Author Topic: My new HW50s just arrived (Read 7094 times))

Tomcat · « **on:** February 13, 2015, 04:33:02 PM »

WooHoo!!

Only one day after ordering my HW50s, Fedex delivered it. I must say, it is a beauty in my eyes. It has the unexciting beech stock but the checkering sets it off nicely. The bluing is perfect, IMO. Overall, I like the look and feel of the rifle very much.

The weight and size of the rifle are everything I hoped it would be, slightly heavier and more robust than the HW30s, but still very easy for these old arms to carry and aim. It is much, much easier for me to hold on target offhand than with the TX200 or HW97.

After waiting a short time for the metal to warm up after the cold ride with Fedex, I ran a few cleaning patches through the barrel and picked up a tin of RWS supermag pellets. I thought maybe a heavier pellet might be easier on the still cold spring and internals of the rifle. My first shots were with open sights as the rifle came out of the box. I think there was probably some luck involved, as my first three shots at 10 Yds on a rest were touching. That is not like me with my old eyes and glasses, although I think the oped sights are very nice. I used the insert with the tapered post which was already installed from the factory.

I am not seeing any extreme roughness when cocking the gun. I will remove it from the stock to check for galling of the receiver, but I am not feeling anything which would lead me to believe this is happening. The cocking effort is quite a bit heavier than the HW30, but it will most likely get easier as the gun breaks in. I did loosen the hinge bolt just slightly, as it felt rather tight. I will undoubtedly do a lube tune after I am sure there is no reason to return the rifle.

There is just a hint of vibration or twang in the shot cycle, but not as much as I have observed on other rifles I have purchased. A lube and maybe a tighter spring guide will most likely get rid of all that. I did not observe any dieseling or smoke from the shot cycle.
If I can remember how to insert a photo, here is the result of the open sight shots and another 5 shots scoped with a leapers 3x9 (all from a rest at 10 yds).

I know some of you want to see the hardware, so here are a few pics of the new gal and her little sister the HW30s.

https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8563/15898741524_404492b9e5_c.jpg

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7330/16335039089_40df212f3c_c.jpg

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7319/16520287312_8114a74742_c.jpg

Not sure if the photos will show. If not, I will try again.

Thanks for looking and for all the help many of you gave in my recent post asking questions about the HW50s.

Good shooting everyone.

Tom

PS: OK why did the first photo show and the others did not, I thought I did the same thing for each of them. Well, at least you can click on them and see.

Motorhead · « **Reply #1 on:** February 13, 2015, 04:47:18 PM »

Congratulation on your HW50 ... Nice rifles and good shootin too

Tomcat · « **Reply #2 on:** February 13, 2015, 04:59:43 PM »

Thanks Scott. I checked out the 35's , but wanted the smaller size and weight. You suggested a better rifle though.

Motorhead · « **Reply #3 on:** February 13, 2015, 05:06:52 PM »

Quote from: Tomcat on February 13, 2015, 04:59:43 PM

Thanks Scott. I checked out the 35's , but wanted the smaller size and weight. You suggested a better rifle though.

50's are Great guns and actually had one myself for about a week

... came home with a like new one picked up at a FT match's swap meet. Shared it with my son who promptly talked me out of it on the spot

RC1947 · « **Reply #4 on:** February 13, 2015, 05:21:31 PM »

Congrats on choosing a superb rifle. It will only get better with use. RC

Calmark · « **Reply #5 on:** February 13, 2015, 07:14:51 PM »

Good stuff! It looks like the two of you are already bonding nicely.

I suspect yours won't have any galling issues since I believe Weihrauch recently added some sort of insert to alleve that problem. One tip to help lower cocking effort is to pop out the chisel detent and spring. Then you polish them up and relube and replace. Also do the fixed chisel on the compression tube between the barrel forks. You'll find the rifle will break open and close more easily. Make sure to keep the original contour and not remove metal, as this may affect lockup.

Tomcat · « **Reply #6 on:** February 13, 2015, 07:21:11 PM »

Quote from: Motorhead on February 13, 2015, 05:06:52 PM

Quote from: Tomcat on February 13, 2015, 04:59:43 PM
Thanks Scott. I checked out the 35's , but wanted the smaller size and weight. You suggested a better rifle though.
50's are Great guns and actually had one myself for about a week ... came home with a like new one picked up at a FT match's swap meet. Shared it with my son who promptly talked me out of it on the spot

I'm liking what I'm seeing so far. It probably is rather stiff cocking considering the FP it produces, but it handles so well.

