Hatsan PCP's

[LDP]

Rob my reply is on topic not off topic. Right at the bottom I say you can call crosman and get every part for the mrod. I have never ordered parts for either rifle but I have read posts about how hard parts are to get for Hatsans.

Just because you have not needed to replace a part doesnt mean someone else wont need good parts service.

 My sig isnt up to date. All 3 Hatsans went down the road So I dont recommend the Mrod after selling it and keeping the Hatsans. If you read my post I am not recommending either but gave the OP what they could expect from both choices based on my experience with both.

I answered the op and if you dont like that I give them an honest break down of what To expect from a Hatsan then move on. You say my post is off topic when I did touch on parts being available but your post isnt even directed to the OP.

 So again who sells all the parts for a Hatsan and has them ready to ship like crosman for the Mrod?

[BigTinBoat]

Rob my reply is on topic not off topic. Right at the bottom I say you can call crosman and get every part for the mrod. I have never ordered parts for either rifle but I have read posts about how hard parts are to get for Hatsans.

Just because you have not needed to replace a part doesnt mean someone else wont need good parts service.

 My sig isnt up to date. All 3 Hatsans went down the road So I dont recommend the Mrod after selling it and keeping the Hatsans. If you read my post I am not recommending either but gave the OP what they could expect from both choices based on my experience with both.

I answered the op and if you dont like that I give them an honest break down of what To expect from a Hatsan then move on. You say my post is off topic when I did touch on parts being available but your post isnt even directed to the OP.

So again who sells all the parts for a Hatsan and has them ready to ship like crosman for the Mrod?

I didn't intend to single you out, but the bolded part in the bottom of your reply is what he is asking, NO ONE has answered it.......he says that he KNOWS the MRod parts are easily obtained. I keep coming back to this post to see if there is an answer, but each time I am finding someone giving an opinion.

  Are they as easy to obtain parts for, maintain, etc., as the M-Rods, or is there a reason there are so many refurbished Hatsans compared to M-rods?

I don't own a Hatsan, but was interested in a "reply" to his question as I have been contemplating an AT44

[LDP]

Ok Rob I can see the point you were trying to make. I am also trying to make a point about the parts. Mrod you call crosman and tell them what you need they take your money and ship parts. For Hatsan you go to Hatsan USA and they have a maintenance kit containing o-rings. I found one place in the UK that had more parts but the springs for the hammer and the valve components were all the UK version for the sub 12 fpe setup. Half of the parts they listed were also out of stock and some were UK sales only.

 It was pretty clear from my research that I did before buying my Hatsans that parts were not going to be readily available unless you needed an o-ring. Again the Mrod is going to be the winner when comparing readily available parts and customer service.

[Martis 1]

Ok Rob I can see the point you were trying to make. I am also trying to make a point about the parts. Mrod you call crosman and tell them what you need they take your money and ship parts. For Hatsan you go to Hatsan USA and they have a maintenance kit containing o-rings. I found one place in the UK that had more parts but the springs for the hammer and the valve components were all the UK version for the sub 12 fpe setup. Half of the parts they listed were also out of stock and some were UK sales only.

 It was pretty clear from my research that I did before buying my Hatsans that parts were not going to be readily available unless you needed an o-ring. Again the Mrod is going to be the winner when comparing readily available parts and customer service.

Thank you!  That helps me a lot.
Ron.

[LDP]

You are welcome Ron. Rob sry if I came off as a jerk in my first reply. I missed your point as well as you did mine but I think we cleared that up and no harm no foul as far as I am concerned.

[BigTinBoat]

Ok Rob I can see the point you were trying to make. I am also trying to make a point about the parts. Mrod you call crosman and tell them what you need they take your money and ship parts. For Hatsan you go to Hatsan USA and they have a maintenance kit containing o-rings. I found one place in the UK that had more parts but the springs for the hammer and the valve components were all the UK version for the sub 12 fpe setup. Half of the parts they listed were also out of stock and some were UK sales only.

It was pretty clear from my research that I did before buying my Hatsans that parts were not going to be readily available unless you needed an o-ring. Again the Mrod is going to be the winner when comparing readily available parts and customer service.

Leland - like to OP said - this is exactly what is needed, thanks

and you didn't sound like a jerk, it just seems like on threads like this you have to wade thru a bunch of the "ford/chevy" opinions to try and find the answer. Many do it, some more then others (those Brand Haters). I'm sure I've even gotten carried away and done it in a post or two.

[Sfttailrdr46]

The OP asked about parts availability for the Hatsan vs the Marauder because they were looking to purchase a .25 something down the road. I believe that Crosman is easier to order parts from since they are a USA company so no import fiascoes to contend with. Beyond that they are both PCP rifles capable of shooting better than the average shooter.

[Bwalton]

Hatsan USA carries parts, and they get to you fast!, No out of country stuff they are local. Thats if you need parts, I have only replaced o-rings and a screw at one point and that is it, and I shoot hard every week, hunt every week. go to the range 2-3 times a week.

[Mod90]

Baxter, do you have a phone number for Hatsan USA? I can't seem to locate one anywhere.

[BigTinBoat]

Baxter, do you have a phone number for Hatsan USA? I can't seem to locate one anywhere.

Here's one from the site.

