Some HW50s questions??

[Tomcat]

I'm guessing not many of us here need another gun, but don't let your want if the 50s fade. They are great rifles. I've had mine for about nine years now, rock solid and fun to shoot. About two years ago I refreshed it with a PG2 kit. Made a great rifle even better.

Thanks Mulby.  I'm still wanting the 50s.  It's the size, weight and accuracy that is so appealing.  I dislike long rifles, always favoring carbine length.  I did see AOA has a special on the 35E, which sounds like a great deal, but the size and weight is up there for what I happen to like. The walnut stock would be beautiful, I bet.

[Tomcat]

Well, I did it!!  Ordered my new HW50s.  I appreciate everyone's responses and I hope I made the right decision.  I ordered .177 cal, as I will be punching paper and backyard targets of opportunity.  I don't plan to do any hunting with it.

I will post some pics when I receive it. 

Thanks again, everyone.  Have a great day!

[RC1947]

Congrats!  I think you'll be very pleased with your new shooter. RC

[cvasquez]

After reading your first post I had to respond too. I also had the exact idea-size /handling and power. My first gun was a tuned R9 and I got rid of it within 4 months. It shook the screws loose and was extremely hold sensitive(915fps with a 7.9gr premier). Just not a fun gun. I understand now adays there are better tunes to smooth it more. But I learned from it and 7.2lb listed then adding a scope ring set and scope (not a large scope mid you) pushed the darn thing almost 9lbs. My next Springer i rebuilt and used a Maccari kit was  FWB 124. Again about the same size and weight, BUT the power was 815fps (100fps lower than the R9) and it was not hold sensitive. It didnt shake screws loose either. I still sold it off though because carrying it in the field was a bear . I didnt use a sling as I like carrying rifles. This all lead me to the idea of a slightly smaller lighter gun with similar or almost the same power. Hence the HW50s. GREAT GUN. Mine was in 22cal and it was fully tuned .It generated 600fps with a 14.3 gr JSB Express.No hold sensitive and deadly accurate just like my R7 (Which I love). IF I got it in 177cal it would put it just about on par with the FWB 124 as tuned 50s go just over 800fps. Its 6.8lbs,40.5". too .Now the cocking is more than the FWB 124 but heres what you can do. Make sure you put on a nice long muzzle brake which will assist leverage making it easier to cock. Also Vortec makes 3 differant power levels and Im sure JM can supply a kit that can turn down a bit of that power. A full tune is very very important. I know its expensive usually costing almost the price of the gun but when you understand all the things done ,it makes that gun run smoother, quieter, tighter ,and wear the minimum -its surely worth it. Im talking Sunnen Hone the cylinder, button the piston,deburring ,custom spring guide, trigger tuned,hardened steel pins etc. I even had my factory stock touched up with the finger groove routered into the forestock and real cut checkering  to make the stock fancy--(  Top gun in picture) .

[Tomcat]

Congrats!  I think you'll be very pleased with your new shooter. RC

Thanks Randall.  I hope so, too.  I'm excited to get it now that I have finally made a decision.

[Tomcat]

After reading your first post I had to respond too. I also had the exact idea-size /handling and power. My first gun was a tuned R9 and I got rid of it within 4 months. It shook the screws loose and was extremely hold sensitive(915fps with a 7.9gr premier). Just not a fun gun. I understand now adays there are better tunes to smooth it more. But I learned from it and 7.2lb listed then adding a scope ring set and scope (not a large scope mid you) pushed the darn thing almost 9lbs. My next Springer i rebuilt and used a Maccari kit was  FWB 124. Again about the same size and weight, BUT the power was 815fps (100fps lower than the R9) and it was not hold sensitive. It didnt shake screws loose either. I still sold it off though because carrying it in the field was a bear . I didnt use a sling as I like carrying rifles. This all lead me to the idea of a slightly smaller lighter gun with similar or almost the same power. Hence the HW50s. GREAT GUN. Mine was in 22cal and it was fully tuned .It generated 600fps with a 14.3 gr JSB Express.No hold sensitive and deadly accurate just like my R7 (Which I love). IF I got it in 177cal it would put it just about on par with the FWB 124 as tuned 50s go just over 800fps. Its 6.8lbs,40.5". too .Now the cocking is more than the FWB 124 but heres what you can do. Make sure you put on a nice long muzzle brake which will assist leverage making it easier to cock. Also Vortec makes 3 differant power levels and Im sure JM can supply a kit that can turn down a bit of that power. A full tune is very very important. I know its expensive usually costing almost the price of the gun but when you understand all the things done ,it makes that gun run smoother, quieter, tighter ,and wear the minimum -its surely worth it. Im talking Sunnen Hone the cylinder, button the piston,deburring ,custom spring guide, trigger tuned,hardened steel pins etc. I even had my factory stock touched up with the finger groove routered into the forestock and real cut checkering  to make the stock fancy--(  Top gun in picture) .

Hello, and thanks for responding.  I, too, started out thinking I wanted the HW50s in 22 cal, but as I researched them and thought more about the shooting I do, I decided the .177 would suit my needs better.  I agree, a tune will probably make the gun much smoother and quieter.  After checking the accuracy and deciding if everything is OK, I will probably do a polish and lube tune here at home.  If that doesn't work out well enough, I will try either a Vortek or JM kit. 

So far, I have been able to just smooth things up and make a new spring guide and get things running to my satisfaction.  Might not be the best, but it suits me, as I have never shot a rifle that was professionally tuned.  That might ruin me for doing my own work.

Again, thanks for the information.  Have a great day!

Tom

BTW, I like what you did with your stock, and the muzzle brake is a great idea for aid in cocking the rifle.

[Jtlittle]

I think you made a great decision!

[Tomcat]

I think you made a great decision!

Thanks.  I got some great news also.  I just ordered it today, and it is scheduled for delivery tomorrow.  I'm only about 100 miles from PAir.  Really excited to see it. 

[triggerfest]

I think you made a great decision!

Thanks.  I got some great news also.  I just ordered it today, and it is scheduled for delivery tomorrow.  I'm only about 100 miles from PAir.  Really excited to see it.

We too..., you know how to upload pics right 

[Tomcat]

I think you made a great decision!

Thanks.  I got some great news also.  I just ordered it today, and it is scheduled for delivery tomorrow.  I'm only about 100 miles from PAir.  Really excited to see it.

We too..., you know how to upload pics right 

I may have to work on it a little, but I think I can upload pics.  Waiting for the Fedex truck now!