Author Topic: Ruger Air Hawk (refurb from MidwayUSA) mini review (Read 21387 times))

avator · « **Reply #20 on:** July 01, 2015, 03:04:16 PM »

LOL.. I live in Alabama... we have the likes of Walmart, Dollar General, Chinese Food joints and Dish Satelite. The law may very well state that but it only as often as not that you get it.

Anylizer · « **Reply #21 on:** July 01, 2015, 03:31:41 PM »

Quote from: avator on July 01, 2015, 03:04:16 PM

LOL.. I live in Alabama... we have the likes of Walmart, Dollar General, Chinese Food joints and Dish Satelite. The law may very well state that but it only as often as not that you get it.

EXACTLY... and how much time and $$$ in liar fees will it cost to get your $50/$100 air rifle compensated for???

Don't get me wrong, right is right, but we have also agreed to accept the "cheaper" version of overseas products as a society.

lefteyeshot · « **Reply #22 on:** July 01, 2015, 04:01:22 PM »

If all pellet rifles were built to that high standard I couldn't afford them. Most of my guns I bought at pawn shops, on sale, off the classifieds or refurbed. I believe most refurbs are sent back by people who expected more or broke the scope provided before the gun quit dieseling.
I've bought:
Nice TF89 w/ Leapers scope $80 pawn shop
Win.1000 $35 pawn shop, good gun
Crosman Storm $60 pawn shop, nice
Refurb Win.1100 $79.95 shipped.
Refurbed Blackhawk Elite $59.95
The refurb Airhawk we're talking about
Hatsan 200c carbine on sale $250
Hatsan 155 on sale $225
Beautiful TF89 w/ a nice scope and a Beeman .22 chopped and shrouded barrel from another member $185
Real nice Fastdeer ,scope, sling and case for $125 from a member

A buddy of mine bought a new Porche Carrera dual torbo, $214,000 out the door. Didn't like it and traded it.
I bought a new Dodge Challenger, no turbo, $27,500 out the door. I like it ok.

INVICTVSREX · « **Reply #23 on:** July 01, 2015, 04:24:08 PM »

I will once again refer directly to the advertisement...

"The Ruger Impact Factory Reconditioned Air Rifle has been through the factory and completely overhauled to provide you with a like new rifle that we can offer for a great price!"

Now I'm not asking for Air Arms $1000+ comparable product here, also not asking for .25" groups out of the box. But rust free and straight is kind of a give in when you read the above advertisement/statement. Call me critical if you will but the whole "you get what you pay for" thing is just people accepting mediocrity as the norm. I'm also aware that all air rifles are things that you have to work on and refine over time. That said I still Realistically expect better than what was OP'ed.

JerryinWI · « **Reply #24 on:** July 01, 2015, 10:01:11 PM »

After buying my refurb I can tell you no more China guns for me. I should of known not to get anything from umarex after all the trouble I had with my walther. $13 to ship it to them and $28 to ship it back to me and I did that 4 times until I told them to just keep the gun because I couldnt afford to ship it back and forth no more.

avator · « **Reply #25 on:** July 01, 2015, 10:17:13 PM »

Whoa... I was the original poster of the link to this deal. Ya'll make me want to poke myself in the eye with a sharp stick for doing that.
Sorry ya'll are having these issues.

Methuselah · « **Reply #26 on:** July 01, 2015, 10:36:36 PM »

Quote from: avator on July 01, 2015, 03:04:16 PM

LOL.. I live in Alabama... we have the likes of Walmart, Dollar General, Chinese Food joints and Dish Satelite. The law may very well state that but it only as often as not that you get it.

Sadly, It's because people rarely stand on principle if it takes an effort. Doesn't make your comment anyless than 100% true unfortunately

Methuselah · « **Reply #27 on:** July 01, 2015, 10:46:54 PM »

Quote from: Anylizer on July 01, 2015, 03:31:41 PM

Quote from: avator on July 01, 2015, 03:04:16 PM
LOL.. I live in Alabama... we have the likes of Walmart, Dollar General, Chinese Food joints and Dish Satelite. The law may very well state that but it only as often as not that you get it.

EXACTLY... and how much time and $$$ in liar fees will it cost to get your $50/$100 air rifle compensated for???

Don't get me wrong, right is right, but we have also agreed to accept the "cheaper" version of overseas products as a society.
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You get war you pay for. If it's a knockoff, caveat emptor - but if it's a new mazaratti on the showroom floor , once I have clear title they are going to honor the warranty even if I paid $50 for it

vigilandy · « **Reply #28 on:** July 01, 2015, 10:56:18 PM »

Quote from: avator on July 01, 2015, 10:17:13 PM

Whoa... I was the original poster of the link to this deal. Ya'll make me want to poke myself in the eye with a sharp stick for doing that.
Sorry ya'll are having these issues.

I like mine Bill. It no tuned D34, but it's also a heck of a lot cheaper. Feels solid, looks good. Mine isn't broken in yet, so I'm sure the groups will improve. Unfair of me to compare it to gun costing many times more.

temchik · « **Reply #29 on:** July 01, 2015, 11:43:31 PM »

Quote from: avator on July 01, 2015, 10:17:13 PM

Whoa... I was the original poster of the link to this deal. Ya'll make me want to poke myself in the eye with a sharp stick for doing that.
Sorry ya'll are having these issues.

Nah, man, I will say thank you! Come think of it - I am not actually aggravated, I was going tinker with it anyway.

Deburred it, sanded and polished sping ends, removed the sleeve (casing pipe) that was dented. Never break the barrel with the stock off!

Didn't have any moly so lubed it with white lithium grease, shot cycle is still very quick and no twang, but cocking is a bit gritty. I am just going to shoot it for a while and then, possibly, put a new decent spring and seal in and finish it off with better washers.

