The Vortek spring will last and last!PG2 spring in my 97 lasted over 50,000 rounds.....while shooting 10.3s!PG2 in the 98 lasted almost 40,000.You are going to love the way your rifle will shoot.Good luck and let us know how it goes!
Perfect timing on that info, Brett. I've been debating between JM and Vortek piston seals for the last couple days. Your post just convinced me to try the Vac seal first. Thank you!Like you, I'm also running the JM Hornet spring in my R11, which I love. The oem HW seal seems to be getting tired, so a new Vac seal should give her some more life.-Paul
Scott, what are your thoughts on HW95 seals regarding oem vs. JM vs. Vortek?
This topic got off on springs and seals but first I will say the weather between Christmas and now is quite a bit different. Mainly wind. Do discount wind. It will drive you crazy into thinking your rifle is messed up. Now as to springs. In my belief Vortek springs last 5,000-10,000 shots. When they die they die hard. I have replaced 5 springs in a friend's RWS 34 since we installed a PG2 kit the third week of June this past year. He does shoot a lot and to the best we can tell a Vortek spring last about 5000-7500 shots before it dies. I have another friend that shoots a TX200 with a Vortek 12fpe Kit in it and he has the same results. I really like the shot cycle in the Vortek kit and recommend them. In fact I have another RWS 34 on my dinning room table with a new Vortek 12 fpe Kit (first docile 34 Kit to install) I plan to work on tomorrow. My only gripe is I think the springs should last longer. I am tempted to see if JM has a spring that is a direct swap for the Vortek spring to see if it lasts longer. The Vortek springs have never broke. They suddenly loose power and loose it dramatically and fast. When you pull the spring out to replace it, it is about 3" shorter than the new spring you are swapping in.
Quote from: Brazos on April 09, 2015, 10:11:04 PMThis topic got off on springs and seals but first I will say the weather between Christmas and now is quite a bit different. Mainly wind. Do discount wind. It will drive you crazy into thinking your rifle is messed up. Now as to springs. In my belief Vortek springs last 5,000-10,000 shots. When they die they die hard. I have replaced 5 springs in a friend's RWS 34 since we installed a PG2 kit the third week of June this past year. He does shoot a lot and to the best we can tell a Vortek spring last about 5000-7500 shots before it dies. I have another friend that shoots a TX200 with a Vortek 12fpe Kit in it and he has the same results. I really like the shot cycle in the Vortek kit and recommend them. In fact I have another RWS 34 on my dinning room table with a new Vortek 12 fpe Kit (first docile 34 Kit to install) I plan to work on tomorrow. My only gripe is I think the springs should last longer. I am tempted to see if JM has a spring that is a direct swap for the Vortek spring to see if it lasts longer. The Vortek springs have never broke. They suddenly loose power and loose it dramatically and fast. When you pull the spring out to replace it, it is about 3" shorter than the new spring you are swapping in.Hummm.....same experience I had with my PG2 kit so I'm wondering where those with "30,000 shot life" got their kits?Anywhoo......when I bought my Beeman R10 decades ago I installed a JM kit called a "soft spring kit" and after 20,000 shots determined by counting empty pellet tins and boxes the spring was still strong. After installing the JM kit the R10 was shooting 7.9 grain pellets at 910fps and after 20,000 shots the velocity was still 900fps with the 7.9 grainers. I stopped counting shots after that and the same spring went into the first R9 I bought and shot thousands of pellets. I've been real satisfied with the service I've gotten from Jim's springs and I was hoping to get similar life from the Vortex springs since they can be ordered with a certain spring count and even a selection of a few different wire gages would on a few different diameters.
My experience is the same as yours and these are all recent springs from this past year. In fact I just got two 34 springs and 1 TX spring in the mail. I like the Vortek design and springs are relatively cheap and quick to install. That said I don't believe them to last long. I honestly was looking at both the Vortek and JM websites earlier today to try and figure out if JM has a spring that would fit in the Vortek Kit. I do not know much about spring sizes but when I figure it out I want to try it. I plan to measure the new Vortek spring tomorrow before installing it in the 34 I am going to work on to see if I can match it up with a JM spring.
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