Why does PCP have to pop up in a question that has absolutely nothing to do with it?I am usually an easy going guy, but c'mon man! Let's stick to the subject, please.
Quote from: silent_airman on January 09, 2015, 03:04:28 PMWhy does PCP have to pop up in a question that has absolutely nothing to do with it?I am usually an easy going guy, but c'mon man! Let's stick to the subject, please.Ok George, you ask.... It's because the man is concerned about accuracy in an air rifle. Truth be known, you are way way way more likely to get an accurate PCP rifle out of the box than you are a springer, gas or no gas IMHO and I think lots of experienced air rifle enthusiasts would agree with that statement. Also, I felt it my civic duty to tell him in a light and jovial way because I am an easy going guy as well. So, there it is.Yes, God is great. Have a great dayKyle
Quote from: Sandspike on January 10, 2015, 08:10:08 AMQuote from: silent_airman on January 09, 2015, 03:04:28 PMWhy does PCP have to pop up in a question that has absolutely nothing to do with it?I am usually an easy going guy, but c'mon man! Let's stick to the subject, please.Ok George, you ask.... It's because the man is concerned about accuracy in an air rifle. Truth be known, you are way way way more likely to get an accurate PCP rifle out of the box than you are a springer, gas or no gas IMHO and I think lots of experienced air rifle enthusiasts would agree with that statement. Also, I felt it my civic duty to tell him in a light and jovial way because I am an easy going guy as well. So, there it is.Yes, God is great. Have a great dayKyleKyle..........If I am ultra concerned with accuracy I will use my AA400MPR or my FWB C60 or my Baikal M532 or my FWB 601 or my FWB 300S, etc., etc.,etc. The reason I ask about a gas ram is because I shot one the other day and was impressed with the ease and simplicity of the concept. I asked about accuracy so I need only to buy ONCE and save the aggrivation. This thought was by no means a springboard to launch a pissin' contest. Pcp's surely have their place but it is the simplicity of the gas ram that currently has my attention and I wish to know if there is TRULY an ACCURATE ram available. If these guns are only moderate in their accuracy I won't be a player. Only accurate rifles are interesting.
George, I'm sorry to hear of the loss of your Mother. I'm dealing with the loss of my Dad on Dec. 8th. I don't like it.
A lot of how accurate it would be depends on the users ability to shoot the gas ram gun. I'm sure my 125 sniper would shoot less than 1 inch groups at 50 yards with a gas ram since it will a spring. Problem is not everyone would be able to get those groups do to the slightest change in the position and hold of the gun effects the group tremendously at 50 yards. I'm sure there is a lot of gas ram guns capable, but generally something in the 12 ft lb range from England or Germany is going to be much easier to shoot accurately. By that I mean dime size groups out 20 or even 30 yards.
Craymar , Not to be contrary but if you take 10 identically set up but different manufacturers rifles and take 10 competent shooters have each shooter set up and shoot 100 shots with each rifle and compare results and what you will find is that no matter which rifle is shot the shooter with the best and most consistent form will get the best results no matter which rifle he/she uses
you can always get a metal spring magnum springer and detune it with a shorter spring . then get a full power spring when you're ready for it . the accessories to change pressure in a gas ram cost as much or more than the gun so have deep pockets . but is you can afford all that why not go PCP ? a B50 and a pump will have more power , no recoil and cost the same or less . options options options .....What?!?! SMH. If you are not directly familiar with this type of ram please don't comment. You're just speeding poor, inaccurate, and misleading information. The adapter is $30 and you don't neccesarily need a high pressure ( and overly priced ) pcp type pump. *(&^ a bycicle tire pump will do if you can locate the proper fittings that aren't that hard to find and purchase. They ain't that much money either. I have the original Theoben pump and it is by no means a high pressure pump. Forget the Weihrauch pressure gauge. All you need is a simple $60 F1 chrony, a pellet size and weight chart, and a FPS to fpe conversion calculator found on every airgun forum known to man. With these simple tools, you can calculate pretty dang close where and what power level your RX/Hw 90 ram is shooting at. I would also like to add that if a poster makes an inquiry about a certain type of airgun, I feel it is very inappropriate and in poor taste to mention other types of airguns. This is why the forum has a personal email/private message feature. That's my rant for today. Thank you and God Bless. tjk
Quote from: Hammer47 on January 09, 2015, 12:48:59 PMWhat gas piston air rifle will give the best accuracy ? I know they will vary but certainly there has to be a prohibitive favorite.is a gas springer more accurate than a coiled steel spring springer ? and why ?
What gas piston air rifle will give the best accuracy ? I know they will vary but certainly there has to be a prohibitive favorite.
Quote from: tjk on January 11, 2015, 02:25:05 PMyou can always get a metal spring magnum springer and detune it with a shorter spring . then get a full power spring when you're ready for it . the accessories to change pressure in a gas ram cost as much or more than the gun so have deep pockets . but is you can afford all that why not go PCP ? a B50 and a pump will have more power , no recoil and cost the same or less . options options options .....What?!?! SMH. If you are not directly familiar with this type of ram please don't comment. You're just speeding poor, inaccurate, and misleading information. The adapter is $30 and you don't neccesarily need a high pressure ( and overly priced ) pcp type pump. *(&^ a bycicle tire pump will do if you can locate the proper fittings that aren't that hard to find and purchase. They ain't that much money either. I have the original Theoben pump and it is by no means a high pressure pump. Forget the Weihrauch pressure gauge. All you need is a simple $60 F1 chrony, a pellet size and weight chart, and a FPS to fpe conversion calculator found on every airgun forum known to man. With these simple tools, you can calculate pretty dang close where and what power level your RX/Hw 90 ram is shooting at. I would also like to add that if a poster makes an inquiry about a certain type of airgun, I feel it is very inappropriate and in poor taste to mention other types of airguns. This is why the forum has a personal email/private message feature. That's my rant for today. Thank you and God Bless. tjkHow much pressure you getting out of a tire pump?
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