Marauder .25 good past 50 yds? other recommendations welcome

[sawtoothscream]

Wanting to buy another pcp soon and  want one thats good past 50 yds.

My disco is pretty dang accurate at 50 yds and will hit the spinner target consistantly at 70 yards, think its a 3" plate.    Awesome little gun but I want something that will still have alot of energy at those ranges and more accuracy for squirrel hunting.

My big hold back with the m rod is my .22 I had a few years back was bad past 30 yds with every pellet.  Dont want to buy the .25 and find I should have just stuck with the disco.


Want to stay under $700 for the new gun.  thanks

[Night_Raider_]

The .25 barrels are made by Green Mountain and are known for the best accuracy you can get at that price point.  The .22 barrels were made by Crosman, which is why they weren't as good. I've heard several tales of MOA groups at 100 yards, though I've never actually seen or used one in person. A .25 Mrod is going to be much more accurate than your Disco, I'm sure of that.

[William]

If you plan on shooting anything past 50 yds, you need to go .25 cal or .30 cal. 70 yards is a long way off with a .22 PCP. There are plenty of $700 AG's that will work for your needs in .25 and .30 such as Mrod, Hatsan, Sumatra, and Air Force.

Now what is it you want in the AG?
Do you need it backyard friendly (Quiet)?
Single shot/repeater or does that matter?

One thing you need is consistent power (FPS/FPE) beyond 50 yards.

Just about all the AG's I mentioned above will get you were you want! You just need to make sure of the different specs that you need as mentioned above.

My first choice at that price range would be the Hatsan AT44-10 Long QE in .25 or the Hatsan BT Big Bore Carnivore QE  in .30 cal. from what I have reading and seen as far as testing either one of these would fit your needs.

If a single shot will work for your needs the the Airforce line-up would work great in .25 cal as well. AirForce Condor SS

I have owned a .25 Marauder and it was great, wish I still had it! Definitely a good AG and accurate.

All the Airguns I mentioned have what you as far as power/accuracy and flexibility, you just need to decide which fits your needs the best.

William

[maraudinglizard]

I have a stock Gen 2 Marauder and never had a problem with accuracy. I have no doubt this rifle is capable of reaching 100yds. I shoot paintballs sitting on golf tees for fun at 60yrds with eun jin 43.2gr pellets. You will not be disappointed with the .25 cal. I also use an optional single shot tray for longer, heavier slugs. It's very quiet and backyard friendly. I paid $479.00 for mine and have owned it for 2 years now. The only thing I have replaced on it is the breech seal.

The pic below was the first time I shot the marauder at 60yds with the Eun Jins. The orange target dot is 3/4 inches in diameter. The lone hole was a test shot for holdover. In another part of the pic, I compared the dot to a half inch staple for reference. The plywood is half inch thick.

[Frank in Fairfield]

As they said, what is your plans.

A .22lr with 150fpe is barely a 75 yard round.
A stock .25 Marauder with 41fpe could hardly be expected to do more.
Targets?
Yes?
Humane harvesting?
Hardly

The .25 Marauder w/o a moderator is backyard friendly in Florida.
Nowhere else.

IMHO

[Airgun.Sniper]

As they said, what is your plans.

A .22lr with 150fpe is barely a 75 yard round.
A stock .25 Marauder with 41fpe could hardly be expected to do more.
Targets?
Yes?
Humane harvesting?
Hardly

The .25 Marauder w/o a moderator is backyard friendly in Florida.
Nowhere else.

IMHO

 We often shoot 22lr out to 150 yards often...and .22 cal pellet gun can do 70 yards easy. Comes down to the gun, shooters capabilites, and pellet choice...maybe some other variables. Id shoot my hatsan 28 fpe and mrod tuned for 12 fpe out to 90 yards.

[Night_Raider_]

As they said, what is your plans.

A .22lr with 150fpe is barely a 75 yard round.
A stock .25 Marauder with 41fpe could hardly be expected to do more.
Targets?
Yes?
Humane harvesting?
Hardly

The .25 Marauder w/o a moderator is backyard friendly in Florida.
Nowhere else.

IMHO

I couldn't disagree more, though I'll keep it to myself this time.  If I didn't know better, I'd think you were a troll.

[sawtoothscream]

my requirements are .25 and accurate past 50 yards with a decent trigger.    thats pretty much it.   All my airguns are single shot so that it fine by me.

Sound wise If its not much louder then my disco then im fine with that as well.     Not legal to add a shroud to airguns in NYS so I dont want it to be like a 12ga going off.


Not sure about hatsan either, is the PCP trigger the same as the springer version ? I hate that thing

[pllagunos]

Or you can get a Bwalton tuned Hatsan with an ldc or shroud, there are many options all the way from at44s to BT65 carnivores, if you want to reach 100 yards I would highly suggest a .25 airgun if you don't want to practice a lot to know how the wind affects a lighter .22 pellet, however I have an at44 in .22 and I know it can reach 100 yards without a problem if the shooter is doing his part and the gun is tuned and feed its favorite pellet.

[Habanero69er]

My Gen-1, .22 Marauder has no problem reaching out to 100m shooting 18g JSBs. So a .25 Marauder should have no problem with 50yds. If you want a little more oomph, in a lighter weight rifle, you might consider a Sumatra carbine. Not pellet picky, but probably louder than the Marauder.

