Gas Ram VS. Spring Piston

[AHMSA]

Apparently gas rams have their fans...  Do you guys think the benefits are what's listed in my original post and what Ed added to the list (smoother cycle, less vibration, no spring fatigue, works better in cold weather, and no twang over most stock spring guns)? Or did I miss something?

Indeed, the problem is in a Hatsan and I'm asking about replacing the gas ram with a spring piston.  Additionally, what might be "re-buildable" and "fixable" with ease to some people, might be extremely difficult to other.

Many of the things more experienced people talk about on this site, just fly over my head.  I can shoot okay and I love shooting magnum springgers (and other guns) but I'm far from being an airgunsmith.  I have never taken apart an air rifle and I think if I ever do take one apart, I won't be able to reassemble it.

My question was more in line of which ones fail more often and if the benefits of a gas ram are worth it, if it tends to fail sooner than a coil spring.

Thanks everyone for the input.  I have learned a lot from everyone's' comments.

[silent_airman]

Apparently gas rams have their fans...  Do you guys think the benefits are what's listed in my original post and what Ed added to the list (smoother cycle, less vibration, no spring fatigue, works better in cold weather, and no twang over most stock spring guns)? Or did I miss something?

Indeed, the problem is in a Hatsan and I'm asking about replacing the gas ram with a spring piston.  Additionally, what might be "re-buildable" and "fixable" with ease to some people, might be extremely difficult to other.

Many of the things more experienced people talk about on this site, just fly over my head.  I can shoot okay and I love shooting magnum springgers (and other guns) but I'm far from being an airgunsmith.  I have never taken apart an air rifle and I think if I ever do take one apart, I won't be able to reassemble it.

My question was more in line of which ones fail more often and if the benefits of a gas ram are worth it, if it tends to fail sooner than a coil spring.

Thanks everyone for the input.  I have learned a lot from everyone's' comments.

You and I are in the same boat.  Whenever somebody starts talking technical jargon, I go right to sleep. May as well be Greek they are speaking for all the sense it makes to me. I'm Captain Klutz when it comes to anything beyond simple bolt on parts and even then it can be a struggle.  I tackled a BNM breech and shroud last summer, and to make an embarrassing story short, I had to send the mess I made back to them to get it straightened out. Fortunately they are a great company and their customer service is top notch. They sent me back all new parts and all I had to pay was the shipping. I managed to get it all working and learned a valuable lesson. Leave modding to those who have the aptitude.

The lesson served me well last summer when my Nitro Venom lost its piston. I sent it to my good friend Jeff and he replaced it and did some other tweaks and now she is super smooth. Dusky, as I call her, is the one exception to the rule. A couple years ago I replaced the barrel, which had been shortened by the previous owner, with a Trail NP shrouded barrel. I even replaced the pivot washers with a set of Gene's washers and to my amazement and joy the gun actually worked quite well. I even got a lot of compliments on how cool she looked. Crosman even copied my idea with the Varmint Prowler, which came out a few months after I posted pics of my gun on GTA lol. Hmm, maybe a lawsuit is in order.

Anyway, to finish the story, I've had some high end springers, a TX200 and a Diana 54, and I have sold the springers and kept the gassers. 'Nuff said.

[Sfttailrdr46]

  Ok I confess to being a capable tool user and although I will approach any AG tear down with hours of online research with a thread post here to ask for input on common pitfalls then proceed full speed ahead. Just did it with an S510 with good results and once me and my new to me RX2 .177  get broken I will do it again for the Gas Spring. That's just my DNA and that has been me since age 4 to present at 68 years old. At this point I can say that I like any Ag that shoots well and Accuracy is "King" in my book. I don't have enough trigger time with the RX2 to form an objective opinion about the Gas Spring yet but the RX2 is an accurate hammer so far just be aware that like all magnum "Springers" requires muscle and technique to cock.

[Booger]

Gas ram all the way!!!!

+1 but a quality Gas Ram. Maybe an RX2

[Booger]

Ok I confess to being a capable tool user

That's just my DNA and that has been me since age 4 to present at 68 years old.

My brother (RIP) said his worst mistake "was picking up a wrench", because he never put it down.

My youngest was 3 when he saw me removing vents in the trailer to clean the ducts. The next day I came home to find all the vents removed. LOL This is the boy who one day will work on my car.