Warrant Claims and Repair – For U.S. retail customers only.  Call HatsanUSA, Inc at (877) 278-4448 x201

[Bwalton]

Baxter, do you have a phone number for Hatsan USA? I can't seem to locate one anywhere.

I email, the respond very fast depending on time of day or the very next day. Parts get to me within 2-3days  where I order an extra valve air tube stock they are on it. use this email for parts
service@hatsanusa.com

[Martis 1]

Thanks again for all the responses guys!

Baxter, I took a look at the youtube videos you posted of the accuracy you're achieving with your Hatsans.  I gotta say, it's very impressive!

Ron.

[Bwalton]

Thanks Ron, I try to show the true ability of the rifle with a little work, and if you ever get one I would be more then happy to guide you along the path.

[GoneShootn]

I'm currently shooting a Disco, which I love, but I keep looking at a .25 M-rod down the road.  I figured I'd go that route because dealing with Crosman is so darn easy.  Parts are cheap and easy to get. 

My plan was to eventually grab a refurbished M-rod because of price, but they're hard to come by.

Glad I checked in. If anyone is looking for a good deal on a Hatson AT44, Airgun Depot is currently having a great promotion on the AT44 QE short and long for $110 off, or $389.99. Use promo code "champ". Good, I think, to Aug 23.

Jere

[pllagunos]

The good thing about the Hatsan's PCP platforms is they are really easy to maintain, Baxter said it, he hunts a lot and shot a lot and his at44 is still shooting excellent and the only part that he needed to replace was a screw (which I also needed to and the price was 12$ from the UK).

Also if you have some mechanical experience, or even if you don't it is really easy to tune these rifles. For example I don't have a lot of mechanical experience and I tuned my at44 short and now I get 30 shots inside 4% at 30 ft/lbs (860fps JSB heavies) with an efficiency of 1.2 fpe/ci.

[deliminator]

My first and only experience with Hatsan USA was very good. Needed an extra magazine and they delivered
as good as anyone else in the industry.

[AlanB]

I took it one step further- WHERE does the gun come from? Do I want to help 'that' country's GDP or would I rather support the GDP of another Nation- I have good relations with a couple Co.s in Turkey and like the folks I have dealt with there-

CAN NOT say the same when dealing with China- much of the goods we get from them are straight up junk-

If Daisy made a PCP then we could keep our Dollars here at home BUT they don't.

If Crosman MADE  air GUNS here in the US, then I would look at them again BUT they don't. I don;t mean 'built' here I mean MADE 100%  here in the US. with US steel, in a US factory with folks stamping and machining, using Barrel From Green Mt or Lothar for all their air guns and keep  folks employed Here.

also I like German steel  ( Hatsans) But I also drive  German Cars now  ( with my FORD Falcons under cover waiting for a restore) ,  sure the Jetta was made in Mexico but my 73-2002  is German and  I sure would not buy a car made in China- would you? Any one??
Unless I have NO choice I won;t get stuff from that one place with the Red Flag and stars- where free speech gets you jailed or worse.

So  maybe I  took it a bit too  far?? But then again maybe not.. yes I am a nationalist sorry if any one was offended with these comments just my take on the world and the goods we import- we have choices - choose wisely comrade ....

[GoneShootn]

I would go with the .25 Marauder without a doubt.

I went with a .25 Marauder last January and got a dud. After 7 months of frustration, I finally gave up and sent it back to Crosman who promptly sent a new rifle. I'm just beginning the testing and tuning, but it already appears that this one is a keeper. I guess we will see, but one thing is for sure - I'm not messing around with this one for 7 months. I will know for sure within 2 or 3 weeks exactly what I have or don't have.

Jere

[Martis 1]

I went with a .25 Marauder last January and got a dud. After 7 months of frustration, I finally gave up and sent it back to Crosman who promptly sent a new rifle. I'm just beginning the testing and tuning, but it already appears that this one is a keeper. I guess we will see, but one thing is for sure - I'm not messing around with this one for 7 months. I will know for sure within 2 or 3 weeks exactly what I have or don't have.

Jere
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Good luck and I'd sure be interested to see how this new rifle turns out for you.  I'm sure other prospective Marauder owners would too.
Ron.

[Mod90]

Thing is a lot of folks tend to lose sight of the fact that Hatsan, Benjamin, Eunjin & many other guns on the market today were made to be and marketed as budget pcps. As a direct result of this there will be those who hat like some brands more than others, and QC issues that may vary from one brand to the next. Allowing personal preference to bias ones opinion for or against one make or another is an individuals privilege. But just keep in mind these guns are what they are and as such will all have shortfalls in one dept or another.

That being said, I love my Hatsans for 3 simple reasons regardless of their downsides.
1-Generally they provide lots of power and accuracy otb
2-They are easily modifiable to whatever needs a shooter may hàve
3-They are based on a ridiculously simple platform. So simple to the point that even if certain parts are not as readily available from the dealer or manufacturer, they can be made by hand I one were to choose to do so. Quite recently I completely remade all the moving parts in the BT 65 trigger group with nothing but a dremel. Ridiculously wonderfully beautifully simple design.

My humble advice to anyone looking for a new gun in the budget PCP area is know your needs, know your budget, and exercise due diligence. Do those things and you'll most likely wind up with what you're looking for. Regardless of who made it or where it was assembled.