Tomcat · « **Reply #7 on:** February 13, 2015, 07:23:55 PM »

Quote from: RC1947 on February 13, 2015, 05:21:31 PM

Congrats on choosing a superb rifle. It will only get better with use. RC

Thanks Randall. I'm thinking it will only get better, also. It already is better, IMO, as I just made and installed a cocking aid like the one in the pic on the HW30. Helped a lot getting the front sight out of the way of gripping the muzzle.

Tomcat · « **Reply #8 on:** February 13, 2015, 07:27:59 PM »

Quote from: Calmark on February 13, 2015, 07:14:51 PM

Good stuff! It looks like the two of you are already bonding nicely. I suspect yours won't have any galling issues since I believe Weihrauch recently added some sort of insert to alleve that problem. One tip to help lower cocking effort is to pop out the chisel detent and spring. Then you polish them up and relube and replace. Also do the fixed chisel on the compression tube between the barrel forks. You'll find the rifle will break open and close more easily. Make sure to keep the original contour and not remove metal, as this may affect lockup.

Yes Mark, I think it will be a good relationship. You are correct about the galling issue. I had to take it out of the stock and check, and there is in fact a nice nylon or delrin piece under the linkage. It is nicely lubed and seems quite smooth so I don't anticipate any problems in that are. I don't find it difficult to break the barrel open, so I think I will leave the detent alone for now. Thanks for the comments.

Tomcat · « **Reply #9 on:** February 15, 2015, 05:28:44 PM »

The more I shoot this HW50s, the more I like it. It does not display any of the roughness or gritty feeling some have described. The cocking arm has the insert that should eliminate all the previous mentioned galling issues.

I have shot several pellets, and have not found anything to shoot terribly bad. The rifle likes the JSB heavies at 10.4 gr and the RWS supermags. Others I have tried are Crosman Priemiers from Walmart (probably the least accurate, but not bad), and a couple JSB's in the 7 and 8 gr. range. The HSB 7.87 gr domes shoot very well.

For my advanced age

, I find it to be the perfect balance between weight, power, and ease of shooting, either standing or seated at a bench. I couldn't have asked for anything more perfect for my needs and wants.

Maybe I got lucky, but I have absolutely no complaints or concerns about my new rifle. I don't even think a lube tune is necessary at this time, as the spring noise is minimal, probably the least of anything I have bought new. I intend to chrony it in the next few days, and will post some results.

I have removed the barrel hinge pin and lubed the washers and pin with some moly from McCarri. I don't know that it needed to be done, but I read of a galling issue with the washers, and didn't want to take any chances. Other than that, it is hands off for now.

Thanks for looking.

cvasquez · « **Reply #10 on:** February 15, 2015, 07:47:08 PM »

You mentioned putting in a delrin type insert into the cocking linkage to help agaisnt galling.IS it possibel to take a picture of this to show everyone .I know this issue comes up alot.

Jtlittle · « **Reply #11 on:** February 15, 2015, 08:10:25 PM »

Quote from: Tomcat on February 15, 2015, 05:28:44 PM

The more I shoot this HW50s, the more I like it. It does not display any of the roughness or gritty feeling some have described. The cocking arm has the insert that should eliminate all the previous mentioned galling issues.

I have shot several pellets, and have not found anything to shoot terribly bad. The rifle likes the JSB heavies at 10.4 gr and the RWS supermags. Others I have tried are Crosman Priemiers from Walmart (probably the least accurate, but not bad), and a couple JSB's in the 7 and 8 gr. range. The HSB 7.87 gr domes shoot very well.

For my advanced age , I find it to be the perfect balance between weight, power, and ease of shooting, either standing or seated at a bench. I couldn't have asked for anything more perfect for my needs and wants.

Maybe I got lucky, but I have absolutely no complaints or concerns about my new rifle. I don't even think a lube tune is necessary at this time, as the spring noise is minimal, probably the least of anything I have bought new. I intend to chrony it in the next few days, and will post some results.

I have removed the barrel hinge pin and lubed the washers and pin with some moly from McCarri. I don't know that it needed to be done, but I read of a galling issue with the washers, and didn't want to take any chances. Other than that, it is hands off for now.

Thanks for looking.

The way it handles is why the hw50 is becoming my favorite springer also. Mine really like the JSB 7.33 and 7.87. Get the sights off and cocking is mush easier.

