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Tofazfou · « **Reply #160 on:** February 03, 2015, 02:40:00 PM »

Only Jim Chapman will have one (AoA 600 FPE big bore) this week to test and review. They aren't out yet. None of em (new big bores) are right now. This is just the 1st stage of the airguns....the INTRO if you will. Or HYPE as i call it.

And yeah, i watched J. Chapmans video of the BushBuck and something sounded a little weird when he and the gent from AoA mentioned that the gun could NOT be put on display for GOD KNOW WHAT REASON (legalities i'm sure) and of course, the gun does look like an XP. I just wish they would say that if that's the case. But i'm sure the info will all come out soon enough on ALL these new big bores.

I'm eagerly awaiting..........................

ToRmEnToR · « **Reply #161 on:** February 03, 2015, 03:00:06 PM »

If I'm guessing right, they get it from XP, re-brand, tack on hundred, or so.. What $1600 - $1800..??

Just try to get one Ranger 45 prob take six months.. And yes your name will go on waiting list..

Jobobo · « **Reply #162 on:** February 03, 2015, 03:28:34 PM »

I guessed it as an XP a few pages back. My guess is they did a licensing deal, and are using a new manufacturing facility with more capacity. They will highlight some very small changes and minimize the XP history, and call it a new evolution of big bore or something.

ToRmEnToR · « **Reply #163 on:** February 03, 2015, 04:41:17 PM »

Quote from: Tofazfou on February 03, 2015, 02:40:00 PM

And yeah, i watched J. Chapmans video of the BushBuck and something sounded a little weird when he and the gent from AoA mentioned that the gun could NOT be put on display for GOD KNOW WHAT REASON (legalities i'm sure) and of course, the gun does look like an XP. I just wish they would say that if that's the case. But i'm sure the info will all come out soon enough on ALL these new big bores.

I'm eagerly awaiting..........................

They prob couldn't put on the shelves because of the XP label on it, LOL..

LEE IN VA. · « **Reply #164 on:** February 03, 2015, 09:53:37 PM »

Part 3 from Gaylord

https://www.pyramydair.com/blog/2015/02/airforce-texan-big-bore-rifle-part-3/

jessered · « **Reply #165 on:** February 03, 2015, 10:03:12 PM »

Quote from: LEE IN VA. on February 03, 2015, 09:53:37 PM

Part 3 from Gaylord

https://www.pyramydair.com/blog/2015/02/airforce-texan-big-bore-rifle-part-3/

Still looking pretty good!

KnifeMaker · « **Reply #166 on:** February 04, 2015, 02:58:14 AM »

The accuracy they are getting right now is pretty dismal compared to what many of us are already getting with our Custom Talon/Dors.

And I worry about the L/W barrels being used for the production guns. The L/W barrels haven't proven to be good performers in Big Bores so far.

Wonder if they ever know about TJ'S Barrels?

I think if it were most of us, we would have told AF to go back and try again. LOL!!!

PakProtector · « **Reply #167 on:** February 04, 2015, 08:36:06 AM »

Quote from: KnifeMaker on February 04, 2015, 02:58:14 AM

I think if it were most of us, we would have told AF to go back and try again. LOL!!!

Already doing that the most visible way I know: not spending money on it.
cheers,
Douglas

dyotat100 · « **Reply #168 on:** February 04, 2015, 08:41:34 AM »

I talked to Mike and AF did buy 10 or so barrels from him. They want to pay next nothing for them. Mike wasn't interested so who knows where they will be getting barrels from. Don't think anybody makes a barrel that thin so who knows how the production one will shoot if they are machining down barrels real thin.

ToRmEnToR · « **Reply #169 on:** February 04, 2015, 10:26:31 AM »

Nice.. Showing some good accuracy! 1.506 at 100, .762 @ 50yd!

LEE IN VA. · « **Reply #170 on:** February 04, 2015, 01:55:13 PM »

If those groups are true I think they have an awesome gun.

bluethunder · « **Reply #171 on:** February 04, 2015, 09:41:52 PM »

They won't be. Manufacture hype. A barrel that thin will be a basket case of un-repeatable barrel harmonics. Big bullet, thin barrel equals lots of barrel whip. There's a reason that .45 cal. big bore silhouette black powder barrels are so heavy. One is to reduce recoil and the other is to reduce barrel harmonics. Air guns have to obey the same laws of physics.

echochap · « **Reply #172 on:** February 05, 2015, 09:13:48 AM »

Hi Cedric;
AOA Showed the gun when asked, but their booth is in the British Pavilion. A complaint was put in that they (AOA) were intending to show non British product (FX and their own gun).... probably a competitor, things get hot between these companies. AoA was forbidden from showing anything but product manufactured in the UK..... I think this is an overstep, as many of the scopes etc on display was not made in the UK, but Chinese in manufacture. This came at the last minute, too late for any action to address it.

