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stevemag · « **Reply #20 on:** January 06, 2015, 03:31:48 PM »

we just did a vortek on my almost new 95 and found the seal cracked and burnt, i had a couple detonations but never dry fired it, dry firing can break the spring or damage the seal. gun feels beautiful after the vortek kit.
have you done a tissue test to see if the breech seal is ok?

Cslinger · « **Reply #21 on:** January 06, 2015, 03:42:57 PM »

Not yet. Will do the tissue test tonight. If seal is fine I will probably break it down all the way to see what the what is.

Can I assume a Vortec kit consists of a spring, guide, piston seal and piston?

Can I also assume it is more or less just a simple disassemble, dump the tube contents and replace with new contents? Just lube the spring with something applicable?

Chris

Motorhead · « **Reply #22 on:** January 06, 2015, 04:14:04 PM »

Quote from: Cslinger on January 06, 2015, 03:42:57 PM

Not yet. Will do the tissue test tonight. If seal is fine I will probably break it down all the way to see what the what is.

Can I assume a Vortec kit consists of a spring, guide, piston seal and piston? Can I also assume it is more or less just a simple disassemble, dump the tube contents and replace with new contents? Just lube the spring with something applicable?

Chris

Vortek PG2 kits come with ...
Spring and there propitiatory Twin guide/Buffer set up. ( It as already assembled as a drop in )
Small tub of synesthetic spring grease.
Piston Seal

Thats it ... no actual Piston replacement happens. No Tuning wear buttons, Moly grease etc ... are in the kit.

stevemag · « **Reply #23 on:** January 06, 2015, 04:46:47 PM »

well, mine wasn't so simple. some parts were too tight and had to be made a little smaller.

Cslinger · « **Reply #24 on:** January 06, 2015, 05:10:41 PM »

Well you know.........if it jams force it. If it breaks you needed a new one anyway.

Cslinger · « **Reply #25 on:** January 06, 2015, 10:09:16 PM »

Ok figured it out. I have a small divit / chunk missing from the piston seal. Which leads me to my embarrassing moment........................I have broken this thing totally down with little effort........................................how the heck do I get the seal off?

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Sfttailrdr46 · « **Reply #26 on:** January 06, 2015, 10:14:27 PM »

Set a small pot of water to boil that will soften the plastic enough to easily remove the seal do the same thing thing to install new seal

straightshooter · « **Reply #27 on:** January 06, 2015, 10:34:23 PM »

What caused the divit?

Cslinger · « **Reply #28 on:** January 06, 2015, 10:35:43 PM »

I do not know. Nothing in the tube seems to have caused it.

So heat and remove.

Thanks,
Chris

Cslinger · « **Reply #29 on:** January 06, 2015, 10:40:22 PM »

So now that I have this "dang" thing apart do I buy a tuning kit or just replace the seal???

Thanks,
Chris

Cslinger · « **Reply #30 on:** January 06, 2015, 10:50:32 PM »

If I go the tune route will this be pretty much all I need.

Hornet MK6-R9,10,11-HW95-85 FAC. Kit
   $79.00       ×    $79.00
[NEW-SGS R6,R9,10,77-97,HW 85-95,98, 99, New 50S-Piston Seals]
   NEW-SGS R6,R9,10,77-97,HW 85-95,98, 99, New 50S-Piston Seals 1.024-25 inch tight seal
   $15.00       ×    $15.00
Lubricant Package Deal
   $23.00       ×    $23.00

Booger · « **Reply #31 on:** January 06, 2015, 11:49:26 PM »

Quote from: Cslinger on January 06, 2015, 10:09:16 PM

Ok figured it out. I have a small divit / chunk missing from the piston seal. Which leads me to my embarrassing moment........................I have broken this thing totally down with little effort........................................how the heck do I get the seal off??

My question would be how do I get it back together.

Cslinger · « **Reply #32 on:** January 06, 2015, 11:56:06 PM »

Pesky details. I don't imagine I will have more than two maybe three extra pieces left over when I am done.....................

Sfttailrdr46 · « **Reply #33 on:** January 06, 2015, 11:57:58 PM »

Sounds like a line from the movie Doc Hollywood

Brazos · « **Reply #34 on:** January 07, 2015, 12:09:47 AM »

You will figure it out. I just took my first HW apart (R11) over the weekend and put a JM kit in it. I will say that HWs, though a nicely made gun, are more involved than my RWS or AA with the one piece trigger unit. HW goes thru a lot more trouble to accomplish the same thing. I don't know why they can't make their Rekkord trigger into a single unit like others manufacturers are doing.

I would go ahead and replace spring and all while you are in there. It will be a better shooting rifle. And use Krytox. It will be cheaper to order some Krytox 226 (or Ultimox 226 same thing, they call it Ultimox in Europe) as you don't need much and is the only lube you need. I just saw a 3/4 oz jar of Ultimox 226 on ebay for $17. You could do several rifles with that.

TOM aka critter99 · « **Reply #35 on:** January 07, 2015, 12:39:39 AM »

Quote from: Cslinger on January 06, 2015, 10:09:16 PM

Ok figured it out. I have a small divit / chunk missing from the piston seal. Which leads me to my embarrassing moment........................I have broken this thing totally down with little effort........................................how the heck do I get the seal off??

I pry em off with a fiberglass auto trim pry bar leaves no damages to piston button

http://www.harborfreight.com/Nylon-Pry-Bar-Installer-Kit-4-Pc-69668.html

geesh with a chunk that big they should have never sent that rifle out when the power checked low...then again they will do that the check is worthless from them

inside of tube not pitted looks fine???

Motorhead · « **Reply #36 on:** January 07, 2015, 01:37:51 AM »

Notch in seal .... Comes from Nick in the seals lip likely done during assembly.
* It is actually eroded by the hot fast exiting of compressed air going out past the seal NOT exiting behind pellet.

Cslinger · « **Reply #37 on:** January 07, 2015, 01:44:30 AM »

Yep best I can tell inside of the tube looks good.

So if I order the above stuff it all should be correct?

TOM aka critter99 · « **Reply #38 on:** January 07, 2015, 02:03:55 AM »

that list will work lubes seal and kit. I liked the Krytox in my HW77.

you could if the twangs not real bad if short on cash just get lubes and new seal as well

Cslinger · « **Reply #39 on:** January 07, 2015, 09:59:10 AM »

Appreciate it very much.

You know I toyed with the idea of just replacing the seal and I might but a little part of me is thinking I have this thing tore down and It was always a little harsh cocking why not just do the full monte'

Now I just need parts and the ability to get it back together. I am trying to figure out how the safety acts on the trigger pack. That is the only piece that I am not quite sure how it works.

Thanks all,
Chris

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Possible Problem With HW95 Who To Send To (Warranty??)

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