those are some great results with your PRod!

Mine did not come that accurate out of the box, and I haven't spent too much time to fine tune it yet. My chrony strings were not as consistent as yours either, if I remember correctly. Maybe it is time to put more effort into tuning my PRod!

[William]

Those are some great results with your PRod!

Mine did not come that accurate out of the box, and I haven't spent too much time to fine tune it yet. My chrony strings were not as consistent as yours either, if I remember correctly. Maybe it is time to put more effort into tuning my PRod!

If I were you I would get it out and spend time with it, I really was surprised, at first when I shot the first shot it was about 6" left and a couple inches high, then I fired the second and third shots, I swear it was shotgunning and i was missing the target until I took the last couple shots of the 5 shot group and walked up and looked, stacking pellets out of the box!  I really could not believe what I was seeing.

I think that after I chrony it, it will be about 24 good shots, if not 16 will suite me just fine for squirrel hunting. And to think last year I was hunting them with my 9mm Cricket lol

Get that thing out and check it over good and see what you can do, you know the potential is there, maybe needs a little hammer buffing or something and check the end of the barrel and make sure the crown is ok. Well you know drill and I know it has to be a simple fix. I did here they like copper coated pellets as well as the Poly Mags and the long poly mags fit into the Prod Mag.

Good luck and let us know if you need anything...

William

[William]

Ok, I got home in time to shoot 2 shot strings with 15.9 JSB and 14.33 CHP's.

These shot strings are factory settings straight out of the box.... 

Woods Walker Prod .22 cal. 12" choked barrel, 65cc tank volume
3000 PSI FIll               2900 PSI Fill (should have been 3000 PSI Fill, I think)
  JSB 15.9                      CHP 14.3

  1.  631   3000 PSI       1.  668   2900 PSI
  2.  633                         2.  661
  3.  632                         3.  665
  4.  633                         4.  671
  5.  631                         5.  675
  6.  640                         6.  675
  7.  639                         7.  678
  8.  640    2700 PSI      8.  673   2600 PSI
  9.  641                         9.  680
10.  647                       10.  681
11.  646                       11.  679
12.  648   2500 PSI     12.  679   2400 PSI
13.  645                       13.  680
14.  651                       14.  678
15.  651                       15.  678
16.  653   2400 PSI      16.  681
17.  652                       17.  680
18.  652                       18.  676   2200 PSI
19.  652   2200 PSI      19.  674
20.  648                       20.  673
21.  647                       21.  673
22.  646                       22.  661
23.  645                       23.  661   2000 PSI
24.  642   2000 PSI     24.  658
25.  637                       25.  640
26.  630                       26.  624
27.  628   1800 PSI      27.  622
28.  622                        28.  622
29.  618                        29.  608
30.  609                        30.  600   1500 PSI
31.  604             
32.  597  1500 PSI

I can get 24 shots (3 full clips) out of either pellet.
I don't see anything that needs to be tuned as far as I am concerned, unless I want it shooting at 700 FPS

William

[Geoff]

looks very nice.

I would start with the JSB's for the better ES, though for hunting it wouldn't really make a big difference.

whichever one shot most accurately would win out.

[PBguns]

Congrats on the prod! They are fun (one of my favorite). Mine didn't arrive and shoot like that out of the box either. But with a little work and a deep clean now it's putting out some nice tight groups. Mine favors crosman premiers lubed w/krytech.

[William]

Congrats on the prod! They are fun (one of my favorite). Mine didn't arrive and shoot like that out of the box either. But with a little work and a deep clean now it's putting out some nice tight groups. Mine favors crosman premiers lubed w/krytech.

I couldn't believe it shot as good as it did out of the box, almost like someone tuned it before they sent it to me. I have only grouped the JSB 15.9 grain so far, maybe tomorrow evening I can group the CPHP's. Its nice to grab something lite weight and accurate to shoot that's for sure. Funny thing is, is when you go to fill that little air tube up all you do is crack the valve on the Scuba tank and its full in a second! I guess I got lucky on the tuned out of the box deal! My .25 cal. Mrod I had was almost the same way, it would shoot pellets in the same hole at 25 yards after I adjusted the fill pressure a little. I do think I will be shooting the Prod way more than my big bores or my Disco's, of course the Discos are fun too!

Have you hunted with your Prod any or thinned out any pests with it?

Wiliam

[PBguns]

Congrats on the prod! They are fun (one of my favorite). Mine didn't arrive and shoot like that out of the box either. But with a little work and a deep clean now it's putting out some nice tight groups. Mine favors crosman premiers lubed w/krytech.

