One more addition to the series....A 65 gr. that is 2.0 calibers long.... It still has the 8 degree boattail, and the Meplat is increased to 70% to stay close to the 20* angle on the nose.... It still is nearly flat on the drag up to Mach 0.9 (1000 fps).... This is pushing the limits, anything shorter will need a 10 degree boattail and a shorter nose Ogive radius to maintain a decent bearing length.... Both will increase the drag between Mach 0.8-0.9....Bob