Author Topic: Economical PCP fill tank (Read 15447 times))

thumbs · « **on:** April 18, 2015, 08:26:56 PM »

I'm getting a little tired of the pump. What is the best economical set up to fill my Discovery? Where is the best place to get this stuff? I have a scuba shop about 2 miles away but not sure if that is the way to go or not. I know I can't afford 700 bucks for a tank for sure.

thanks

Yarp · « **Reply #1 on:** April 18, 2015, 09:35:10 PM »

There are plenty of relatively fresh used tanks out there. By way of example, here's a new 2008 4500psi SCBA for @265 shipped.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Drager-4500psi-SCBA-tank-45-minute-carbon-wrapped-Unused-2008-mfg-date-65-5-SCF-/231312000514?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item35db450602
You can pick up a fill rig from a number of suppliers including MAC1, Air Tanks for Sale, and eBay.

Always check the specs and ask all questions before buying anything online, and make sure you can find a local fill before picking up a tank.

dman1114 · « **Reply #2 on:** April 18, 2015, 10:07:16 PM »

Hey check this out.....not to bad for someone that wants to get into the sport.... 150$ its got atleast a year maybe 2 left with adapter..
http://www.topgun-airguns.com/SCBA-tank-with-adapter_p_94.html

dawg11 · « **Reply #3 on:** April 18, 2015, 11:34:09 PM »

I got two used 71 cf SCBA tanks on ebay for $270 with 5 years left on them . And if you look around online you can find the parts to build the adapters for less than half what the air gun shops are getting . JUST MAKE SURE YOU CHECK THE PRESSURE SPECS !!!!! I went with safety and got 6000 psi rated fittings . My SCBA to SCUBA adapter cost me $54 and 5 mins the tape and assemble . The fill shop wanted $150 for the same thing

Swifty · « **Reply #4 on:** May 23, 2015, 09:36:28 PM »

Quote from: dman1114 on April 18, 2015, 10:07:16 PM

Hey check this out.....not to bad for someone that wants to get into the sport.... 150$ its got atleast a year maybe 2 left with adapter..
http://www.topgun-airguns.com/SCBA-tank-with-adapter_p_94.html

I bought one of these and had a great experiance with the company and the gear. It is my first tank for airguns so I don't have baseline, but still....

William · « **Reply #5 on:** May 23, 2015, 10:08:55 PM »

Quote from: Yarp on April 18, 2015, 09:35:10 PM

There are plenty of relatively fresh used tanks out there. By way of example, here's a new 2008 4500psi SCBA for @265 shipped.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Drager-4500psi-SCBA-tank-45-minute-carbon-wrapped-Unused-2008-mfg-date-65-5-SCF-/231312000514?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item35db450602
You can pick up a fill rig from a number of suppliers including MAC1, Air Tanks for Sale, and eBay.

Always check the specs and ask all questions before buying anything online, and make sure you can find a local fill before picking up a tank.

I think that is a good buy, they got at least 8 years of use left...

Tommy · « **Reply #6 on:** May 23, 2015, 10:24:47 PM »

If you are gonnastickwith the Disco like Ihave justfind a used scuba tank. It only fills to 3300 psi butwillgiveyou over 80fills. I foundone on ebay for lessthan $100 and you can get a fill apparatus for $70. A metal scuba tank does not loseits life butjust needs tobe hydroed and visual at times Ascuba shopfills mine for $6. If you need moreinfo on tanks and their inspectionslookit up on the DOT website. Ifyou needmore help you can pm me
Tom

vigilandy · « **Reply #7 on:** May 24, 2015, 01:02:27 AM »

Quote from: thumbs on April 18, 2015, 08:26:56 PM

I'm getting a little tired of the pump. What is the best economical set up to fill my Discovery? Where is the best place to get this stuff? I have a scuba shop about 2 miles away but not sure if that is the way to go or not. I know I can't afford 700 bucks for a tank for sure.

thanks

First make sure the SCUBA place will fill a tank for you and to what pressure. You don't want to spend money on equipment you can't use...

thumbs · « **Reply #8 on:** May 24, 2015, 01:43:38 AM »

I don't know if it's all around the country but around here you can't get a scuba tank filled without scuba certification. In other words you have to have taken and passed the dive classes to be a certified diver. Maybe not all over but check it out first.

Swifty · « **Reply #9 on:** May 24, 2015, 04:00:04 AM »

Befriend a fire fighter. Most of those guys are salt of the earth kinds of people. There is a good chance that if you dropped in not knowing one person in the fire house, and you didn't act like a jerk, they'd hook you up with a fill. I offered my guy a few bucks for the pizza fund and he wouldn't have it.

BTW, that link was to a bottle with a fill station and great customer service. It was priced at 150 when I bought but 175 still sounds very good.

Swifty

Edit: The hydro was 2015 also.

jeff76 · « **Reply #10 on:** May 24, 2015, 02:55:33 PM »

my local firehouse wont give me a fill, because of "liability issues" that being said im sure I simply didn't ask the right person. I just went ahead and bought a compressor. nearest scuba shop is an hour away and wont fill me up past 3300psi.

3300 psi is more than enough though for filling a disco. and most scuba shops will fill your tank without a diving cert so long as your tank has a "for paintball use only" sticker on it

William · « **Reply #11 on:** May 25, 2015, 12:54:10 AM »

Quote from: thumbs on May 24, 2015, 01:43:38 AM

I don't know if it's all around the country but around here you can't get a scuba tank filled without scuba certification. In other words you have to have taken and passed the dive classes to be a certified diver. Maybe not all over but check it out first.