 
I couldn't believe it shot as good as it did out of the box, almost like someone tuned it before they sent it to me. I have only grouped the JSB 15.9 grain so far, maybe tomorrow evening I can group the CPHP's. Its nice to grab something lite weight and accurate to shoot that's for sure. Funny thing is, is when you go to fill that little air tube up all you do is crack the valve on the Scuba tank and its full in a second! I guess I got lucky on the tuned out of the box deal! My .25 cal. Mrod I had was almost the same way, it would shoot pellets in the same hole at 25 yards after I adjusted the fill pressure a little. I do think I will be shooting the Prod way more than my big bores or my Disco's, of course the Discos are fun too!

Have you hunted with your Prod any or thinned out any pests with it?

Wiliam

I agree with the prod being a "go to". It's definitely the first I grab for backyard pesting (w/ an LDC it's by far the stealthiest AG I have).
Yeah they do fill instantly w/ that small tube! I'm thinking of going double tube on mine and hiding it in the forearm.
Mine has been busy swatting down GS and hosps in the backyard. Largest was dispatching an opossum @ 23yd. I have mine tuned for a lower pressure fill.
Still working at squeezing a couple more shots out of it....but I want to keep it right around its current FPS (keeps it nice and quiet).
Current strings for me:

[ztirffritz]

According to the specs on PA's site it's a 2900 PSI fill limit.

[FuzzyGrub]

According to the specs on PA's site it's a 2900 PSI fill limit.

FWIW: All Prods and sister 1720T's are a 3000psi fill, as marked on the left side of the breech.  PA made a typo or copied bad literature from crosman.


Prods are allot of fun and yes can take allot of pests.  Mine are usually tuned to at least 16fpe, and get 24 shots using a BSB.  At that power it does need some help with being quiet, but even with a LDC it is a nice short package. 

As you have found, the red dot is only good for short distances, such as pistol use.  In carbine format, get a scope, such as 2-7x32AO or 3-9x40AO.  Do not overkill it with a big, heavy scope.   Make or buy a comb/cheek riser for the crosman skeleton stock. 

The most important thing is, shoot it and have fun!   

[PBguns]

According to the specs on PA's site it's a 2900 PSI fill limit.

FWIW: All Prods and sister 1720T's are a 3000psi fill, as marked on the left side of the breech.  PA made a typo or copied bad literature from crosman.


Prods are allot of fun and yes can take allot of pests.  Mine are usually tuned to at least 16fpe, and get 24 shots using a BSB.  At that power it does need some help with being quiet, but even with a LDC it is a nice short package. 

As you have found, the red dot is only good for short distances, such as pistol use. In carbine format, get a scope, such as 2-7x32AO or 3-9x40AO.  Do not overkill it with a big, heavy scope.   Make or buy a comb/cheek riser for the crosman skeleton stock. 

The most important thing is, shoot it and have fun!   

That larger objective (50mm-56mm) lets in much more light than a 32mm or 40mm. As far as weight my 56mm weighs only 6oz more than  3-9x40. That extra 6oz isn't squat compared to the difference in light gathering or zoom for that matter. (I also run a night vision add on or sometimes a scope cam, so that extra light is needed). Its all about application as is just about everything else in this hobby. Im not saying thats what the OP should get. But for me it works perfect. I have mounted at least 8 different optics....and that size preformed perfect on my prod. I like the zoom even at even the shorter yardages....... Surgical.
I have a mrod that I will conserve weight on....(not the prod) its pretty anemic to start with. Little weight feels good on it. IMO

[brewbean]

Prod is one of my favorites as well. Mine came shooting just like yours right out of the box. I was amazed! With the stock attached and a Bug Buster scope, it is my gun of choice for the Starling targets in my backyard, shooting from the bedroom window. It is very, very light - so nice to walk around with in the woods . I would have to recommend it as my first PCP choice for someone starting out.

[gta-ken]

According to the specs on PA's site it's a 2900 PSI fill limit.

FWIW: All Prods and sister 1720T's are a 3000psi fill, as marked on the left side of the breech.  PA made a typo or copied bad literature from crosman.


Prods are allot of fun and yes can take allot of pests.  Mine are usually tuned to at least 16fpe, and get 24 shots using a BSB.  At that power it does need some help with being quiet, but even with a LDC it is a nice short package. 

As you have found, the red dot is only good for short distances, such as pistol use.  In carbine format, get a scope, such as 2-7x32AO or 3-9x40AO.  Do not overkill it with a big, heavy scope.   Make or buy a comb/cheek riser for the crosman skeleton stock. 