If I could find a piston with a straigh rod I would be soo happy...

bmb · « **Reply #30 on:** July 02, 2015, 12:05:28 AM »

I bought mine for the purpose of learning how to take apart and reassemble a D34 clone instead of trying it on my D34 first. And that is exactly what I did the very first night I had it. So I polished all I could, put moly on all the clean parts and reassembled it. It seems to shoot fine. I haven't spent a lot of time with it yet so I can't comment on accuracy.

The outside of the gun looked like brand new. The inside was not rusty. I was well lubricated. The piston was rough in the cocking arm channel. I found the trigger to be more than acceptable for a gun of this price.

Would I order one again knowing what I have experienced? Absolutely

avator · « **Reply #31 on:** July 02, 2015, 07:41:03 AM »

Guys... I know we are guys and we live for more power but, I think the trick to this guns is slowing it down. We had MM detune an XS-25 for Betty Lou (basically the same gun) because she couldn't cock the AH repeatedly. That gun is awesomely accurate and smooth. She can shoot it all afternoon. Mike took it down to somewhere between the cocking effort of the original AH and the XS-12. It loves cheap .22 cal Daisy Wadcutters and stacks them on top of each other at 25 yds with enough power to work the resettable targets. I wouldn't hesitate a headshot on a squirrel at the range but I probably wouldn't stretch it any more than that. If I had the cash laying around at the time I saw this deal I would have bought 2 of them and done this exact detune to them. Very fun bench shooter. But, if i'm goung to the woods these are not the guns I prefer to carry. I would go with my lighter FD-PCP or a Dan. Or a 2240 bugout for stealth. Again, the things I post are the way I see them for me. I recommend each and everyone do what they see fit for them.
Enjoy... at all costs.

temchik · « **Reply #32 on:** July 02, 2015, 12:33:08 PM »

Here's a picture of what happens if one breaks the barrel with the stock off causing the cocking arm to pivot and push on the piston sleeve (casing pipe as the call it)

Always undo the cocking arm and remove it before taking the barrel off!

This will result in a strong ratcheting noise while cocking the rifle and will greatly increase cocking effort. Bewarned

Anylizer · « **Reply #33 on:** July 02, 2015, 12:54:11 PM »

Quote from: avator on July 01, 2015, 10:17:13 PM

Whoa... I was the original poster of the link to this deal. Ya'll make me want to poke myself in the eye with a sharp stick for doing that.
Sorry ya'll are having these issues.

I picked up a BlackHawk Elite on the refurb deal. shot it once, then tore into it... that's just what i do. I found NO major issue with it, and believe that a "new" gun would have looked just the same. Very satisfied with the deal! It shoots great, and after the clean& lube tune It shoots better than my Warranty Replaced (read NEW)Stoger X20s!
As I stated before, "refurb" at half the price of new, should be your first clue as to the expected quality! Like it or not, regardless of what the fine print says.

temchik · « **Reply #34 on:** July 02, 2015, 01:23:40 PM »

I am exchanging emails with Umarex about the piston issue, I was able to photograph the piston to show the angled rod, enjoy

DanD · « **Reply #35 on:** July 02, 2015, 04:05:26 PM »

Quote from: temchik on July 02, 2015, 12:33:08 PM

Here's a picture of what happens if one breaks the barrel with the stock off causing the cocking arm to pivot and push on the piston sleeve (casing pipe as the call it)

Always undo the cocking arm and remove it before taking the barrel off!

This will result in a strong ratcheting noise while cocking the rifle and will greatly increase cocking effort. Bewarned

Thanks for the warning!

lefteyeshot · « **Reply #36 on:** July 02, 2015, 06:14:10 PM »

I'd try bigger pellets before trying a de-tune.

INVICTVSREX · « **Reply #37 on:** July 02, 2015, 06:33:11 PM »

Well I received mine today (surprisingly fast) and cosmetically it looks just fine. there were a couple of spots where the stain and varnish was iffy but that can be dealt with. Haven't shot it yet and I'll probably wait till the weekend and do it, scopeless to start. In retrospect I may have been a bit over critical, so I'll apologize for that. Remains to be seen if the innards are up to par with the advertised product.
I guess being a newb and just a lil fearful of my first teardown caused a wee bit of apprehension, but as in all things Imma Haveta Get Over It.
will keep you posted, and thanks again TEMCHICK for the OP.

jcwit · « **Reply #38 on:** July 02, 2015, 07:33:13 PM »

Thought I'd hop into this fracus.

Org. OP says right off the price for said Air Hawk, funny, I looked at for a few days before I placed my order for one on June 30 2015, price was $49.99, just as it was a few days before. Where did that price of $44.50 come from???

Mine arrived in as new condition other than a simpler copy of the manual and no warranty card, and a plain cardboard box.

Mine shoots very accurately, at least for the first 30 shots so far, can cover my groups with a dime.

Am I going to tear it apart? Not hardly, I've bought many new cars in my driving time. Never tore one down after I got it in my driveway yet.

Seems to me someone has an issue with Midway or refurbished items in general.

Oh Ya, there was no rust, just an in general fantastic value for $49.99, not $44.50.

Oh, I forgot, first shot I made was into a phone boot, pellet penetrated 560+ pages, I'd say not to bad.

I've only been shooting pellet guns since the age of 6 or 7, that was 66 years ago.

temchik · « **Reply #39 on:** July 02, 2015, 07:48:34 PM »

Dunno, man, but that's what it was

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Ruger Air Hawk (refurb from MidwayUSA) mini review

Author Topic: Ruger Air Hawk (refurb from MidwayUSA) mini review (Read 21387 times))