[Jmorris]

If it is not too windy my .25 is fine on my small plate rack at 100 (2" plates).

At 60 yds it's not even a challenge holding a video camera.

[tefloncoated]

  Not legal to add a shroud to airguns in NYS so I dont want it to be like a 12ga going

Marauder IS a shrouded PCP airgun. And, it's made in NY.  However, if your intent is hunting with it, then you will be entering some murky waters as under NY hunting laws airguns ARE firearms. And adding a device to suppress the report of a firearm is...well... not something one would wanna mess with in the "free" state of NY.

Having said that, you can't go wrong with a used Gen 1 or Gen 2 Marauder for the requirements you've stated.

[sawtoothscream]

  Not legal to add a shroud to airguns in NYS so I dont want it to be like a 12ga going

Marauder IS a shrouded PCP airgun. And, it's made in NY.  However, if your intent is hunting with it, then you will be entering some murky waters as under NY hunting laws airguns ARE firearms. And adding a device to suppress the report of a firearm is...well... not something one would wanna mess with in the "free" state of NY.

Having said that, you can't go wrong with a used Gen 1 or Gen 2 Marauder for the requirements you've stated.

as far as I can tell if they come with the shroud they are legal, but who knows around here.   

[rkr]

.25 BSAs are rather good for the money. My Scorpion does sub 1" ctc groups at 100 yards.

[Jr_Explorer]

Wow!  This thread has what I consider a LOT of mis-information in it. 

I own a .25 M-rod.  It is out of the box stock and it shoots at an average of 819 fps (38 fpe, ES of 3%) for 3 magazines (24 shots) with JSB Exact King 25.39 grn pellets.   I've hit and killed a rabbit at a lasered 107 yds (witnessed by others, and it fell over dead and didn't twitch).  I hit and kill ground squirrels at 70-80 yds ALL THE TIME and get complete pass through on 100% of them unless it's a dead on lengthwise shot.  In my first hand experience, 50-80 yds is this guns sweet spot.  Very quiet too.

IMHO people are getting "caliber happy" these days.  Unless you are shooting almost exclusively in the desert or woods the over-penetration on small game with a .30 caliber or above is going to be a real problem.  I consider it a noticeable problem just shooting in a rural area near a golf course.  I ALWAYS have to consider where the pellet is going to go because it is always going to just keep on going even after a good hit.  Again, IMHO unless you are REGULARLY going to take game starting at wild pigs up through coyotes and at long ranges (100+ yds) OR you are trying to take smaller game at 100-200 yds then .25 caliber is all you need. 

A Hatsan BT65 is about 25% more powerful than my M-rod (about 50 fpe in a mild tune vs my approx. 40).  If you REALLY think you want/"need" more power and/or a flatter trajectory the BT65 is an awesome option in this price range.

[pllagunos]

One thing to consider also is the price of .25 pellets, compared to .22 or .177 they are really expensive and that's the primary reason I didn't get a .25 Mrod instead of my at44, the other reason is I like shooting in my backyard and a .25 pellet is just to much, even my .22 30fpe at44 is casing some real damage on the wall behind my targets and spinners. If I would be just hunting then I would get either a .25 BT65 or .25 Mrod

[Gary]

When I was testing my 25 M-Rod for the pellet it likes I had narrowed down to 3 at the 30 yard marker. Moved the target to 50 yards and shot 3 5 shot groups 2 of which could be covered with a dime. Never moved the target out any father , but have played with a spinner at 60 and 80 yards with hits being made as long as I did my part. Mine is tuned for 2 mags (16 shots) right at 40 fpe. 

Gary

[Jmorris]

One thing to consider also is the price of .25 pellets, compared to .22 or .177 they are really expensive and that's the primary reason I didn't get a .25 Mrod

Availability and almost all of my other air rifles and pistols are .22 is why I bought the .22 mrod first.

I would have kept it too if it was not so inaccurate.  The .25 met my accuracy expectations though.

[Jr_Explorer]

One thing to consider also is the price of .25 pellets, compared to .22 or .177 they are really expensive and that's the primary reason I didn't get a .25 Mrod...

This ALWAYS comes up in the .22 vs .25.  "Really expensive"...?  $400-$700 for the gun.  $150-$300 for a scope.  $200 - $700 for a way to get air in the gun.  Gun case.  Crony.  Full on camouflage outfit (1000% NECESSARY for hunting!  LOL!).  $150-$200 for a range finder (actually VERY handy for hunting).  So roughly $900 - $2,100 depending on taste...

And we are worried about $0.0398 (.22 JSB) vs $0.0484 (.25 JSB) cents per pellet?!?!?  Now .30 cal at $0.11 cents a shot...  Well that COULD break the bank!   

It's funny.  JSB's in .177 are $0.0239 cents each.  It is almost twice as expensive to shoot .22 vs .177 but no one ever frets about that.

[Whatsquirrel]

I don't have a mrod the closest thing I have is a mini-rod. It has the a full length green mountain barrel in it. When I first got it from Travis it was tuned for 30fpe with jsb kings. Ihnever shot for groups out past 35yrds but I k ow I had no problem dropping rabbits at 60-70yrds. the also have a hatsan at44 in .22 cal & don't hesitate to shoot out to 100-125 yrds with it.

For its worth I believe Travis has an AT44 in .25 cal that has been tuned & regulated for sale with a bwalton LCD.