please help me identify this pellet's weight

[Ooops]

Hi chaps,

Could you please help me identify the details relating to the pellet in the attachment?

Where I am at the moment there is a very poor selection of pellets and I began by operating under the misguided view that heavier pellets would give better results with a magnum gun. Consequently when I saw H&N barracuda 21.14 I grabbed several cans to compare with Gamo Match, Gamo Magnum(power) & Gamo Pro(penetration). The barracuda's seemed to be much more consistent.

And then I came across posts advising me that the shooting heavy pellets was a bad idea & various recommendations on what options people had success with in their guns.

So I need an alternative and the only other option I can find here is the one in the photo, however I've been unable to identify any details for it on line.

All a bit of a shame really as between the barracuda's where getting me some nice beginner's results. I'll have to drive to Dubai and see what they have there but in the mean time I was wondering if this would be any good.

The gun's in question are Diana 460 T06 & HW80

[AudiS4]

You can continue too shoot your 460 with barracudas. No probs. Those H&N pellets in your pic, is really old ones. Check out H&N:s site for further info. http://www.hn-sport.de/en/products/air-gun-pellets/hunting-and-field-target.html

[Ooops]

You can continue too shoot your 460 with barracudas. No probs. Those H&N pellets in your pic, is really old ones. Check out H&N:s site for further info.

Thanks AudiS4, I looked there before posting but I can't see them. Am I missing some thing?

[NickB79]

If you're in the US or Canada, go here for the largest pellet selection in the free world: https://www.pyramydair.com/ You can even sort by pellet weight and shape.

I wouldn't worry too much about shooting heavy pellets in a 460 though.  That thing is a beast, and a diet of heavy pellets shouldn't reduce spring life very much at all.

When I first started airgunning with a springer, I too was worried that I was going to "kill" my AG using the wrong pellets.  Then, after much advice here, it finally sank in that springs are consumable items with airguns.  Just like you occassionally have to replace the spark plugs or tires on your car, you occassionally will have to replace the spring in your rifle.  Even though it sounds intimidating at first, a spring compressor to open your gun is easy to build, and springs are dirt-cheap.

In short, shoot what's most accurate in your gun and enjoy it.

[Bullit]

The 460 is powerful, and will do well with the 16-18g range pellets.  The really heavy pellets (ie 20g), are better for high power PCP rifles.   If you can get a "Domed head" pellet, you'll have much better results at range, over the flat head (wadcutter) style match pellet.  I've personally never tried that style head, in mine.  Too Lite.  Generally those style pellets are lite (ie. 12g-13g), for short range target shooting, and generally shot from much lower powered rifles than you're Diana 460.
That's a nice rifle, and well worth the effort to get good pellets for it. Congrats and Good Luck to You!

[AudiS4]

You can continue too shoot your 460 with barracudas. No probs. Those H&N pellets in your pic, is really old ones. Check out H&N:s site for further info.

Thanks AudiS4, I looked there before posting but I can't see them. Am I missing some thing?

No no. Just wanted to point out the fact that they are old, and no longer manufactured by H&N. They look a bit like their Excite series, but not quite 

[Bullit]

Here's a link that may help you.  It will show the difference of pellets shot thru a 460.  You'll see that the 16-18g pellets give very good balance of fps/fpe and higher BC,,,over the heavy pellets.   You only got so much power to work with, so a good balance is worth getting from it.   Click on the "OUR TAKE" tab and it will take you to the tables they've chronied with all of the pellets that they used for comparison.  Speed is relative...so don't get hung up, if your rifle is a little faster / slower, than theirs' is. 
Hope this helps:
http://www.straightshooters.com/rws-model-460-.22-beech-w-scope.html

[Ooops]

Hi chaps,

Could you please help me identify the details relating to the pellet in the attachment?

Where I am at the moment there is a very poor selection of pellets and I began by operating under the misguided view that heavier pellets would give better results with a magnum gun. Consequently when I saw H&N barracuda 21.14 I grabbed several cans to compare with Gamo Match, Gamo Magnum(power) & Gamo Pro(penetration). The barracuda's seemed to be much more consistent.

And then I came across posts advising me that the shooting heavy pellets was a bad idea & various recommendations on what options people had success with in their guns.

So I need an alternative and the only other option I can find here is the one in the photo, however I've been unable to identify any details for it on line.

All a bit of a shame really as between the barracuda's where getting me some nice beginner's results. I'll have to drive to Dubai and see what they have there but in the mean time I was wondering if this would be any good.

The gun's in question are Diana 460 T06 & HW80

Mystery solved they're replaced by these which are 12.96gr

[Ooops]

If you're in the US or Canada, go here for the largest pellet selection in the free world: [] You can even sort by pellet weight and shape.

I wouldn't worry too much about shooting heavy pellets in a 460 though.  That thing is a beast, and a diet of heavy pellets shouldn't reduce spring life very much at all.

When I first started airgunning with a springer, I too was worried that I was going to "kill" my AG using the wrong pellets.  Then, after much advice here, it finally sank in that springs are consumable items with airguns.  Just like you occassionally have to replace the spark plugs or tires on your car, you occassionally will have to replace the spring in your rifle.  Even though it sounds intimidating at first, a spring compressor to open your gun is easy to build, and springs are dirt-cheap.

In short, shoot what's most accurate in your gun and enjoy it.

Thanks, your point is well taken, and I did panic a bit.
The thing that got me going was discovering that the factory life expectancy is circa 3,500 shots and in ten days I've fired half of that. I plan on getting a spring in as a spare, probably a JM one and I believe the life expectance on that will be much greater. Many thanks

[Ooops]

Here's a link that may help you.  It will show the difference of pellets shot thru a 460.  You'll see that the 16-18g pellets give very good balance of fps/fpe and higher BC,,,over the heavy pellets.   You only got so much power to work with, so a good balance is worth getting from it.   Click on the "X" tab and it will take you to the tables they've chronied with all of the pellets that they used for comparison.  Speed is relative...so don't get hung up, if your rifle is a little faster / slower, than theirs' is. 
Hope this helps:
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Hi Bullit,

after I got the gun I scoured many previous posts, particularly yours, noting recommendations and the same link that you've directed others to. In fact it was your advice to others on ideal pellets and weights, spring damage etc that got me questioning what I was using. Many thanks for all the great info.

With NickB79's "consumable" comment in mind I'll use up what I have and in the mean time find out if I'm legally allowed to import pellets, if not I'm stuck with what's in the market place. Sounds weird I know but when you're a foreigner working in some one else's country there are restrictions on what you can do. Perhaps the Pyramid site that Nick so kindly pointed me too will have some guidance for me on the subject.

So far I'm loving this gun and was working on 60m grouping with open sights when I sheared the pin holding the cocking leaver in line but that's all in a separate post 

Many thanks to you all, this site played an invaluable roll in helping me to not only choose and purchase the gun as well as helping me get the best from it.