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Rdsail
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Custom Bottle Mrod .25 build started
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May 11, 2015, 08:00:22 PM »
I got the parts from WAR. Bottle, Bottle adaptor and new Air tube.
My current build is a high power .25. I'm aiming for 100+ fpe.
I did had to bore out the brass fitting that connects the bottle to the bottle adaptor. It came with an opening of about ⅛ or 1/16. I did not measure it. I bore it out to .565 to match my valve throat which happens to be a WAR valve. For most people the plenum on the bottle kitshould be enough (50cc) for 50-65 fpe.
I had to modify the airtube to take .306 transfer port.
I'm still waiting for my breech and barrel to test out everything. Which is a TJ .25 26" barrel with threading and LDC. I will be putting Carbon fiber sleeve. The lead is for bullets and not pellet. I have a good assortment of casts and swags to test. All ranging from 40-65 grains.
Tube, block, bottle and 1.5 in guage.
I inlet the stock
The set up is holding air. No apparent leaks so far.
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Richmond, VA
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.177 Air Arms S400 MPR FT - 11.5 FPE - Sightron 10-50 ft
.22 Disco: BNM Breech - 22 ci 3000 Bottle Reg 1600 - 31 FPE- Hawke SW 8-32x56
Syn Brod .25 - 110fpe capable - Tuned for 85 FPE - Hawke Eclipse 6-24x50
PakProtector
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Re: Custom Bottle Mrod .25 build started
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May 12, 2015, 12:56:20 PM »
How long is the air tube?
cheers,
Douglas
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YEMX
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Re: Custom Bottle Mrod .25 build started
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May 12, 2015, 01:26:39 PM »
Did you have a custom breech made, or did you just order one from Crosman? This is something I'd like to do one of these days!!
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Rdsail
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Re: Custom Bottle Mrod .25 build started
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May 12, 2015, 02:24:31 PM »
Quote from: PakProtector on May 12, 2015, 12:56:20 PM
How long is the air tube?
cheers,
Douglas
My tube is 11 ¾ long
The breech is a .25 mrod breech
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Richmond, VA
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.177 Air Arms S400 MPR FT - 11.5 FPE - Sightron 10-50 ft
.22 Disco: BNM Breech - 22 ci 3000 Bottle Reg 1600 - 31 FPE- Hawke SW 8-32x56
Syn Brod .25 - 110fpe capable - Tuned for 85 FPE - Hawke Eclipse 6-24x50
Monkeydad1969
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Re: Custom Bottle Mrod .25 build started
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May 12, 2015, 02:58:26 PM »
What kind of shot count are you trying to get out of it at 100fpe?
Joe
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Rdsail
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Re: Custom Bottle Mrod .25 build started
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May 12, 2015, 03:03:34 PM »
to tell you the truth. I have no idea. lol
My guess is that I could get 8-10 shots. This is uncharted waters for me
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Richmond, VA
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.177 Air Arms S400 MPR FT - 11.5 FPE - Sightron 10-50 ft
.22 Disco: BNM Breech - 22 ci 3000 Bottle Reg 1600 - 31 FPE- Hawke SW 8-32x56
Syn Brod .25 - 110fpe capable - Tuned for 85 FPE - Hawke Eclipse 6-24x50
caniborrowsomeammo
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Marksman
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Re: Custom Bottle Mrod .25 build started
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May 12, 2015, 04:21:44 PM »
My .25 Mrod with as received WAR valve 25 inch bbl and stock P tube gives me ~ 8 shots @ 94 FPE max and 91 avg at 3400 fill with 53 gr slugs. I see no reason you wouldn't get at least the same or better with a heavier slug and the I assume 13 (213cc) inch tank if you dare fill to 3400.
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Rdsail
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Re: Custom Bottle Mrod .25 build started
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May 12, 2015, 04:26:46 PM »
cool. Then I should be able to get more shots. I just don't have any Idea. My porting is fairly large so it should be able to handing a lower fill pressure or so I hope.
