Wolf LDC Arrived!

[SpiralGroove]

So the Wolf Airgun LDC arrived for my Hatsan AT44-10-L
First impressions:
1) Looks nice
2) Pretty light given size 
3) Suppressor bore 5/16" (for a .177 cal.) 
4) Doesn't clip pellets 
5) Black finish scratches very easily.
6) Took 5 shots at friends house, he could hear the hammer/valve ping while firing, but said it echoed in the woods in front of us like
    a .22 short.  Should the gun be that loud??

I stopped after 5 shots as my friend was worried about the neighbors

Is this the NORM for a $66 LDC?? 

(Shipping back to Poland only $12.75)

Any feedback would be helpful

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[blackdiesel]

Do you have a chrony? If you're breaking the sound barrier it's going to be loud regardless of the LDC.  You need to reduce the speed below 1035-1050 so you're not making sonic booms.

[Motorhead]

5/16" or likely @ 8mm is ample for a .22 cal and much to large for .177 cal to be very effective which generally does well threw a 1/4" hole.

[SpiralGroove]

The 5/16" hole did seem a little big for a .177 to me.  Since Wolf Airguns has been getting a lot of flack for their LCD's clipping pellets, I wouldn't be surprised if they're making em a little bigger now   That's what I'd do

Dang it, forgot the crony today

On the other hand, since I just finished shooting 30 shots in my 13 yard crawl space, with & w/o the LCD, you can't hear much noise at all when it's on!! This is going to sound naive, but are sonic booms eliminated in a small space (indoors) and hence the LCD works fine or what?

Kirk

[Motorhead]

The amplitude of the sound signature leaving muzzle only changes in perception of its noise as the sound bounces back at you from the environment.
Say the DBa rating is 80 at 10 feet away ... Get closer or go into a small room or out in the open its perceived change would be due to acoustics. 

Having been around many a LDC  ... a correctly manufactured one is VERY effective 

** Do make note:
if projectile is going supersonic the SONIC CRACK Can Not be attenuated   

[SpiralGroove]

Hey Motorhead,
Thanks.....> for confirming I was sonic booming today with my AT44-10-L.  I had it pumped up to 200 bar, using JSB 10.34's, but because I had turned out the hammer (a lot) I though I would be in the high 900's.  Didn't even consider The Boom Barrier

Let me know if I missed your point

[Motorhead]

A pellet breaking the sound barrier has a VERY distinct SNAP / CRACK sound being nothing like pop from the muzzle 

[Rocker1]

Ldc guys please do not use the s word.  Thanks  David

[SpiralGroove]

Because the snap/crackle or pop was seeming in the distance and did not come from where we were standing, I can only conclude that I was unknowingly doing the wild thing with Mother Nature


PS: Sorry Thor !!!

[Rocker1]

Because the snap/crackle or pop was seeming in the distance and did not come from where we were standing, I can only conclude that I was unknowingly doing the wild thing with Mother Nature
HAHAHA No problem guys I am just as bad.  David

PS: Sorry Thor !!!

[OleTomCat]

My LDC worked well to reduce the report but clipped pretty bad, I am going to try to fix both of them tomorrow while the painters are repainting the office at work, since I am the only one who has a master key I get the job of baby sitting the painters....

[Bwalton]

Out f the testing I have done with LDC. You need to test the POI with and without the LDC nothing should change, also the FPS with and without...The report to me 65-70db is good for my backyard in the city. some like it lower then that, but that is the happy medium I feel...with no clipping, no POI change and no loss of fps.

[SpiralGroove]

Thanks Baxter, 
Yeah, the crack we experienced today can only be reduced by a good tune.  I'm hoping to get 50/60 shots around 950 fps and get under the barrier in the process.
Kirk

[mista meener]

Thanks Baxter, 
Yeah, the crack we experienced today can only be reduced by a good tune.  I'm hoping to get 50/60 shots around 950 fps and get under the barrier in the process.
Kirk

My wolf does the same thing. it is quiet by the rifle but a 22 like crack downfield being the sound barrier is broken. just use heavier pellets and you will knock 100 or so fps off. my wolf spayed shots all over in my BT 65 I drilled it out 2 sizes bigger and it helped a lot. I emailed wolf and told them what I did  and they said they will make a new one with bigger opening and send it to me

[Bwalton]

See that's the thing a larger opening is not the problem....it's inside that is the problem..

[SpiralGroove]

Baxter: Why you think drilling the LCD larger won't solve the clipping problem?   I assume he means drilling the entire length larger, not just the opening. 
My (.177) Wolf LCD could fit a .25 if centered perfectly and seems to work fine!
I can see this solution may not be best for it's sound quieting abilities, but sholuld help the clipping problem --> Right

Mista Meener:  I plan to regulate my AT44-L to get 50/60 shots at 925/950 fps (JSB 10.34 or CP 10.50).  This way I get more shots at the most accurate velocity, and remain under the "Limbo Stick".

[Bwalton]

It depends on why it is clipping...drilling the hole larger is allowing more sound and air out, which can cause dirty air behind the pellet. If it's hitting one of the baffles inside then there will be no consistent accuracy. To me the sound is not worth the inaccuracy. Hope it works out.

[D14Jeff]

good to hear the pellets aren't clipping . and good to know even with the 5/16 hole that it's still effective at collecting the lead dust from a lil .177 pellet . do you think the "duraluminium" that it's made from is strong enough to use on a strong break barrel like a hatsan 95 or 135 ?

[SpiralGroove]

Hey Baxter,
Not trying to give you a hard time, but what other reason would there be for clipping the pellet?  It's hitting a baffle which needs to be drilled larger - Right?

Hey D14Jeff, 
IMHO The Wolf LDC should not be used on a break barrel, especially the 135.  Threads would need to be cut perfectly on the barrel and the delicate LDC system couldn't handle much stress & remain functional.  We're having serious doubts their "good" for the guns they were designed for still

[lefteyeshot]

Kirk, we talked about this on our big springers. If the crack is down range how's something on the end of the barrel going to help?