can i make my benjamin np2 177, better

[mad187]

hi i was wondering if there is any way i can tune the np2 air rilfe?

[Roadworthy]

If you're mechanically inclined - yes.  If you don't know one end of a screwdriver from the other - no.

[HYspd]

to answer your question I'd need to know what you mean by the words "tune" and "better"?

 

[mad187]

mean to do it better as when you moly tunning a springer. i am what you call mechanically inclined .has a lot of experience with air rifle mechanically

[Roadworthy]

The answer to your initial question is probably yes.  A general cleaning and debur is pretty easy.  Unless you have knowledge and experience I don't recommend messing with the trigger.  A replacement trigger from charliedatuna.com is usually a worthwhile (or even essential) improvement.  You will need some type of spring compressor.

[HYspd]

Mechanically the NP2 is just an NP with a revised piston and some trigger refinements, so if you have experience with the internals of an NP or coil spring gun, it's just more of the same....same tools..same lubes...same techniques..same parts to replace during the rebuild...

[MIKELMIS]

replacement trigger from charliedatuna.com is usually a worthwhile (or even essential) improvement.

in my opinion a trigger replacement is UN-nessasary on these guns ; unless you are contemplating shooting in the Olympics - the stock trigger on this gun is absolutely fine

[mad187]

okey.i have done moly tunnig on springers before.will doing that job one the np2 make any different in the gun

[rokitman60]

Based on my admittedly limited experience, I'd say that done carefully, you can make a great deal of difference in the gun. With the help and guidance of a few of the 'older hands' here on the forum I've made a pretty decent shooter out of a $129 Optimus. It's not going to go head to head with an HW98, but I'm hitting what I'm shooting at, and that's pretty much what it's all about, isn't it? 


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[HYspd]

got to love the "controversy" over the GRT triggers....first question is how many of these guns have you shot with the factory trigger and how many with the GRT-III...and the second question is how many of the factory trigger guns are more than 3 years old...

those like myself with before and after experience consider them a solid improvement on the older "are you kidding me class triggers"


those that don't have that experience think it's a line of bologna...


well...see there's that experience thing.....see I KNOW that there has been a "clean up" of the trigger in these guns at some point a couple years ago....I have handled both production runs....the newer run is acceptable, it's quite an improvement over the older production run...

the trigger in my Titan when new, had a second stage of "up to" 5/8 inch in length.....It usually fired at about 3/8 inch but the exact point it would fire was inconsistent from shot to shot.....you never knew if it would fire as soon the trigger moved or just after it crossed the city limits line...that was before I started looking for options online....friends who shot the gun at that time would laugh at what I paid for it just based on that nightmare trigger...

telling anyone that a GRT-III is un necessary in that production run is ridiculous...there are cheaper, less safe, less effective alternatives but for that "one stop" and "step it and forget it" experience the GRT-III is the only option...

there is (or was) a member on here that admitted spending over $50 on bearings, washers, longer screws and the fuel to go get them and that he had several hours tied up trying to settle trigger in a crosman break barrel only to break the intermediate spring and have buy a complete trigger....he got one from another member that had a GRT-III in it and posted that his time and money had been wasted trying to get around the low cost (his words) of a GRT-III

and quite honestly I have guys shooting my gun that have the newer production run guns and they want (or now have) GRT-III triggers in their guns...it boils down to being the easiest adjustable trigger you can get for these guns...these guys are asking me to work on their guns because of how I have improved mine...

and these guns are being used for hunting where improved accuracy converts directly to quicker kills via better shot placement...



now the NP2 of the original poster is a much newer design and has the improved factory trigger in it so an aftermarket trigger would be less of an improvement....but improvements are worth the "low cost"

[MIKELMIS]

The stock NP2 trigger, properly adjusted , is just fine for me

[Privateer]

You don't use the GRT-III trigger in the NP2.
If you are going to talk details on the NP2 get it right for future members.
It's the CBR trigger from charliedatuna.com

I have the first NP2 with the trigger installed by Gene and love it.

[MIKELMIS]

I never pulled a GRT-III or CBR trigger in my life - but I can tell you the stock triggers on both my NP2's feel like 2 stages.......the second one breaks like glass , as smooth and clean as butter . I love those triggers . You see , I'm allowed that freedom - to love the triggers just the way they were made and to not want or expect anything more .

[HYspd]

yeah... I started out contrasting the NP2 versus the NP....

got distracted and deleted it... tried rewriting it, got hung up on the NP trigger because of a phobia from my first airgun and completely lost it from there on out....


glad somebody caught it...

[MIKELMIS]

oh we caught it alright ...................

[HYspd]

I always get nervous when one person replies "we"...


I reread what I wrote in my babble session about Crosman triggers and i did remember to discuss NP2 triggers....down there at the very end, long after very stopped reading...

[MIKELMIS]

we "means there was more then one of us that caught your mistake ; you know - like "we the people" etc, etc

[MIKELMIS]

on second thought , when "we " point out that you were babbling spank ( erroneous in your comments and conclusions ) ;
 perhaps it would be more pertinent to crawl under a rock then to try and de-focus on the messenger .