Beeman R1 Repairs

[Tazman]

Greetings all.

I am new to this Forum and new to air gun shooting (well since BB guns when I was a kid anyway). I have a Beeman R1and need some repairs (I think).

Being new I downloaded to Manual from Pyramyd Air and talked with them about the repairs. I cannot get the gun to cock or fire and think the safety may be jammed. But not sure about any of it. Is there anywhere that anyone knows about in the St Louis area? Or, does anyone have any ideas that might be helpful?

Thanks in advance for any information. 

[bwana]

Welcome to the GTA Tazman. I don't own any german guns so I'll leave the advice to someone else but I think they will need more information to help you. First, think about safety. Is it loaded?  When you say it won't cock or fire, that's two different things. What happens when you try to cock it? Is it making noise? Does it sound like something is binding up? How familiar are you with the gun? How many times have you fired it before the problem? Can you post some pictures of it with the stock removed? Why do you think the safety is stuck? Let us know more and I'm sure somebody here can help you get it working again. You're among friends. Good luck. p.s. I live about 180 miles north of St. Louis, in Illinois

[Mark 611]

Well if the gun is not stuck in a cocked mode meaning ready to fire and as said, can you feel the spring pressure up and down while trying to cock the rifle? if so its probly not cocked but to be safe anyway go outside and point it in a safe direction! and adjust the trigger screw inward {clockwise} a few turns and try recocking the rifle. If the trigger is adjusted to far out {counter clockwise} it won't lock up! try this first and let us know what happens and we'll try to figure this out for you ok!

[Tazman]

Welcome to the GTA Tazman. I don't own any german guns so I'll leave the advice to someone else but I think they will need more information to help you.

Thanks for the response but man you need to try some decaf. LOL

First, think about safety. Is it loaded? 

I am not a child and no it is not loaded. I always think safety first.

When you say it won't cock or fire, that's two different things. What happens when you try to cock it?

It doesn't lock

Is it making noise?

No

Does it sound like something is binding up?

No

How familiar are you with the gun?

Never fired the gun

How many times have you fired it before the problem?

See above

Can you post some pictures of it with the stock removed?

No

Why do you think the safety is stuck?

Doesn't seem to go all the way to either side

Let us know more and I'm sure somebody here can help you get it working again. You're among friends. Good luck. p.s. I live about 180 miles north of St. Louis, in Illinois

[Tazman]

Well if the gun is not stuck in a cocked mode meaning ready to fire and as said, can you feel the spring pressure up and down while trying to cock the rifle?

If I lean the gun back the cocking arm swings towards the barrel and there is pressure all the way but it never locks.

 if so its probly not cocked but to be safe anyway go outside and point it in a safe direction! and adjust the trigger screw inward {clockwise} a few turns and try recocking the rifle. If the trigger is adjusted to far out {counter clockwise} it won't lock up! try this first and let us know what happens and we'll try to figure this out for you ok!

Sounds like a possibility. The screww looks to be adjusted pretty far "out". I will try it this evening and let you know. Thank you.

[Mark 611]

cool!

[Tazman]

Tried adjusting the screw but no joy. Still will not lock in to the cocked position.

[Mark 611]

ok, well now your gonna have to take her apart, its real simple ever done it before?

[bwana]

Tazman, I'm sorry if I insulted your intelligence with my questions. We do have kids on the site and some people who don't know too much about airguns. I just didn't want you to get hurt. It's funny you mention decaf because I switched to decaf 5 years ago.   I hope you get it fixed soon. Safe shooting.

[Tazman]

My apologies bwana. Perhaps I was the one too hepped up. I realize your intent was friendly. Just kind of overwhelmed me with the number of questions.

Austin, I have never dismantled this gun but have many others. I do not however have a spring compressor. It seems clear that the trigger is the culprit here though as the gun seems to go through the proper motions to cock but there is no expected "click" at the bottom of the compression throw to lock the firing mechanism at the trigger. So either the trigger is the problem or the cocking mechanism is not pushing back far enough to lock.

The gun is in excellent condition except for a minor scratch to the stock that can be rubbed out easy enough. Otherwise it is pristine. The gun belonged to my Father-in-Law until he passed several years ago and it came to me. I have never fired the gun as it has always been in this condition.

[Mark 611]

You don't need a spring compressor to take out the trigger group or for the rifle for that matter! I know how to work on Beeman/HW rifles If you need my help on this I can walk you thru this! its pretty easy to do. some others here are not familiar with working on R1's so if you don't know don't make suggestions and lead Tazman in the wrong direction.

[Mark 611]

I'm didn't try to discourage anyone or do I mean to sound like I\m some kinda self- proclaimed expert here but I have alot of experience working on Beemans and HW rifles and work on them all the time with tunes and trigger mods and when I see mis information I try  to point it out. When you working on a 5 to 6 hundred dollar rifle their's a right way and a wrong way to do things not just SWAGIN it.

[Tazman]

Will be gone this weekend but will check back in after that to get info on taking this baby apart and checking that trigger mechanism.

On another note, I have apologized to bwana for taking his comments the wrong way. It was all my fault. But I don't want this to become a point of contention amongst the folks here.

I appreciate everyone's input and as is usual, I will need to glean the best of the best in hopes of getting this excellent gun working again. I look forward to having it available for target shooting.

[bwana]

Tazman, We're good, don't worry about it. I hope you get your shooter fixed soon. I only wish I owned one so I could offer some help.

[bart the fart]

ok guys....sooooo we are gonna get this thread back on track and thats great!  it got a little heated, and now we'll get back to the matter at hand. lets get Taz's fine lady up and working and chuckin' lead like she should.....thanks bart 

[Tazman]

Guess I upset some folks and no takers on helping. My apologies. And thanks to those who tried.

 

[Mark 611]

well did you get it fixed? were willing to help you!

[Tazman]

I have not gotten it fixed but the trigger adjust suggested did not work. I have not taken it apart as I am thinking it will need more than I am able to do. I do not have a spring compressor but may take it apart for easier and cheaper shipping. Still not sure where to send it though. Pyramyd Air is the only place I have found on my own.

[bart the fart]

plenty of tuners right here on the GTA shadow does GREAT work! send him a PM(private message) and tell him what the gun is and is not doing and he'll quote you a price.....have that hot rod up and rolling in no time...cheers bart

[Tazman]

Sent te R1 off to shadow and he fixed her up just fine Here is a quote from the message I sent to him.

"Got the R1 back today and everything seems to be working fine. Will have to take her out to a range and reset the scope but really happy to have her working again. Thanks so much for the great service and quick turn-around. Thanks again."

Thanks for all the suggestions and help but this was better off in the hands of an expert. Broken piece on the cocking arm mechanism was the issue.

Thanks again shadow.