The most important thing is, shoot it and have fun! 

Where can a comb/cheek riser be purchased for the Crosman skeleton stock?  How much does it cost?  Is it easy to install without cutting or drilling anything?

[msurf]

Got my Prod this week too, and must say it is super accurate right out of the box at 15 yards.  I have tried a plethora of pellets and all have been accurate.  That may change as I test out further. 
Here is about 40- 50  rounds...out of the box

[William]

OK more testing today, shot a lot of pellets through the Prod.
Already ran these pellets through the Chronograph as noted above.

Lets start with the Bad..... hates all JSB 15.9 and JSB 18.1 beyond 20 yards, at 30 yards they shoot 2"+ inches low and scatter to 2" groups.
Does not like the 25.39 grain JSB's at any distance.

Now the good.... Love's 14.3 Crosman Premier Hollow Points at any distance. Will shoot 3/8" groups all day long at 30 yards.
The POI is dead nuts on at 20 yards and at 30 yards,  I zeroed it in at 30 yards. So no hold over needed out to about 35 yards for a 1" target bull.

Here is my thoughts on the JSB's... they do not like flying as slow as a turtle walks. All these shoot very well out of my other guns from 750 FPS and up to 940 FPS.

This Prod shoots the CPHP's at 660 to 680 FPS just fine. Perfect I should say 
If I get some JSB Match Diabolo Exact Jumbo RS .22 Cal, 13.43 Grains, Domed pellets the FPS would be up and I bet they will shoot really good, but that is just a guess. I will order some and find out!

My 30 yard shots grouped better than my 20 yard shot groups, because I have a NON-Adjustable AO 3-9 x 44mm Scope on it and I think this scope Objective "if I am not mistaken" is set factory at 30 yards. So at 20 yards on 9x the croshairs have a tendency to move a good bit.

I wand to get a BSA 2-7x32 Edge Pistol Scope, Duplex Reticle, 1/4 MOA, 1" Tube, they have one on PA.
https://www.pyramydair.com/product/bsa-2-7x32-edge-pistol-scope-duplex-reticle-1-4-moa-1-tube?a=4404
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Pistol scope
2-7x magnification
32mm objective lens
1" tube
1/4 MOA (1/4" click value @ 100 yds)
Duplex reticle
50 yds parallax setting
60 ft to 16 ft field of view @ 100 yds
12" to 20" eye relief
15.07mm to 5.23mm exit pupil
10.50 oz.
12" long
Includes lens caps
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So what do you think would be a good scope for my Prod?
Actually I think I need one with Adjustable Objective!!!
The Rifle version of the above scope has Adjustable Objective to set the Parallax.

Shot group Pics below...
Updated.. went out and did a complete fast shooting 32 shot group at 20 yards... with CPHP's.
William

[brewbean]

Mine was shooting consistent 1/2" inch groups at 35 yards with JSB 18.1 gr. UNTIL i ran out of that particular tin. The next tin was all over the place.

One other note: Never use a cleaning ROD in that barrel! My brother in law double loaded pellets and I caught him before he shot. I GENTLY used a .22 cal cleaning rod to push the pellets out of the breech, which somehow damaged the barrel enough to turn my 1/2" groups into 3" groups with the same Crosman Premiers. After fiddling with the thing for a week I ended up ordering a new barrel.

[William]

Mine was shooting consistent 1/2" inch groups at 35 yards with JSB 18.1 gr. UNTIL i ran out of that particular tin. The next tin was all over the place.

One other note: Never use a cleaning ROD in that barrel! My brother in law double loaded pellets and I caught him before he shot. I GENTLY used a .22 cal cleaning rod to push the pellets out of the breech, which somehow damaged the barrel enough to turn my 1/2" groups into 3" groups with the same Crosman Premiers. After fiddling with the thing for a week I ended up ordering a new barrel.

Was the cleaning rod metal or aluminum?
If maybe it was metal and you nicked the inside of the barrel I dont see no reason why you coldn't polish it out and be ok! that is weird that it would do that, most of the time you can just shoot 2 or even 3 pellets at once if you double load, I do it all the time.

One more question, is you Prod barrel a Crosman or is it a Walther barrel?

William

[ancient1one]

William budsgunshop has a Hawke Varmint 6-24x44($137) would be my 1st recommendation for a light weight scope. My 2nd choice would be the UTG 30mm Swat Compact 3-12x44 SF for $145 on Amazon for $145.