To the others that are postulating that this is a rebadged gun from another manufacturer, it is not. My hunting buddy Kip Perow, has several big bores and has taken a lot of big game with them. Besides working at AOA as one of their AG gurus, he is a professional guide. This design, while admittedly having elements of several other airguns, is his creation. AOA has partnered with a US based 3rd party to manufacture the rifles, and they are in full production with first runs sold out to existing customers, but the availability should be fine as the production engine kicks fully into gear. Essentially, the Bushbuck is a gun built for an experienced airgun hunter, to what he considers his perfect gun, built by a manufacturer with high quality standards.

I'm climbing on a plane today for Texas ...... going on a multi-day hog hunt and my gun (the one from the show, is already shipped and waiting for me)!

echochap · « **Reply #173 on:** February 05, 2015, 09:33:26 AM »

Quote from: bluethunder on February 04, 2015, 09:41:52 PM

They won't be. Manufacture hype. A barrel that thin will be a basket case of un-repeatable barrel harmonics. Big bullet, thin barrel equals lots of barrel whip. There's a reason that .45 cal. big bore silhouette black powder barrels are so heavy. One is to reduce recoil and the other is to reduce barrel harmonics. Air guns have to obey the same laws of physics.

When you saw the Bushbuck did you actually measure the barrel thickness? I haven't yet, just done a visual. The barrel is no thinner than my Quackenbush, Texan, Corsair, Sam Yangs, or the half dozen other big bore rifles in my gun room. But it doesn't seem to have an impact on accuracy when I did my initial testing, and this gun has already taken a black bear, mountain lion, javalina..... and hopefully multiple hogs this week.

bubba zanetti · « **Reply #174 on:** February 05, 2015, 09:39:51 AM »

So who here is buying Texan?

BZ

StevenG · « **Reply #175 on:** February 05, 2015, 10:17:12 AM »

Quote from: echochap on February 05, 2015, 09:33:26 AM

Quote from: bluethunder on February 04, 2015, 09:41:52 PM
They won't be. Manufacture hype. A barrel that thin will be a basket case of un-repeatable barrel harmonics. Big bullet, thin barrel equals lots of barrel whip. There's a reason that .45 cal. big bore silhouette black powder barrels are so heavy. One is to reduce recoil and the other is to reduce barrel harmonics. Air guns have to obey the same laws of physics.

When you saw the Bushbuck did you actually measure the barrel thickness? I haven't yet, just done a visual. The barrel is no thinner than my Quackenbush, Texan, Corsair, Sam Yangs, or the half dozen other big bore rifles in my gun room. But it doesn't seem to have an impact on accuracy when I did my initial testing, and this gun has already taken a black bear, mountain lion, javalina..... and hopefully multiple hogs this week.

How do you have an AF Texan already?

Monkeydad1969 · « **Reply #176 on:** February 05, 2015, 10:24:00 AM »

Quote from: StevenG on February 05, 2015, 10:17:12 AM

Quote from: echochap on February 05, 2015, 09:33:26 AM
Quote from: bluethunder on February 04, 2015, 09:41:52 PM
They won't be. Manufacture hype. A barrel that thin will be a basket case of un-repeatable barrel harmonics. Big bullet, thin barrel equals lots of barrel whip. There's a reason that .45 cal. big bore silhouette black powder barrels are so heavy. One is to reduce recoil and the other is to reduce barrel harmonics. Air guns have to obey the same laws of physics.

When you saw the Bushbuck did you actually measure the barrel thickness? I haven't yet, just done a visual. The barrel is no thinner than my Quackenbush, Texan, Corsair, Sam Yangs, or the half dozen other big bore rifles in my gun room. But it doesn't seem to have an impact on accuracy when I did my initial testing, and this gun has already taken a black bear, mountain lion, javalina..... and hopefully multiple hogs this week.

How do you have an AF Texan already?

X2

bubba zanetti · « **Reply #177 on:** February 05, 2015, 11:17:06 AM »

I think he has the AOA gun or something by his writings; not the Texan.

BZ

StevenG · « **Reply #178 on:** February 05, 2015, 11:47:39 AM »

Quote from: echochap on February 05, 2015, 09:33:26 AM

The barrel is no thinner than my Quackenbush, Texan, Corsair, Sam Yangs, or the half dozen other big bore rifles in my gun room.

That quote to my reading says he has a Quakenbush, a Texan, a Corsair, more than one Sam Yang and another half a dozen big bores.

So my question was how does he already have that Texan?

bubba zanetti · « **Reply #179 on:** February 05, 2015, 12:04:29 PM »

Quote from: StevenG on February 05, 2015, 11:47:39 AM

Quote from: echochap on February 05, 2015, 09:33:26 AM

The barrel is no thinner than my Quackenbush, Texan, Corsair, Sam Yangs, or the half dozen other big bore rifles in my gun room.

That quote to my reading says he has a Quakenbush, a Texan, a Corsair, more than one Sam Yang and another half a dozen big bores.

So my question was how does he already have that Texan?

I'm a moron and missed that LOL!

BZ

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