I also will have 7in more of barrel. That will help a ton
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Richmond, VA
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.177 Air Arms S400 MPR FT - 11.5 FPE - Sightron 10-50 ft
.22 Disco: BNM Breech - 22 ci 3000 Bottle Reg 1600 - 31 FPE- Hawke SW 8-32x56
Syn Brod .25 - 110fpe capable - Tuned for 85 FPE - Hawke Eclipse 6-24x50
caniborrowsomeammo
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Marksman
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Real Name: John
Re: Custom Bottle Mrod .25 build started
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May 12, 2015, 04:31:29 PM »
My bbl is 25" TJ w/ stock shroud. After all said and done a 28" would have been better fitment wise. Maybe next time.
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SANTA ROSA, CA
Daisy Red Ryder-
up to and including:
Sumatra .25
and a buncha other darkside stuff
Now .30 Flex, what a shooter this one is.
Rdsail
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Posts: 1571
Re: Custom Bottle Mrod .25 build started
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Reply #9 on:
May 12, 2015, 04:43:08 PM »
very cool! Mine is longer than yours. But no shroud for me.
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Richmond, VA
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.177 Air Arms S400 MPR FT - 11.5 FPE - Sightron 10-50 ft
.22 Disco: BNM Breech - 22 ci 3000 Bottle Reg 1600 - 31 FPE- Hawke SW 8-32x56
Syn Brod .25 - 110fpe capable - Tuned for 85 FPE - Hawke Eclipse 6-24x50
caniborrowsomeammo
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Marksman
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Real Name: John
Re: Custom Bottle Mrod .25 build started
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May 12, 2015, 04:44:49 PM »
That's me, always the short one.
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SANTA ROSA, CA
Daisy Red Ryder-
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Sumatra .25
and a buncha other darkside stuff
Now .30 Flex, what a shooter this one is.
moorepower
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Re: Custom Bottle Mrod .25 build started
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Reply #11 on:
May 12, 2015, 05:04:36 PM »
I have a 28" TJ barrel on the bench, lets see what this can do!
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shorty
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Re: Custom Bottle Mrod .25 build started
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Reply #12 on:
May 12, 2015, 05:55:44 PM »
I really like the bottle idea. I have a synthetic stock too. How did you go about cutting the stock? I am a little concerned about it. Hole saw ?
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caniborrowsomeammo
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Marksman
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Re: Custom Bottle Mrod .25 build started
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May 12, 2015, 06:12:57 PM »
BTW, shameless plug for Shorty^^^^ - try his 2.14" dual hammer spring if he is still making them. Really.
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SANTA ROSA, CA
Daisy Red Ryder-
up to and including:
Sumatra .25
and a buncha other darkside stuff
Now .30 Flex, what a shooter this one is.
Rdsail
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Re: Custom Bottle Mrod .25 build started
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Reply #14 on:
May 12, 2015, 07:38:42 PM »
yes I used a hole saw and a round sander.
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Richmond, VA
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.177 Air Arms S400 MPR FT - 11.5 FPE - Sightron 10-50 ft
.22 Disco: BNM Breech - 22 ci 3000 Bottle Reg 1600 - 31 FPE- Hawke SW 8-32x56
Syn Brod .25 - 110fpe capable - Tuned for 85 FPE - Hawke Eclipse 6-24x50
sixshootertexan
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Re: Custom Bottle Mrod .25 build started
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May 12, 2015, 08:48:54 PM »
Looking good Dan.
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PakProtector
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Re: Custom Bottle Mrod .25 build started
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May 12, 2015, 09:58:14 PM »
I would consider slightly shorter barrels. The next one I am doing is 25" and .590 OD....but .30 pellet, not .25
cheers,
Douglas
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Ann Arbor, MI, USA
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caniborrowsomeammo
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Marksman
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Real Name: John
Re: Custom Bottle Mrod .25 build started
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Reply #17 on:
May 14, 2015, 01:32:30 AM »
With the Mrod breech are you going to use magazine or SS tray? I ask because I can't get 65 Gr to fit in mag.
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SANTA ROSA, CA
Daisy Red Ryder-
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rsterne
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Re: Custom Bottle Mrod .25 build started
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Reply #18 on:
May 14, 2015, 01:41:24 AM »
50ish gr. is about the longest for the mag....
Bob
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Re: Custom Bottle Mrod .25 build started
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Reply #19 on:
May 14, 2015, 02:56:42 AM »
For those 75 grain + slugs
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