Here in Mississippi, they just mark it down as AIR and Not for Diving... not sure of the exact wording! They always ask me if i have a certification, but you only need that if you use the tank for diving. So, check and make sure that if you only used it for AIR and Not Diving they may be able to fill it or they may not no they can do that. Each state probable has its own regulations!

No reason why they cannot fill a tank for you for just compressed air, some carpenters use the small 4500 tanks with regulators to make their trim guns more portable.

William

msurf · « **Reply #12 on:** June 06, 2015, 12:14:06 AM »

Quote from: dawg11 on April 18, 2015, 11:34:09 PM

I got two used 71 cf SCBA tanks on ebay for $270 with 5 years left on them . And if you look around online you can find the parts to build the adapters for less than half what the air gun shops are getting . JUST MAKE SURE YOU CHECK THE PRESSURE SPECS !!!!! I went with safety and got 6000 psi rated fittings . My SCBA to SCUBA adapter cost me $54 and 5 mins the tape and assemble . The fill shop wanted $150 for the same thing

Dawg11,
Where did you find the fittings online? Any links? Much appreciated if so!

tjcib · « **Reply #13 on:** June 06, 2015, 09:59:35 AM »

If you live near a beach community, you may be able to find used tanks on Craig's list. I am about 90 minutes from Virginia beach, and there are always items up. Some from dive shops with hydro included, others from individuals. Right now there is a 120 cuft low pressure tank for $100. For a disco, that still gives you 100+ fills per tank at its max pressure.

There is also a steel 125 cuft...but that baby is probably really heavy!

I bet if you found one that needs a hydro, the seller would meet you at a shop so you could get it then and there.

dawg11 · « **Reply #14 on:** June 07, 2015, 02:16:14 AM »

Quote from: msurf on June 06, 2015, 12:14:06 AM

Quote from: dawg11 on April 18, 2015, 11:34:09 PM

Dawg11,
Where did you find the fittings online? Any links? Much appreciated if so!

I actually went on the air tanks for sale web site and figured out the correct names for the individual parts and searched ebay and google for them found the CGA347 nipple on ebay ( any weld shop will be able to get it it was just cheaper on ebay and a dive shop in flordia had the scuba adapter cheapest

scruff75 · « **Reply #15 on:** June 12, 2015, 01:18:46 PM »

I also bought a $150 tank setup from Topgun air but by 5/4/15 the price was up to $175 which isn't bad. SO when I went to checkout I paid for UPS Ground. When I didnt receive an email saying it had shipped I called and was informed it had shipped on the 8th. But was also informed that it was shipped USPS. Will give it to the 18th to arrive. If it doesn't will be getting my money back through PayPal.
Tank is ok but gauge doesn't work. Am letting PayPal deal with seller as I am fed up.
On 6/25 as I was filling tank both female quick disconnect fittings on hose blew making the hose essentially useless. Contacted Paypal about this issue also.
In addition after filing complaint to PayPal website was changed showing new shipping rates.
If anyone has bought a tank from this person I would not stay in the same room where you are filling it!!!!

sixshootertexan · « **Reply #16 on:** June 13, 2015, 12:02:35 AM »

I'm really considering one of these tanks. It's from the same vendor as in the second post but used. Same manufacture date at half the cost.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Drager-4500psi-SCBA-tank-45-minute-carbon-wrapped-2008-mfg-date-4055698-Draeger-/371107005440?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5667b38400

LDP · « **Reply #17 on:** June 17, 2015, 01:15:00 AM »

If you are just filling the disco then save your money and dont buy a 4500 psi tank you wont need it. Just find a good used scuba tank and use that. You get plenty of fills in a disco and it has no shelf life if you do not damage it unlike carbon fiber tanks.

sr1sws · « **Reply #18 on:** June 17, 2015, 11:17:05 PM »

Quote from: LDP on June 17, 2015, 01:15:00 AM

If you are just filling the disco then save your money and dont buy a 4500 psi tank you wont need it. Just find a good used scuba tank and use that. You get plenty of fills in a disco and it has no shelf life if you do not damage it unlike carbon fiber tanks.

I started with a Disco and pump. Found SCUBA tank on Craigslist for $60 - needed hydro. SCUBA shop fills it for me $60 for 12 fills. Thank is marked "not for SCUBA" and they're happy. I bought a Ninja fill station and fill line off Amazon.

I still use this with my Marauder, which I usually fill to 2200psi. I also just bought a QB79 + 13ci Ninja tank - also fill to about 2200psi. This all works well for me, although on occasion I start thinking about setting up a cascade.

Do some research on aluminum SCUBA tanks before you buy. I forget the specifics, but tanks manufactured before date 'x' were of a different alloy that was/is prone to failure. SCUBA shops won't fill these - and yes, they can explode. Find out what the markings mean and check them before you buy.

I'd like to have a high pressure SCUBA tank - these can be filled to 3400psi or there abouts - then I'd fill the Marauder and QB to more like 3000psi.

Anyway, as long as you can get SCUBA filled, it's very serviceable for use with a Disco.

Steve

sr1sws · « **Reply #19 on:** June 17, 2015, 11:31:41 PM »

As a PSA, here's one link to info on SLC failures in aluminum tanks.

http://www.luxfercylinders.com/frequently-asked-questions/sustained-load-cracking

Quick story - Luxfer tanks made 1989 and after should not be a concern.

Steve

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