Accuracy in a gas piston air rifle

[Hammer47]

What gas piston air  rifle will give the best accuracy ?  I know they will vary but certainly there has to be a prohibitive favorite.

[Sandspike]

Any that have PCP in their description. 

[starlingassassin]

^^^^^  i completely agree with the above post lol



but,your question cant really be answered with any absolute certainty.

because,

every gun is different,some like the artillery hold and some seem to prefer to be held tight.

all barrels are different,
2 of the same exact barrels may not like the same pellet.

and all shooters are different levels of shooting experience.


a gun that has been gone over and tweaked by someone that knows what their doing,
will generally shoot more accurately than a gun pulled right out of the box though.

[Roadworthy]

The Weihrauch HW 90 probably comes the closest out of the box.

[Minuteman]

Why does PCP have to pop up in a question that has absolutely nothing to do with it? PCP is not the do all, be all powerplant for everyone, especially for people who can only afford gas rams. Sorry to be cranky, but this to me is flaunting. Please keep PCPs in their proper gate or within context. I could see bringing it up if it was an open ended question about airguns in general, but this is not. Personally I am sick of hearing about PCP. I avoid the PCP gate for that reason.

I am usually an easy going guy, but c'mon man! Let's stick to the subject, please.

[jus Tom]

Well stated George !

[CA_Blacktail]

I only have experience in two low-end gas ram guns, a PA tuned .22 Gamo Bigcat (before Gamo started offering their IGT powerplant) and a Benjamin Varmint in .22 which I believe is the same as the Crosman Nitro Venom. To me the Crosman/Benjamin gun is less hold sensitive but both are equally as accurate. The Gamo had a sweet spot at its balance point and the Varmint shoots from anywhere just about. I'm getting one ragged hole at 15yds with the el cheapo packaged 4x scope. If I had the funds, I'd like to try an English or German thumper.

[D14Jeff]

What gas piston air  rifle will give the best accuracy ?  I know they will vary but certainly there has to be a prohibitive favorite.

is a gas springer more accurate than a coiled steel spring springer ? and why ?

[triggerfest]

Another vote for the HW90 here, especially at medium gasram pressure the HW90 performs very, very smooth. Especially in .177. Way better compared with a super duper tuned springer.

The HW90 elite trigger is the best one I've ever experienced. Even better then my Diana T06.

Dang, that reminds me I still want one 

[Sfttailrdr46]

I only have experience in two low-end gas ram guns, a PA tuned .22 Gamo Bigcat (before Gamo started offering their IGT powerplant) and a Benjamin Varmint in .22 which I believe is the same as the Crosman Nitro Venom. To me the Crosman/Benjamin gun is less hold sensitive but both are equally as accurate. The Gamo had a sweet spot at its balance point and the Varmint shoots from anywhere just about. I'm getting one ragged hole at 15yds with the el cheapo packaged 4x scope. If I had the funds, I'd like to try an English or German thumper.

Two that were not mentioned were the Beeman RX2 or the Theoben  Gas spring All three can be adjusted by tuning the pressure of the cylinder to change the fps to the pellet weight being used

[tjk]

The RX Gas Rams that I've previously owned were very consistent shooters. Because of this, they were inherently very accurate rifles that often exposed shooter error as the result of inacuracy. Once a particular pellet is set up at its own prefered power and velocity range, these rifles are dang hard to beat. The old .20 RX rifle I had ( which by the way I saw for sale on a forum classifieds) was an absolute dream shooting Benjamin Sheridan cylindricals at 14 fpe. It's like you couldn't miss with that rifle. But that was this rifles particular optimal power setting with those pellets. I loved hearing them slap tin cans and water bottles all over the target range The triggers are pretty dang good too. I liked the ability to reset it without recocking the barrel. Uncocking was also a nice feature I've found on all the R series Beeman/HW made break-barrels. They are classy guns for sure. Hth's tjk

[triggerfest]

What gas piston air  rifle will give the best accuracy ?  I know they will vary but certainly there has to be a prohibitive favorite.

is a gas springer more accurate than a coiled steel spring springer ? and why ?

I wouldn't say more accurate, because in 99% of the cases it's the shooter not the rifle that causes accuracy, but a gasram is more easy to shoot. It's not hold sensitive due to the short shot cycle and therefore it is being experienced as being more accurate...

[56S]

I believe you will find the most accurate Aiguns are spring powered and the reason has nothing to do with the powerplant.  I have both and like the feel of my NP but my springer hits the target more often.

[Hammer47]

Any that have PCP in their description. 
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Ten thousand comedians out of work and get a load of this dink.

[north country gal]

I am an experienced spring piston shooter, but have also been thinking about going with a gas ram, so thanks for the post.

I'll add a question or concern of my own. I did have the original Benjamin Nitro XL in 177 and, frankly, that thing was a nightmare. I did everything under the sun to get it to shoot and never did settle down. Okay, some guns are like that. The biggest issue for me, though, was the enormous cocking effort. As a gal, I could get the thing cocked, but I had to rest the butt stock on the bench and then use two hands to break the barrel. Darn thing wore me out. So my question is this: are all gas piston guns going to have this kind of cocking effort? Are there models out there with a little less velocity so as not to require that kind of effort?

[Sfttailrdr46]

I am an experienced spring piston shooter, but have also been thinking about going with a gas ram, so thanks for the post.

I'll add a question or concern of my own. I did have the original Benjamin Nitro XL in 177 and, frankly, that thing was a nightmare. I did everything under the sun to get it to shoot and never did settle down. Okay, some guns are like that. The biggest issue for me, though, was the enormous cocking effort. As a gal, I could get the thing cocked, but I had to rest the butt stock on the bench and then use two hands to break the barrel. Darn thing wore me out. So my question is this: are all gas piston guns going to have this kind of cocking effort? Are there models out there with a little less velocity so as not to require that kind of effort?

Yes the Beeman RX2 / Weihrauch  HW90 and the Theoben gas rams are able to have the power adjusted. The fill gas ram has a schrader valve so the HP air and the special fill probe can be used with any of the 3 or 4 stage hand pumps used for PCP. This can be used when a need to adjust the pressure  in the ram is required by the user. That is the extent of my knowledge since my RX2 .177 is on the way to me as I type and I have not ordered the fill adapter yet

[mobilehomer]

Joanie, I have a Nitro Venom Dusk and a new Trail NP2. The NP2 cocking effort is at least 30% less than the NVD.
I have read others that said it was harder. Mine is so easy that I don't have to "slap" it to break it. Just a gentle stroke gets the job done.
In a week or so, when the weather breaks a little, I will do a full review.

[ecolwell]

My HW90 in .25 is de-tuned to 21bar and is a pleasure to shoot...After installing a Vortek seal, I used my Benjamin hand pump to adjust its pressure while testing pellets...It likes the 21g H&N FTT and pushes them at 707fps average @ 21bar...

[smythsg]

The Umarex Octane can be a very accurate gas piston rifle, but is a pretty manly gun at about 9.5 lbs with scope and 26 ft lbs, requires proper hold to be really accurate.

[north country gal]

Thanks, guys. I like the option of begin able to adjust the pressure. Like I really need an another air rifle, but, then, need is a funny word.