Author Topic: Texan (Read 91061 times))

supertech77 · « **Reply #100 on:** August 12, 2015, 10:55:55 PM »

Quote from: MJP on August 12, 2015, 08:13:12 AM

Folks having a no disclosure agreement with AF for no pictures?
Marko

yeah,yeah , i know] lol ,there coming when my camera get,s hear, already got the 32 gb cards for it, i would really love to show this beast off for you all so you can see, i hope chad2 can down load the pictures when i take them, cause i gave up trying too,he knows what a beast of power the gun is and how many shots and at what power it shoots at,he shot it and was very impressed,

the1stkim · « **Reply #101 on:** August 13, 2015, 06:21:44 AM »

Quote from: wwonka on August 12, 2015, 07:21:40 PM

Quote from: johninthecamper on August 12, 2015, 02:21:56 AM
I shot a texan today,very powerful.the lever is great,way loud.not sure if I would want to carry it around all day,3shots before refill.
Is it 3 shots before refill or "a bunch"? I've heard conflicting info on this. Are there any shot strings for this gun?

Where the power wheel is set at and the weight of the slug has everything to do with the amount of shots you get. Generally youd test with each weight of buullet untill you have a general idea where it shoots best for you at. I have gotten 15 shots with roundball but that would mean nothing to a guy that want to shoot 405 grain. Personally I thing the extreme bullets are a waiste. Dont sit around hunting coons and cayotes with 400 grains. The 180's are perfect and youll get a complete pass throuugh and a gaping wound channel even if you shoot the bones. The wound channel will just have big bone fragments in it.

supertech77 · « **Reply #102 on:** August 13, 2015, 08:49:43 AM »

Totally agree with that accessment.

sshewins · « **Reply #103 on:** August 13, 2015, 10:47:46 AM »

Maybe you should rent the Texan to Joe for the weekend?

rsterne · « **Reply #104 on:** August 13, 2015, 12:47:26 PM »

What bullet weight will the Texan shoot in the low-mid 900s?.... IMO that is what I would use.... providing you can find one that is accurate, of course....

For my Hayabusa, that is around 216 gr. at about 430 FPE....

Bob

Metnav1 · « **Reply #105 on:** August 13, 2015, 10:26:07 PM »

Old Timer,
166 gr shoots at about 975 fps, and a 147 gr about 1015 fps... I will be testing some 185 gr hollow points tomorrow, I think they'll be about where you want. They'll be Mr. Hollowpoints brand. I'll post the results.

Metnav1 · « **Reply #106 on:** August 13, 2015, 10:56:14 PM »

My Texan arrived 3 days ago:

I unpacked it, assembled it with a scope and bipod.

I used 166 gr Air venture semi wadcutters to sight it in, I was on the bull by my sixth shot. Tested at 50 yards with 2 inch groups of 6 shots being the normal performance.

The first shot at 3000 psi in every group was 100 fps slower than the second shot, which was the fastest of the groups at about 990 fps.

It has valve lock at 3000 psi, but I assume a minor valve adjustment will fix this. I'm not adjusting the valve during my initial tests with different projectile weights. I just thought I'd see how it'd behave without messing with the valve, and give it a chance to loosen up.

My first fill on the gun went straight out the barrel, jiggled the valve, problem disappeared
My first refill, the bottle valve refused to close when releasing the air pressure and vented through the pressure release valve. I topped up the gun to 3000 psi, and released the pressure with greater speed, and the bottle valve sealed.

No more filling problems after that, It's just new Ha Ha

It is quieter than I expected from other reviews, my 909s is much louder. It has more kick than the 909s, but can easily be contained.

It is much better built than the 909s. The engineering, and quality of materials are absolutely top notch!!! It is great value for money, and does exactly what reviewers said it will do. It has overcome every problem I've found on other guns in this class, up to now.

It's still early days, and I'm still learning it.

wwonka · « **Reply #107 on:** August 13, 2015, 11:08:56 PM »

Great early review Metnav1.

LEE IN VA. · « **Reply #108 on:** August 13, 2015, 11:30:07 PM »

Quote from: Metnav1 on August 13, 2015, 10:56:14 PM

My Texan arrived 3 days ago:

I unpacked it, assembled it with a scope and bipod.

I used 166 gr Air venture semi wadcutters to sight it in, I was on the bull by my sixth shot. Tested at 50 yards with 2 inch groups of 6 shots being the normal performance.

The first shot at 3000 psi in every group was 100 fps slower than the second shot, which was the fastest of the groups at about 990 fps.

It has valve lock at 3000 psi, but I assume a minor valve adjustment will fix this. I'm not adjusting the valve during my initial tests with different projectile weights. I just thought I'd see how it'd behave without messing with the valve, and give it a chance to loosen up.

My first fill on the gun went straight out the barrel, jiggled the valve, problem disappeared
My first refill, the bottle valve refused to close when releasing the air pressure and vented through the pressure release valve. I topped up the gun to 3000 psi, and released the pressure with greater speed, and the bottle valve sealed.

No more filling problems after that, It's just new Ha Ha

It is quieter than I expected from other reviews, my 909s is much louder. It has more kick than the 909s, but can easily be contained.

It is much better built than the 909s. The engineering, and quality of materials are absolutely top notch!!! It is great value for money, and does exactly what reviewers said it will do. It has overcome every problem I've found on other guns in this class, up to now.

It's still early days, and I'm still learning it.

How does it handle compared to the 909? I have a 909 and am considering a Texan but my son will be shooting too so it must fit a young person.

Monkeydad1969 · « **Reply #109 on:** August 13, 2015, 11:37:17 PM »

Quote from: sshewins on August 13, 2015, 10:47:46 AM

Maybe you should rent the Texan to Joe for the weekend?

