.177 BSA Buccaneer SE is on its way, any owners or Gammo Coyote owners...

[K.O.]

any accuracy reports... hammer forged barrel...

http://bsaguns.co.uk/air-rifles/pcp-airguns/Buccaneer-SE.aspx

This will probably test a few other barrels...after a while...


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[BigTinBoat]

any accuracy reports... hammer forged barrel...

http://bsaguns.co.uk/air-rifles/pcp-airguns/Buccaneer-SE.aspx

This will probably test a few other barrels...after a while...

I think it's exactly like the coyote, other then the stock. I was really hard pressed to not press the add to cart button on Amazon last night. My next rifle will be a BSA or a Daystate and I did not want to be disappointed. I've been researching them a bit and those with "accuracy" issue tend to put the blame on the barrel band. The other BSA's don't use bands but apparently because the Buc and Coyote use that Gasmo trigger they also use a different breech that "needs" the band. Good luck, let up know how it works out.

[Mod90]

It's just a Coyote in a nicer stock with BSA stamped on the breech.

[vigilandy]

It's just a Coyote in a nicer stock with BSA stamped on the breech.

I was misled by the Amazon picture!  It doesn't show a barrel band and the Coyote pic has one.  I tried to cancel but it was too late.  May have to return it.... 

[Mod90]

May very well not.
BSA barrels love being free floated for accuracy. Before you send it back you should at least see how well it shoots

[vigilandy]

May very well not.
BSA barrels love being free floated for accuracy. Before you send it back you should at least see how well it shoots

 

The picture of the free floater barrel is why I jumped on this deal, but turns out that the Buccaneer has a band just like Coyote.  Maybe I'll see how everyone else likes their's before I open up mine. 

[K.O.]

well I am just a touch miffed...

I am used to Crosman they keep twist rate proprietary but have good info on all models, EVP/Manual, nothing that I  can find for the Buc and if you press the link at the Yote's page it gives  the sad O.M. of the Dyna Max not the yote manual...

I find it interesting that the Yote has Made in E.U. when if it is the same gun as the Buc then it is made in England...

I am an info junky so want more specifics on the barrel  like what twist are they using... what style of rifling, strait bore or tapered , non choked or choked (and how much) and so on

guess I will look for info on the all of current  BSA PCP line and see what I find...

[rkr]

May very well not.
BSA barrels love being free floated for accuracy. Before you send it back you should at least see how well it shoots

No personal experience om this but our local gunsmith who worked on one said that it would work without the barrel band.

[K.O.]

Here is the barrel spiel it say that like they have been for a good while tapered bore /groove and I know some of the older barrels had a choke.

So I do not think the Buc's barrel would be a departure from the norm..

http://bsaguns.co.uk/about/production.aspx


I have read that the twist on the Meteor is  1:19 but that is a lower fps springer...

[Ribbonstone]

Doubt it's any different from other BSA barrels (good barrels).  Visually, like the BSA stock a good bit more than the Gamo (not having handled them side by side, visual is all I have to go on).  Barrel band doesn't seem to be an issue, it's in a location that isn't critical and doesn't really hog-tie the barrl to the tube (acts more like a bump-stop), but it it irritates you it does seem like it would come off without any real problem.

So it cost about $100 more than the Gamo.  Like the BSA stock better, and for at least some shooters, not having the Gamo stamp might be worth the increase alone.

[Mod90]

 ;DJust had to sneak that little jibe in there didnt ya

But in all seriousness. Gamo pcp effortcls through the years have consistently yielded less than stellar results.
Maybe the idea is to market the Spanish gun as England made as a test to see where their reputation is. Maybe its just rebranded overstock. Who knows.

Lets all just hope this one brings a performance better than the usual Gamo pcp standard and doesnt make the BSA track record take a blemish.

