Author Topic: HW95L Pellet Tests (Read 20328 times))

TWBryan · « **on:** May 14, 2015, 04:05:24 PM »

Thanks to the kindness of RatRacer (Steve) I received some pellet samples today to try on my brand new HW95 Luxus. If it's ok,I'll just keep all the pellet tests confined to this thread. Rather than create multiple topics. If that not ok Mods just let me know.

First test this hot and sweaty afternoon,was with RWS Meisterkugeln (I think that's how it's spelled).
The first pellet landed high and far to the right.So I chased zero until I could land one close. Ran out of adjustment to the left so that had to be good enough.

Group #2 Got me excited,a nice tight five shot group. I guess it could be a fluke ,but it looked darn good.

Unfortunately as 3,4,and 5 show this amazing "luck" didn't last. By the time I reached target #6 I had two pellets left and I used them on the remington boar target,missed the first,hit with the second.

Not sure what to think,except that RWS isn't terribly consistant,which seems to be the case with the RWS Superdomes I've tried. The only alterations to the gun I've made is to straighten the bent tab that prevents trigger adjustment,and loosen the breech bolt and add some moly lube.

My scope could be at fault,but I've tried it against a known good scope (Leaper's Bugbuster 6X) and got the same results. There is always the 'loose nut behind the trigger' factor,but I've schooled myself pretty thoroughly to be as consistant as I can.

grauhanen · « **Reply #1 on:** May 14, 2015, 07:39:34 PM »

Those results are not surprising. The wadcutter Meisterkugeln pellets perform better at shorter distances. Try round nose pellets such as JSB or H&N Field Target Trophy. They are available in different head sizes.

TWBryan · « **Reply #2 on:** May 14, 2015, 08:34:08 PM »

I kind of figured that myself,but I had 'em to try so I did the test.

Just got back in from another pellet test using JSBs Jumbo RS. I won't bother posting the target,this gun hates JSBs. I would have gotten better groups with a shotgun.

Tomorrow if all goes well I'll be testing a couple H&N FTT pellets in different head sizes.

grauhanen · « **Reply #3 on:** May 14, 2015, 09:14:03 PM »

I've observed that on the Canadian Airgun Forum a lot of HW .22 springer shooters report that their rifles have bores that do best with larger head size pellets like the H&N FTT 5.54 and 5.55mm.

TWBryan · « **Reply #4 on:** May 14, 2015, 10:50:42 PM »

Geez,I hope mine's more reasonable.I don't know where I'd find 5.54 or larger pellets. I think the largest I've seen are 5.53.

RatRacer · « **Reply #5 on:** May 15, 2015, 07:46:54 AM »

Quote from: TWBryan on May 14, 2015, 10:50:42 PM

Geez,I hope mine's more reasonable.I don't know where I'd find 5.54 or larger pellets. I think the largest I've seen are 5.53.

I sent you some 5.55's

TWBryan · « **Reply #6 on:** May 15, 2015, 02:27:51 PM »

Ratracer,yes you did,been meaning to ask,where did you get them? I've checked all the major retailers of airgun supplies and none of them have anything more the 5.53.

Raining here this morning so no pellet test. Maybe this afternoon.

RatRacer · « **Reply #7 on:** May 15, 2015, 02:35:22 PM »

I got them at PA, 3-4 years ago, when I got my 1st p-rod.

https://www.pyramydair.com/ammo/pellets

TWBryan · « **Reply #8 on:** May 15, 2015, 02:40:20 PM »

Thanks RatRacer!

I was looking at the Barracudas for that head size,I hope this gun likes the FTTs.

TWBryan · « **Reply #9 on:** May 15, 2015, 04:32:27 PM »

Today's pellet test is with H&N FTT 5.53 ,at 30 yards with the HW95L .22

The height was off so I chased zero on the first target. Got it close and since I have no more windage adjustment in the scope I went ahead and shot the remainder of the targets. I don't think this is the pellet for the gun. My gut feeling is that it likes the head size,but wants something heavier.

Of course I have to consider this might be the fault of the loose nut behind the trigger. That always a possibility ,and in my case a probability.

I think I'll try an experiment to eliminate an equipment factor. I'll remove the scope mount and reverse it,mount the scope back in it and see if POI changes dramatically. If so I need to get a new scope mount. If not ,then I consider other causes,including me unconsciously jerking the trigger.

grauhanen · « **Reply #10 on:** May 15, 2015, 05:29:19 PM »

Quote from: TWBryan on May 15, 2015, 04:32:27 PM

Today's pellet test is with H&N FTT 5.53 ,at 30 yards with the HW95L .22

The height was off so I chased zero on the first target. Got it close and since I have no more windage adjustment in the scope I went ahead and shot the remainder of the targets. I don't think this is the pellet for the gun. My gut feeling is that it likes the head size,but wants something heavier.

Of course I have to consider this might be the fault of the loose nut behind the trigger. That always a possibility ,and in my case a probability.

I think I'll try an experiment to eliminate an equipment factor. I'll remove the scope mount and reverse it,mount the scope back in it and see if POI changes dramatically. If so I need to get a new scope mount. If not ,then I consider other causes,including me unconsciously jerking the trigger.

