901 Wiggle Gone

[Be Ready]

       Well as I posted earlier.... The new Daisy 901 had a very slight wiggle where the Butt stock and Receiver covers met. The new model 901 is a 3 piece butt stock and 2 receiver sides. The older models were 2 piece. Having one side of the receiver cover attached to the butt stock made a more solid connection. Daisy needs to go back to the 2 piece model. I ordered  2 old style stocks from daisy and changed them out. $17.00 bucks each shipped cured the wiggle I was feeling. Now the 901's are solid as a rock.  I also took a dremel and made them less grabby on the pumping. I will add the felt to the bottoms also.


On top is the new model 3 piece set-up. Bottom is old style 2 piece.... Night and day difference. Old style rules.

[Midwestairgunner]

Where can you order parts from daisy?

[Be Ready]

Where can you order parts from daisy?

Yes from Daisy.... They were quite reasonable in there pricing I thought. Ebay is another source.

[stonykill]

Where can you order parts from daisy?

Customer Service
(800) 713-2479
info@daisy.com

   I spoke with Denise the other day and she was very helpful and knew what she was doing. She sent my parts lists via email while we were on the phone.

[stonykill]

       Well as I posted earlier.... The new Daisy 901 had a very slight wiggle where the Butt stock and Receiver covers met. The new model 901 is a 3 piece butt stock and 2 receiver sides. The older models were 2 piece. Having one side of the receiver cover attached to the butt stock made a more solid connection. Daisy needs to go back to the 2 piece model. I ordered  2 old style stocks from daisy and changed them out. $17.00 bucks each shipped cured the wiggle I was feeling. Now the 901's are solid as a rock.  I also took a dremel and made them less grabby on the pumping. I will add the felt to the bottoms also.


On top is the new model 3 piece set-up. Bottom is old style 2 piece.... Night and day difference. Old style rules.

  Looks good. I may do the same. Next order.

[TleVta]

Tom, do you have the part #s for the 2-piece receivers?

[stonykill]

Tom, do you have the part #s for the 2-piece receivers?

  Stock/left receiver : 169821-001
  Right receiver : 138386=001

[K.O.]

Thanks for sharing.

Never could understand taking something that works well and changing it...

especially the durn plastic piston on the modern 2100, heck plastic is cheap they could at least have made it solid and not floppy robbing it of about 75-100 fps...

I just hope they have a lot of the old style 901 parts in stock... so those in the know can upgrade.

[stonykill]

Thanks for sharing.

Never could understand taking something that works well and changing it...

especially the durn plastic piston on the modern 2100, heck plastic is cheap they could at least have made it solid and not floppy robbing it of about 75-100 fps...

I just hope they have a lot of the old style 901 parts in stock... so those in the know can upgrade.

 I don't understand it either. I worked in the plastics molding industry for 5 years. The cost of a mold alone starts at $60 thousand dollars. Not counting all of the R & D time to work out all of the bugs in the molding process. That can easily add up to well over $100 thousand not counting the cost of the mold. So if you had something that works, it is an expensive endeavor to change the part.

   I'll have to pick up a few in case they don't have too many of them. As well as figure out how to eliminate the wiggle without replacing the part. I see where they failed on the new part. No screw bosses at the stock/receiver area like on the 880 and the 35.

[TleVta]

Thanks for the numbers. I couldn't find these parts on ebay this morning.

[stonykill]

Thanks for the numbers. I couldn't find these parts on ebay this morning.

 You are welcome.

Fleabay will rip you off big time on Daisy parts. Just go through Daisy. A $3.50 piston through Daisy is $12 on fleabay , A $10 stock through Daisy is $20 on fleabay.

 

[Be Ready]

I to don't understand the new model stocks.... It's not broke so don't fix it. Now it's broke... I hope they fix it!! I second the "go to daisy" for parts.... I had both stocks in under 48 hrs. after ordering. After looking at the new stocks.... I guess you could JB weld the left side to the stock and that might work for awhile.... I can't figure out how they saved and improved the new stock design..... I guess when they get a truck load of these back for this wiggle issue they might go back to the 2 piece model. Who knows?? 

[lillysdad621]

im sorry if im a little thick headed... i got the new 3 piece wobbly setup, but why does it wobble? it would make sense that if you tighten the stock screws unto the receivers that it should feel tight, no? please explain why it wobbles...

