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michaelthomas · « **Reply #60 on:** February 21, 2015, 10:54:47 PM »

Believe it or not......this is way harder to do at 25y indoor......than 5 5 shots under a dime at 50 outdoor was. Overall grouping is probably less than .080". It has taken probably close to 1000 cards to pull this off.

Mike

rsterne · « **Reply #61 on:** February 21, 2015, 11:02:27 PM »

Mike, my congratulations.... That is the first time I have seen it done, and at 55 yards instead of 50, no less.... *LOL*.... Heavy Varmint Bench Rifle?....

Bob

Sfttailrdr46 · « **Reply #62 on:** February 21, 2015, 11:05:05 PM »

Some people are just chronic over achievers, I have a younger brother like that. For him if it is worth doing then it is worth overdoing to the MAX

michaelthomas · « **Reply #63 on:** February 21, 2015, 11:12:07 PM »

Thanks, guys......actually Light Varmint bench rifle. There was just a touch of R to L air movement.....probably 1mph or less.

Mike

lillysdad621 · « **Reply #64 on:** February 22, 2015, 01:44:08 PM »

what kind of rifle is it? again just to give people a point of reference...

rsterne · « **Reply #65 on:** February 22, 2015, 01:46:07 PM »

Mike builds them, pretty much from scratch.... His Heavy Varmint Bench Rifles are amazing.... and by the looks of it, the LV class are as well.... I don't think I have ever seen a photo of them, however.... *hint hint*

Bob

lillysdad621 · « **Reply #66 on:** February 22, 2015, 01:50:44 PM »

I think i found a pic of one of its rifles... its amazing!

michaelthomas · « **Reply #67 on:** February 22, 2015, 02:09:28 PM »

Thanks....

Here is a picture of a LV/HV mechanical rifle. Both LV and HV are pretty much the same.....just different power levels. LV class is limited to 10.5lbs in weight and 12FPE. HV is 15lbs in weight and 20FPE. I haven't found any benefit to a HV gun over 10.5 lbs.....so I just leave it at LV weight. It just takes a few minutes to switch power and barrels from LV to HV. I shoot .177 (JSB 8.44s) in LV at 795.....and .22 (AA 16.0gr) at 750 in HV. You can see that they are only meant to do one thing, by the lack of extra features like grips, cheek rests, butts, etc.

Wind drift with the HV gun at 25m is about half that of LV.......not quite half, but very close.

Mike

rsterne · « **Reply #68 on:** February 22, 2015, 02:17:27 PM »

What does the weight include?.... Is that massive, adjustable front rest part of it (I would think not).... Is the silver block under the blue "stock" part of the gun or the rest?.... Interesting that you find no difference between 10.5 lbs. and 15 lbs. in the HV class.... What is the blue "box" above the trigger, on top of the tube?....

Bob

Sfttailrdr46 · « **Reply #69 on:** February 22, 2015, 02:23:48 PM »

Very nice but who picks the color scheme, you build some amazing rifles Mike

michaelthomas · « **Reply #70 on:** February 22, 2015, 02:32:15 PM »

Thanks again..

Bob,

Weights are rifle including scope.

The front silver thing is what I call the shoe. We are allowed a 3" wide forend on the gun to sit in the rest. It is part of the rifle and included in the weight. The front rest or rear bag is not included in the weight of the rifle. My rest weighs about 25lbs.....and the rear bag is about 15lbs (heavy sand).

The blue box is the cocking mechanism. Pic of the internals.

Don....the customer chooses the colors.

Sfttailrdr46 · « **Reply #71 on:** February 22, 2015, 02:35:25 PM »

Mike you do great work if I ever get tired of free shooting I will have to talk to you about a bench rest rifle to play with. The only problem will be hiding it in plain sight like I do with the rest of my collection

grauhanen · « **Reply #72 on:** February 22, 2015, 04:03:44 PM »

That's a good looking BR rifle and set up. I'll bet that front rest costs about as much as a good springer.

Sfttailrdr46 · « **Reply #73 on:** February 22, 2015, 04:07:13 PM »

Grau if I'm not mistaken I think on another thread I remember Mike saying that he modeled it off of another design so it is probably another home made Michael Thomas original

MicErs · « **Reply #74 on:** February 22, 2015, 07:54:42 PM »

Quote from: michaelthomas on February 21, 2015, 10:54:47 PM

Believe it or not......this is way harder to do at 25y indoor......than 5 5 shots under a dime at 50 outdoor was. Overall grouping is probably less than .080". It has taken probably close to 1000 cards to pull this off.

Mike

Awesome shooting!

MicErs · « **Reply #75 on:** February 22, 2015, 07:58:13 PM »

Quote from: michaelthomas on February 21, 2015, 10:41:17 PM

This is at 55 yards (50m). Gun zeroed for 27y (25m). They all cover with a dime.....although the first one is by far the closest. I can post with the dime if the measurements are in doubt. To be honest.....I only took 25 shots at this distance.....I didn't spend all day trying to shoot this. I shot this for a guy that was inquiring about how one of my 12fpe bench rifles did at 50m. The conditions were very calm, and a change in that variable alone would be enough to spoil the bunch.

I did exactly as Bob suggested. I used the sighter bulls at the top to aim at.....with the shots going low.

Mike

Beautiful target. You got to be proud of that.

michaelthomas · « **Reply #76 on:** February 22, 2015, 08:16:53 PM »

Thanks again...

Don has me figured out....lol. I make all of my own stuff. If I had to buy a rifle and rest....I doubt I would be shooting benchrest.

Mike

Smoketown · « **Reply #77 on:** February 23, 2015, 03:57:11 AM »

'Cmon Mike ...

You don't just build bench guns.

I've seen photos of a drop dead gorgeous (red) FT rifle you made.

Cheers,
Smoketown

michaelthomas · « **Reply #78 on:** February 23, 2015, 01:40:22 PM »

Ya....I guess I build all kinds of stuff.

Here is kind of a neat 5 axis robotic arm I built for a local company to load and unload a second operation CNC horizontal slotting machine (made that, too). It will hold .0005" all day (and night).....it has to load pins into a collet for slotting. The collet opening is about .0025" bigger than the pin. It doesn't have any problem.

Mike

emi · « **Reply #79 on:** February 23, 2015, 03:17:32 PM »

Sub MOA? Check this: http://100mairgun.nl/post/2010/11/16-Joule-EV2-schiet-gerafeld-gaatje-op-100m.aspx

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SUB MOA at 100 yards

Author Topic: SUB MOA at 100 yards (Read 43976 times))