I got no problems with that.

Metnav1 · « **Reply #110 on:** August 14, 2015, 10:51:28 AM »

Lee,
The 909s is lighter and smaller, but cocking it is tough, and pulling the trigger will require both hands for a youngster. I found the 909s trigger and bolt setup both unacceptable.

The 909s will fit a smaller frame but the gun is generally awful to use.

The Texan was built for an adult, and pretty much unadjustable size wise.

So, I don't think either gun will work for a youngster.

I had a similar problem with my daughter, she is 5 feet even, and couldn't fit the guns I had, so I made one for her.
A Marauder pistol, custom air tube, regulated, 18 inch hammer forged barrel, upgraded valve, and an AR stock... 24 shots @ 25 ftlbs

A great squirrel gun

wwonka · « **Reply #111 on:** August 14, 2015, 12:00:08 PM »

Quote from: Metnav1 on August 14, 2015, 10:51:28 AM

So, I don't think either gun will work for a youngster.

I had a similar problem with my daughter, she is 5 feet even, and couldn't fit the guns I had, so I made one for her.
A Marauder pistol, custom air tube, regulated, 18 inch hammer forged barrel, upgraded valve... 24 shots @ 25 ftlbs

A great squirrel gun

Good comparison of the 909 and Texan.
Interesting that you didn't pick a Discovery for your daughter with those specs. Pretty close specs to what you built, and a nice rifle for a young person that size....

Metnav1 · « **Reply #112 on:** August 14, 2015, 01:29:04 PM »

Wwonka,

She is 16, and not getting any bigger... Same size as mom. She regularly beat her two brothers shooting the pistol with the Crosman stock, but it was OEM.

She already liked the pistol with the stock attached, and I already had the pistol, so I improved the entire gun to make it beat the marauders

The boys were shooting 40ftlb marauder .22s, both guns very modified, and she couldn't get the stock to her shoulder and reach the trigger.

Her Modified pistol was very light, but still more accurate over 50 yards than the other 2 marauder rifles, due mostly to the high quality barrel.

supertech77 · « **Reply #113 on:** August 14, 2015, 01:37:05 PM »

Congratulations on your new Texan,,I fill mine to 3300,with no problems,

wwonka · « **Reply #114 on:** August 14, 2015, 01:42:52 PM »

Quote from: Metnav1 on August 14, 2015, 01:29:04 PM

Wwonka,

She is 16, and not getting any bigger... Same size as mom. She regularly beat her two brothers shooting the pistol with the Crosman stock, but it was OEM.

She already liked the pistol with the stock attached, and I already had the pistol, so I improved the entire gun to make it beat the marauders

The boys were shooting 40ftlb marauder .22s, both guns very modified, and she couldn't get the stock to her shoulder and reach the trigger.

Her Modified pistol was very light, but still more accurate over 50 yards than the other 2 marauder rifles, due mostly to the high quality barrel.

Nice. Your daughter's lucky. Good to show her she can do what anyone else can, or better.

Metnav1 · « **Reply #115 on:** August 14, 2015, 02:47:18 PM »

Supertech,

I'm sure if I adjusted my valve spring I wouldn't get valve lock symptoms at 3000psi. I haven't made any valve spring adjustments, just recorded what I get as it came out of the box. I don't have a feel for this valve, and will learn it once I've seen how projectile weight affects it.

I could fill to 2900 psi, and avoid the symptoms. What I found interesting is the 100 fps difference between 3000 psi and 2900 psi, and after 2900psi is reached the shot string is very flat with only 10 psi between shots in the group.

I'm pretty sure that at 3300 psi I would have complete valve lock, and the gun wouldn't fire at all without increasing the valve spring tension.

Lots to absorb before I understand it completely

dcorvino · « **Reply #116 on:** August 14, 2015, 03:30:36 PM »

Quote from: Monkeydad1969 on August 13, 2015, 11:37:17 PM

Quote from: sshewins on August 13, 2015, 10:47:46 AM
Maybe you should rent the Texan to Joe for the weekend?

I got no problems with that.

Joe my friend you do know you'll have to return it in a few days right ?
It wouldn't get lost in shipping now would it?? LOL

Dave

Metnav1 · « **Reply #117 on:** August 14, 2015, 04:13:27 PM »

I promised some shot strings:

185 gr Hollow Points

Fill: 3000 PSI Shot 1 641.3 FPS
2800 2 942.0
2600 3 925.7
2500 4 912.2
2350 5 886.4
2300 6 867.8
2200 7 846.4

200 gr Hollow Points

Fill: 3000 PSI Shot 1 948.2
2850 2 911
2650 3 888.1
2450 4 879.7
2250 5 852.4
2050 6 840
1900 7 809.5

These were Mr. Hollow Point brand. They claimed .457" but were a tight fit. The 200 gr had higher readings than I expected, and I believe that's probably due to the extra length of the projectile providing a better barrel seal. The low reading for shot 1 on the 185 gr has been typical for the first shot on the 147 gr and 166 gr projectiles at 3000 psi, but didn't occur on the 200 gr

Gives me more food for thought on the valve characteristics.

I ran a second 200 gr string, and the results were pretty much the same.

Metnav1 · « **Reply #118 on:** August 14, 2015, 04:28:09 PM »

Remember all these readings have been taken without any adjustment to the valve setting, and I'm sure better results are obtainable if the valve is adjusted correctly to enhance a particular projectile.

johninthecamper · « **Reply #119 on:** August 14, 2015, 04:43:36 PM »

the grains were 340@800 fps,3000 to 1500 psi,three shots

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