Tomcat · « **Reply #12 on:** February 15, 2015, 11:14:56 PM »

Quote from: cvasquez on February 15, 2015, 07:47:08 PM

You mentioned putting in a delrin type insert into the cocking linkage to help agaisnt galling.IS it possibel to take a picture of this to show everyone .I know this issue comes up alot.

I put a delrin insert in my HW30s, but apparently the factory has taken note of all the talk of galling the compression tube in the HW50s. My new HW50s came from the factory with an insert already in place. It is nearly the full length of the linkage. There is also a leaf style spring which holds the cocking linkage and the delrin or nylon insert against the compression tube. Everything works smoothly together and was well lubed from the factory. I feel Weihrauch has addressed the issue in a very good manner.

I can take the rifle from the stock tomorrow and try to get some photos which will show the factory modification.

Tomcat · « **Reply #13 on:** February 15, 2015, 11:19:34 PM »

Quote from: Jtlittle on February 15, 2015, 08:10:25 PM

Quote from: Tomcat on February 15, 2015, 05:28:44 PM
The more I shoot this HW50s, the more I like it. It does not display any of the roughness or gritty feeling some have described. The cocking arm has the insert that should eliminate all the previous mentioned galling issues.

I have shot several pellets, and have not found anything to shoot terribly bad. The rifle likes the JSB heavies at 10.4 gr and the RWS supermags. Others I have tried are Crosman Priemiers from Walmart (probably the least accurate, but not bad), and a couple JSB's in the 7 and 8 gr. range. The HSB 7.87 gr domes shoot very well.

For my advanced age , I find it to be the perfect balance between weight, power, and ease of shooting, either standing or seated at a bench. I couldn't have asked for anything more perfect for my needs and wants.

Maybe I got lucky, but I have absolutely no complaints or concerns about my new rifle. I don't even think a lube tune is necessary at this time, as the spring noise is minimal, probably the least of anything I have bought new. I intend to chrony it in the next few days, and will post some results.

I have removed the barrel hinge pin and lubed the washers and pin with some moly from McCarri. I don't know that it needed to be done, but I read of a galling issue with the washers, and didn't want to take any chances. Other than that, it is hands off for now.

Thanks for looking.

The way it handles is why the hw50 is becoming my favorite springer also. Mine really like the JSB 7.33 and 7.87. Get the sights off and cocking is mush easier.

Agreed! A beautiful rifle for sure.

Tomcat · « **Reply #14 on:** February 16, 2015, 12:52:37 PM »

I did some chrony testing today with six different pellets. All testing was for average of 10 shots about 18" from the muzzle. HW50s .177 cal.

JSB exact 8.4 gr 750.6 fps 10.5 ft lbs hi 768fps lo 741fps

RWS S dome 8.3 gr 782.8 fps 11.3 ft lbs hi 787 lo 777

RWS S mag 9.3 gr 708.7 fps 10.37 ft lbs hi 719 lo 696

Crosman hp 7.9gr 793.8 fps 11.06 ft lbs hi 802 lo 788

JSB Exact 7.87 gr 814.7 fps 11.6 ft lbs hi 818 lo 810

RWS mk 8.2 gr 797.9 fps 11.59 ft lbs hi 809 lo 791

palonej · « **Reply #15 on:** February 16, 2015, 03:29:37 PM »

She seems to be a healthy lady Tom!!
I have a funny feeling you like her a little!!!
Enjoy!

Tomcat · « **Reply #16 on:** February 16, 2015, 04:42:13 PM »

Quote from: palonej on February 16, 2015, 03:29:37 PM

She seems to be a healthy lady Tom!!
I have a funny feeling you like her a little!!!
Enjoy!

Yep, she's won my heart

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lizzard · « **Reply #17 on:** February 16, 2015, 05:41:55 PM »

Tom! my 50s shoots very well off a solid rest, but poi will be diff from off hand or hand on rest between stock. It is nice to have a springer that works off a rest, most of mine do not like rests, nice gun have fun!!!!

Tomcat · « **Reply #18 on:** February 16, 2015, 05:49:27 PM »

Quote from: lizzard on February 16, 2015, 05:41:55 PM

Tom! my 50s shoots very well off a solid rest, but poi will be diff from off hand or hand on rest between stock. It is nice to have a springer that works off a rest, most of mine do not like rests, nice gun have fun!!!!

Hi Lizzard, my poi is different every shot offhand, lol.

palonej · « **Reply #19 on:** February 16, 2015, 06:07:53 PM »

What is this off hand thing you speak of?

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