" World's Most Powerful Production Air Rifle "

[KnifeMaker]

It would be a major disappointment in .257. The valve looks to be a standard valve so you would have condor performance and the only bump in power would be from the 34" barrel.

Smaller the bullet the harder it is to push.

Doug, we must have looked at a different picture of the gun. the valve stem is HUGE!!!

Which reminds me, did your machinist ever come thru? I mean, this R&L valve is very nice, but it isn't a Dyotat! LOL!!!

Mike

[YEMX]

I would LOVE to see what Doug could do to this "new" rifle...

[ToRmEnToR]

I am in las vegas for shot show and stopped by the airforce booth and saw their new 45 cal air rifle with 500fpe they say it shoots under one inch at 50 yards but opens up to around 3 inchs at 100 yards.
Looks like a condor only longer. Think its about 8lbs but ill try and get more info on that tomorrow.  They say 5 good shots from a fill. This one does not have any ajustments for hammer spring like the other models. They say its not ajustable at all but then told me that if you know what your  doing  you can tune it. It jist does not have the extrnal ajustment like the other rifles.

Interesting on the accuracy.. From the vid with Ton shooting it it looked like a none adj parallax scope tho.. Prob 50 yard setting..

[dyotat100]

The top hat is big but I would say the stem is the same  or real close going through the valve.

[YEMX]

Love the side lever cocking. Should be able to cock a fairly stiff spring with little effort.
Knife

Knife, this frame looks like it uses the "Gen2" trigger set up, so it probably doesn't have a much stiffer spring than a Condor.  Doug and a few others proved that the new trigger set up won't take kindly to a heavier spring.  I think Doug is right, most of the velocity, such as it is, is derived from the length of the barrel. 

[dyotat100]

3" at 100 yds is not acceptable if you ask me.

I can get the Gen 2 to work but it doesn't have as good of trigger as the Gen 1 with super sear.  Just can use my barrel riding hammer. Has to be frame riding.

[fortyshooter]

I like this thing!  Can I shoot any type of hard cast .452 bullets,as I'm reloading for .45 Colt and .45 ACP and have several types of those bullets on hand?

[KnifeMaker]

No Sir, AG bullets have to be soft. Pure, 40/1 to 20/1 in lead/tin is about it.

Knife

[KnifeMaker]

The top hat is big but I would say the stem is the same  or real close going through the valve.

Dog, blow up the pic so you can see it. The stem is as large in dia, or larger than your largest section in od. of the top hat! It's frigg'n huge!

[ToRmEnToR]

3" at 100 yds is not acceptable if you ask me.

The scope that ton is shooting is the bundled 4x32 fixed parallax at 50yd.. I would expect 100yd accuracy to suffer.. I will judge that point when we get some member reviews with quality scope..

[Nomadic Pirate]

I like this thing!  Can I shoot any type of hard cast .452 bullets,as I'm reloading for .45 Colt and .45 ACP and have several types of those bullets on hand?

.452 bullets would rattle all the way down the barrel

[PakProtector]

Its .458.

Yes indeed many, per Cedric it is a .458 rifle barrel instead of the .452 pistol tube. There are lots more boolit molds of appropriate weight in .452, given this thing's published numbers I think; getting to +900 fps is much more useful than the 700 fps it is running on the heavy slugs.
cheers,
Douglas

[dyotat100]

[quote author=KnifeMaker link=topic=81876.msg785113#msg785113 date=1421983734

Doug, blow up the pic so you can see it. The stem is as large in dia, or larger than your largest section in od. of the top hat! It's frigg'n huge!
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Maybe they changed to a blod  type valve.  But still the stem can't be even close to the size of the top hat. There isn't room inside the vavle body. Remember it is still a 18mm threaded  tank.

It's either real close to a condor valve or its a stem thru the body type valve. That would explain for the cocking step up to over come the harder cocking  with that type of valve.

They have been working on this gun for years. Talked to a friend and he said he helped fix it at LASSO in 2012. Was breaking valve stems.

[Voltar1]

Breaking stems sounds exactly like a Blodnob valve.

Put my Vulture 45 back together see if she still performs!

452 bullet mold is a great idea. Setup in the lathe and open the rear band to .458 and the front to bore riding minimum friction!

[agnoob13]

Does anyone know when this will be available to the public? I'm debating whether to save for this or a sam yang 909s for deer hunting max range will be 30 possibly even 40 yards but unlikley. Would the stock sam yang be strong enough or will I have to get it tuned?

[ToRmEnToR]

Does anyone know when this will be available to the public? I'm debating whether to save for this or a sam yang 909s for deer hunting max range will be 30 possibly even 40 yards but unlikley. Would the stock sam yang be strong enough or will I have to get it tuned?

Yang will get er done at 30 no prob

[agnoob13]

Hmm think ill snatch up a yang when they become availble then. From videos sounds a little louder but honsetly i like the looks better. The texan does like like they kind slapped a paintball tank to a barrel and tossed on a grip but maybe thats just me. On pyramyd air says outof stock /pre order they going to get more soon?

[jvanschoonhoven]

I was at shot all week and saw these the first day they showed them off. They were shooting 45 cal pistol bullets. They cast them a bit softer then normal but said off the shelf bullets run fine. I guess you get about 5 full power shots in a fill. There is no power wheel and the frame is modified for the side lever so definitely  not going to have a retrofit kit.
Accuracy  was said to be about an inch at 50 yards and about 3 inchs at 100.

[ToRmEnToR]

I'm confused now.. Is it .452 or 458? Would be nice to run same rounds as 909s..

[YEMX]

.458