[DavidS]

im sorry if im a little thick headed... i got the new 3 piece wobbly setup, but why does it wobble? it would make sense that if you tighten the stock screws unto the receivers that it should feel tight, no? please explain why it wobbles...

There is some issues with tolerances, if you wish to take out the wobble you could take up the extra space in the grove where the receiver attaches to the stock with some thin tape.

It is just like with the barrels in the 880, the tolerance is a bit loose, so some will be tighter than others.

[lillysdad621]

going to use my magic barrel tape...lol

[stonykill]

im sorry if im a little thick headed... i got the new 3 piece wobbly setup, but why does it wobble? it would make sense that if you tighten the stock screws unto the receivers that it should feel tight, no? please explain why it wobbles...

There is some issues with tolerances, if you wish to take out the wobble you could take up the extra space in the grove where the receiver attaches to the stock with some thin tape.

It is just like with the barrels in the 880, the tolerance is a bit loose, so some will be tighter than others.

  I haven't torn mine down as it is so perfect I hate too. 

   But when I do I figured tape or something to remove the looseness would fix it up. Still going to order the USA stock and other 901 parts. Just not a top priority for me right now.

[BigTinBoat]

  I haven't torn mine down as it is so perfect I hate too. 

   But when I do I figured tape or something to remove the looseness would fix it up. Still going to order the USA stock and other 901 parts. Just not a top priority for me right now.

Tom,

Don't need to tear it down. In between doing my QB78 reverse bottle gun I decided to take my new 901 apart and do the piston, trigger, valve and pump tube mods. Piston is still drying, but I put the rest of the gun back together to see what I could do with the stock. Came up with a really cheap fix - Monofilament fishing line, about 40 lb test I think. All I did was put pressure downward on the stock to open the "gap" up that happens when it wiggles. I used 2 pair of pliers, stretched the line taught and pulled it down into the gap. Cut it off flush with a razor and then flipped the gun over and did the bottom side. No more wiggle. If you had side-to-side wiggle I think you could just do a complete circle around the stock with the line. You can't even tell it's there.

[stonykill]

  I haven't torn mine down as it is so perfect I hate too. 

   But when I do I figured tape or something to remove the looseness would fix it up. Still going to order the USA stock and other 901 parts. Just not a top priority for me right now.

Tom,

Don't need to tear it down. In between doing my QB78 reverse bottle gun I decided to take my new 901 apart and do the piston, trigger, valve and pump tube mods. Piston is still drying, but I put the rest of the gun back together to see what I could do with the stock. Came up with a really cheap fix - Monofilament fishing line, about 40 lb test I think. All I did was put pressure downward on the stock to open the "gap" up that happens when it wiggles. I used 2 pair of pliers, stretched the line taught and pulled it down into the gap. Cut it off flush with a razor and then flipped the gun over and did the bottom side. No more wiggle. If you had side-to-side wiggle I think you could just do a complete circle around the stock with the line. You can't even tell it's there.

 Nice! Thanks Rob!

[DavidS]

  I haven't torn mine down as it is so perfect I hate too. 

   But when I do I figured tape or something to remove the looseness would fix it up. Still going to order the USA stock and other 901 parts. Just not a top priority for me right now.

Tom,

Don't need to tear it down. In between doing my QB78 reverse bottle gun I decided to take my new 901 apart and do the piston, trigger, valve and pump tube mods. Piston is still drying, but I put the rest of the gun back together to see what I could do with the stock. Came up with a really cheap fix - Monofilament fishing line, about 40 lb test I think. All I did was put pressure downward on the stock to open the "gap" up that happens when it wiggles. I used 2 pair of pliers, stretched the line taught and pulled it down into the gap. Cut it off flush with a razor and then flipped the gun over and did the bottom side. No more wiggle. If you had side-to-side wiggle I think you could just do a complete circle around the stock with the line. You can't even tell it's there.

That is good info.   One of my all plastic 880's is now starting to develop a slight wiggle in the stock.

[BigTinBoat]

That is good info.   One of my all plastic 880's is now starting to develop a slight wiggle in the stock.

David,
On the metal 880 I had put a thin o-ring around the stock end piece to take up some wiggle. The metal compressed it real good. I tried to use the same size o-ring, but the plastic clamshell would not compress it enough. That's how I came up with the fishing line idea. I really thin O-ring likely would have worked, but I didn't have any.