I haven't followed your threads and don't know what other advice you may have read or been given, but I'll ask anyway: are you using the "artillery hold" when shooting your springer? Proper hold and technique is absolutely necessary to achieve consistent accuracy.

I don't think the H&N FTT pellet at 14.66 grains is too light for a springer like the HW95. JSB .22 15.89 grain round nose pellets are available in two head sizes -- 5.51 and 5.52mm.

What kind of scope mount are you using if you can reverse it? Assuming you have a stop pin, the mount can only go one way.

TWBryan · « **Reply #11 on:** May 15, 2015, 07:42:44 PM »

Grauhanen, I have a 1-piece scope mount,when I reverse it I don't use the stop pin. Which didn't make a bit of difference by the way. The gun hates JSBs no idea why it just does. It seems to be more consistant using the H&N Barracudas than else I've tried thus far. Yes I am using the artillery hold.

Pellet test ,I shot the first four targets with the H&N FTT in 5.55 . The pellets were a snug fit,sadly I don't think the gun cared for them. I decided to switch to my H&N standard issue Barracudas for the bottom two targets. You can see where I was chasing the zero to get it back on target.The final target shows I still need to dial the scope in more,but all the holes are at least inside the large ring.

LAalex · « **Reply #12 on:** May 17, 2015, 09:46:41 AM »

The 5.53's posted the two best groups as far as I can see (targets 4 & 5). I'd give those another chance. JMO.

Scotty

Lost · « **Reply #13 on:** May 17, 2015, 01:11:11 PM »

Pardon the interruption with newb question:

Do individual guns like different pellets or is it model specific?

Could one HW95L like pellet X but another HW95L like pellet Z?
And unless the gun is shot by a machine, can the shooter be the difference? (could two different shooters get different results using the same pellet from the same individual rifle?)

Thanks
Back to regular programming.

Petey · « **Reply #14 on:** May 17, 2015, 01:26:45 PM »

Has the barrel been cleaned?...........

Happy Shhootin!
Petey

TWBryan · « **Reply #15 on:** May 17, 2015, 02:06:08 PM »

LaAlex,thanks I'll consider them.The next round of testing involves H&N Barracudas.

Lost,yes some airguns only perform their best with a certain pellet. Each gun seems to be different when it comes to that. Sometimes when a gun is altered (tuned) it's pellet preference changes.
The human factor is always in play,but given that you are using proper technique,the gun will still show a preference for certain pellet.

Petey,yup cleaned the 'cosmoline' out of the barrel before it was ever shot.

hoffy43 · « **Reply #16 on:** May 17, 2015, 02:54:41 PM »

Congrats on the HW95L. Mine was never pellet fussy after the break in period @ .177cal. Was running cphp's through her with great results. Cheap and local. Hopefully she will still be open to a variety of pellets after I vortek her. She's been down with a broken spring. I've been impressed with the H&N Field Target Trophy's out of a my tuned Big Cat. She was very accurate with them after a couple of tins, allthough she still fairs well with cphp's. My crosman 2100 pumper is dead nuts on with the H&N FTT pellets. I typically range at 30 yds. My guess is your girl is still breaking in. Good luck!

TWBryan · « **Reply #17 on:** May 17, 2015, 04:45:33 PM »

Hoffy43,Thanks I am hoping it will settle down more,it seems I have been shooting it quite a bit.

Today's pellet test,30 yard using H&N Barracudas 5.51.

On targets 1 and 2 I was trying to get it near a zero. Still making fine adjustments on 3 and a little on 4. On targets 5 and 6 I just concentrated on getting my (expletive deleted) together and shoot for a group.

I think it shoots better with them then the lighter pellets,not great. I have some 5.52's which I will try tomorrow if time permits.

hoffy43 · « **Reply #18 on:** May 17, 2015, 05:02:06 PM »

Awesome gun the HW95L! So glad I purchased mine. She was consistently taking down dime sized targets at 30 to 40 yds when I did my part from a rest. Can't wait to have her up and shooting again. Hopefully next week. How does she compare to her sister the HW77, or is it to soon to tell.

grauhanen · « **Reply #19 on:** May 17, 2015, 05:30:02 PM »

The H&N Baracuda Match .22 pellets weigh 21.14 grains. A HW95 will be shooting them at less than 600 fps, probably closer to 560 fps. Those pellets are probably more suited to PCPs.

Retry shooting 50 to 100 of each different pellet in turn. Shoot off the bench using something for a rest that will accommodate the two-way recoil. Shoot at something like 20 yards which will not be too short a range (in which case every pellet looks pretty good) and not too long that it amplifies every slight mistake. Your gun should be responsive to something in either the H&N FTT or JSB Exact Jumbo. The former are available in head sizes from 5.53, 5.54, and 5.55mm. The JSB's come in 5.51 and 5.52mm. If none of those shoot well, H&N makes a 5.50mm pellet called "Field Target" (this is not the same as Field Target Trophy) that weighs 16.36 grains. JSB Express in .22 weigh 14.35 grains.

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