Accuracy - when are you satisfied with your rifle?

[PA1911]

Hello,

I was wondering what the concensus is on what kind of accuracy we can expect from our airguns.
What group size and at what range does your rifle have to shoot before its a true keeper.

I am fairly new to airguns, and I think I expect way to much from them. 

What about you all?  Just wondering what it takes for you all to say "dang this thing can shoot "

Also, whats the most accurate rifle you own make, model, caliber, ammo

Thanks for your input

PA1911

[dk1677]

My 850 is the most accurate at up to 30 or so yards, The RS3 is very good but very hold sensitive  

[Jack]

I'm going to chime in here and say that the enjoyment is when you are happy.
A gun is an extension of you and something you should enjoy.  Don't worry so much about accuracy as fun.  Have fun first and the accuracy will follow.

[PA1911]

I dont mean to sound like Im hung up on accuracy.  Heck if Im pulling the trigger on a squirt gun Im havin fun  .  Just curious about how different shooters describe there expectations of a particular air rifle

[JonnyReb]

 I expect repeatability of a nature that lets me know where the accuracy issues lie. If i can figure out which scope, mount,  pellet, hold and have it all come together into a repeatable, respectable group (1"@30yrds or so) then i'm very satisfied with my acomplishment. Some guns can do 1/2 that group almost out of the box. Most won't. It often takes a lot of time and effort into me getting a good tight group.  Jeff

[Jay]

I'm Happy when I get 3/8" (half dime) 10 shot groups at 20yd's,I call the rifle well dialed in then. An right now the most acc. is my Gamo Whisper .177 that has been home tuned shooting mainly CPHP's an RWS Super dome's(rws only slightly better, but cphp get's the nod on price). I do think in time the Crosman XL will maybe win (with a little TLC an time for break-in).

[ezman604]

I go with JonnyReb on this one. If I can get 1" or better at 25 yards, I'm getting satisfied. I'd like to see better and that all depends a lot of time on the body behind the trigger.  
But 1" @ 25 yards is good for me to consider a nail driver.
Happy Shooting!!!!
Dave
 

[Yellowstone]

I'm happy when I can say "that" miss was me and not the gun. Man when you hit what your aiming at that's the best. $10.00 gun or $10,000.00 Man hitting what you aimed at is like moms fried chichen it don't get no better!

[Fisherdude]

I'm happy when my rifle shoots better than I can shoot> right now that's about a nickle size group at 30 yards'

[longislandhunter]

My air guns are used primarily for hunting and as we all know air gun hunting is all about accurate shot placement and for me that means head shots.  That being said I'm happy if an air gun will consistently put pellets into a target the size of  squirrel head.  Of course it goes without saying my ultimate goal is to achieve dime sized or ragged hole groups, but I can live with groups tight enough to consistently achieve accurate head shots. 


As for what rifle is my most accurate...... that title would be a tie for many of my rifles   

Jeff

[sjfrockerdude]

I would have to say that as long as I hit my target I'm aiming at(squirrel) then I'm as happy as I can be.

so far the most accurate rifle I own is my Walther Talon Magnum.

[LongIslandArcher]

My most accurate air rifles are my Crosman NPSS in .22, which I worked on extensively to shoot 1" groups at 100 yards with 14.3 grain CPHP pellets at 800+ fps; and my RWS 350 Magnum in .22, which shoots less-than-1" groups at 100 yards with a new Vortek PG2 kit and muzzlebrake.  My tuned CFXes in .22 are very accurate out to 75 yards as well.

[kp4att]

For me a pencil head shot a 30 yards is a keeper - The Marauder is doing that now... next challenge 40 yards.

/Gerald

[ccjr]

Springers - 1" @ 30 yds (I'm leaning against something to attenuate the tremors)

1377 carbines - 1/2" or less @ 20 yds (me from a rest) or with the grandkids shooting 'em

Daisy 953 - 1 hole @ 10 yds (rested)

[Predatortip]

I like pellets to be touching if not better at 25yards.

[daved]

For a springer, 70% or better on paint balls at 30 yards, PCP's need to be 90% or better out to around 50 yards.  As someone else already stated, being able to do it consistently is critical.  Current most accurate rifle is my Beeman R9 GF .177 shooting H&N FTT's.  Like the S200 it replaced, this thing just hits what I point it at, and if it doesn't, it's because I screwed up :-).  That said, the other 3 rifles I have at the moment are quite capable of meeting the standard, I just don't shoot them as much.  Later.

Dave  

[Tex]

When sighting in a springer, I first chrony using the preferred pellet.  Based on "Chair-gun" I then use the "optimum sight in range" to sight in the rifle. 

I draw circles using a penny for the targets and add a shaded dot in the center, large enough to see (about the diameter of a pellet) with the scope set on 10 or 12 power (depending on the scope). 

Using the dot as the aim point, I'm reasonably happy when I can group consistently inside the circle. 

I've had some rifles that will not meet this criteria and they get sold, traded, or given away, depending on the gun. 

I have to say also, that it takes lots of practice for this to be repeatable for me.  Some rifles (or scopes) require re-sighting as I sometimes get unexplained slight POI shifts which may be caused by other factors, like temperature, or perhaps me - something that I am not doing consistently.  That's what makes springers so interesting and fun for me.

I have only experimented at longer ranges a few times and have had less than stellar results on most occasions.  Occasionally I get lucky though.  Variable ranges and wind add additional challenges,  but can be lots of fun, especially shooting over water.

I have some CO2 and PCPs, and they are almost always more accurate, yet kind of boring to me.

I just have more fun with springers.



   

[Rocker1]

I have a couple ags that are way better than I. My son at 20 yards can make the hole just get bigger with my titan but my phantom I can generally hit what I am shooting at, and the xls I have, I can hit a drink bottle pretty consistent at 55 yards with a prop. I injoy shooting  whether i am any good or not  its kinda like racing  you know your going whether you win or not. thanks david

[a1Bogey]

Accuracy means different things to different people.  That being said, I need an AG that has a reliable degree of repeatabilty from shot to shot.  An Ag that scatters shots in a 2 inch pattern at 45 feet and everyonce in awhile puts one shot in the center of the bull is not what I called accurate.  But some people would be satisfied with that.  I want 1/2 inch and smaller at that distance.   I have several AGs that can and do shoot this.  From shot to shot.
One is a B-26, two are Crosman G-1.   Not expensive AGs but they are accurate and easy to take care of.  I mainly use the CPHP's because they are readily available almost everywhere.  The RWS Superdome is also another good pellet for my use.

To get the best shooting from the G-1s I replaced the triggers with the GRT111 trigger.

Mike.

[DMikeM]

1/2 @ 30 yards. And this weekend I was able to put 3 hole in hole @ 35 with my B40 and the shots were taken at least 1 hour apart. But the Kicker was shooting a house fly off the target that was set @ 30 yards.