[vigilandy]

Doubt it's any different from other BSA barrels (good barrels).  Visually, like the BSA stock a good bit more than the Gamo (not having handled them side by side, visual is all I have to go on).  Barrel band doesn't seem to be an issue, it's in a location that isn't critical and doesn't really hog-tie the barrl to the tube (acts more like a bump-stop), but it it irritates you it does seem like it would come off without any real problem.

So it cost about $100 more than the Gamo.  Like the BSA stock better, and for at least some shooters, not having the Gamo stamp might be worth the increase alone.

Actually, with the current sale price on Amazon the BSA is over $100 LESS than the Gamo.  That's one reason I found the deal to be irresistible.  This is probably a pricing anomaly though. 

The Scorpion 1200 SE was only $100 more (last night anyway) than the Buccaneer... Shrouded and free floated barrel with BSA trigger, but plastic stocked.  I like the wood better but can live with plastic.  Can't live with loud,  so will likely need aftermarket quieter for the Buccaneer.  Cost ends up being a toss up. 

[Ribbonstone]

Yes, I did have to sneak that in there.  Gamo has made, and is making, some good stuff under their logo, but the "other" stuff tends to detract from the name.

Guess the eaiest thing to do it find the time to shoot the BSA for a day or two as soon as it gets there.  Carefully save all the packaging and be very careful not to ding it up/bugger a screw/or scrape it with ill fitting scope mounts.  If at the end of a couple of days it's not a "winner", box it up, send it back, and get store credit towards what you do want.

[K.O.]

well I found the factory tour and heard 1:19 twist mentioned I think I read that they are all that twist regardless of caliber..?

and I seem to remember 12 lands and grooves for the .22s at least..?

get to see an few bits of plumbing...



Since there is not much out there about them I guess they needed to get some out..   I mean the barrel & running off 3300 for just a bit more than a disco mine was 280 after TAX... but had a 30 dollar gift card..

at the price I trust it outshines the disco by a good bit..

I think I need an adapter for my Benji pump...

***linky removed***

[vigilandy]

I think I need an adapter for my Benji pump...

Good point Kirby!  I didn't think about that.  Post a link if you locate the right one please. 

[K.O.]

;DJust had to sneak that little jibe in there didnt ya

But in all seriousness. Gamo pcp effortcls through the years have consistently yielded less than stellar results.
Maybe the idea is to market the Spanish gun as England made as a test to see where their reputation is. Maybe its just rebranded overstock. Who knows.

Lets all just hope this one brings a performance better than the usual Gamo pcp standard and doesnt make the BSA track record take a blemish.

Are you talking about the Coyote I do not know where it is made...

But the Buc is made at the home of BSA...

[ztirffritz]

The .177 Bucaneer is currently $315 on Amazon.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00VF37PLS/ref=pd_aw_sbs_200_3?ie=UTF8&refRID=013X67MFCPD6JVYPWR0T&th=1&psc=1

[K.O.]

Link remove above was supposed to be to this 16$ shipped adapter...

https://www.pyramydair.com/product/air-venturi-male-quick-disconnect-1-8-bspp-female-threads-steel-rated?a=3550

I think it is the right one?

[robertr]

 Some specs I found on the Buccaneer, I can get it for $750 Canadian, no deals up here.

.22 calibre (5.5mm)
30+ ft/lbs - 1000 ft/sec
10-shot magnetic rotary magazine
Bolt-action
Solid ambidextrous beech stock
11mm scope rail
Two-stage adjustable trigger
BSA hammer-forged rifled steel barrel
Built-in manometer (air pressure gauge)
Self-regulated valve
232 bar (3,365 psi)
153cc air reservoir capacity
Specifications:
Weight: 7.7 lb
Overall Length: 39”
Barrel Length: 18.5"

Made in UK

[Acapulco]

Congrats on the purchase. I too, was following it on amazon yesterday and today. It got as low as $281, tempting but I resisted on pushing the buy button.. Maybe, because I just picked up a german air pistol and a 22lr just last week.

enjoy