Ruger Super Point .22 cal 17grain 200 count tin $5.99 in store at Wally World

[K.O.]

well they got here and I am bummed

MY .22 pumpers love them all the way out to 30 yards I am zeroed at 20 yards with CPHP 14.3s and I did not have to re zero!

So I pop  the ruger pointed in  and go with 12 pumps for 20 yards and hit the top of the quarter size bull next shot is the same hole and shot

three is touching the bottom of that hole.

25 yards and 14 pumps two touching and one ~ .125 to their left.

30 yards   16 pumps and hit center bull first shot and called it good

that was with the 14.5" barreled 1322. 

The 1322MLT loved them also out to the limits of my 30 yard range I did not do quite as well at 20 & 25 yards but got a 30 yard cloverleaf

the 1322XLT likes them also but as it is still open sights my 30 yard group grew  to over .75  my eyes just have gotten old...

so yeah for some reason they shoot well thru my pumpers

so why am I bummed well they are out of stock already and the one tin they had at the local Wally was marked over $8 as were the .22 Crosman hollows...

so I only have the two tins of 200 of them... oh they look like they could be  the biggest brother in the family with the Winchester pointed, 

which I think look to be a big brother of the Daisy pointed.


I have not tried the .177 hollow point but I am not hopeful they look to have a tilted/uneven raised hollow ring and just are poorly made I will be surprised to get better than .75 groups at 20 yards from the look of them...
 

[blackdiesel]

Okay..I wonder if these will shoot well in any guns.  The groups I get are all over the place.  Normally my Sumatra shoots just about any pellet accurately at 25 yards.

[blackdiesel]

well they got here and I am bummed

MY .22 pumpers love them all the way out to 30 yards I am zeroed at 20 yards with CPHP 14.3s and I did not have to re zero!

So I pop  the ruger pointed in  and go with 12 pumps for 20 yards and hit the top of the quarter size bull next shot is the same hole and shot

three is touching the bottom of that hole.

25 yards and 14 pumps two touching and one ~ .125 to their left.

30 yards   16 pumps and hit center bull first shot and called it good

that was with the 14.5" barreled 1322. 

The 1322MLT loved them also out to the limits of my 30 yard range I did not do quite as well at 20 & 25 yards but got a 30 yard cloverleaf

the 1322XLT likes them also but as it is still open sights my 30 yard group grew  to over .75  my eyes just have gotten old...

so yeah for some reason they shoot well thru my pumpers

so why am I bummed well they are out of stock already and the one tin they had at the local Wally was marked over $8 as were the .22 Crosman hollows...

so I only have the two tins of 200 of them... oh they look like they could be  the biggest brother in the family with the Winchester pointed, 

which I think look  the Daisy pointed.


I have not tried the .177 hollow point but I am not hopeful they look to have a tilted/uneven raised hollow ring and just are poorly made I will be surprised to get better than .75 groups at 20 yards from the look of them...

Well I have 6 tins I will sell you.  I paid $5.95 per tin and will sell them for $4.  for the 5 full tins and throw in the tin with about 30 missing. 

[K.O.]

I would go for it but the 10-15$ for shipping would make it not worth it.

I have figured out that they are made at the same plant as the Daisy pointed and hollow point will post pics to show in a few hrs.

the point is if you are willing to put on some rubber gloves and steal the other halves nail file you might get them to shoot better...


http://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=68549.0



I have a tin of the .22 daisy points that I almost got to shoot well by blunting the nose a bit and getting rid of the ring at the edge of the head.

I think the shorter Daisys over stabilize when the pellet slows and wants to stay nose up which induces wobble, the pointed design and the

ring then finish the job and they (both .177 and .22 Daisy points) do a sudden crescent out after about 15 yards in all my rifles.


I think mine are shooting the Rugers well because the length/balance  and twist is not over stabilizing at the 650- 700 fps I am sending them out at.

So just for giggles knock the point down a bit and sand or scrape the ring away and they might stay stable at pcp speeds... ?

in .177 the Winnie points shoot well for me also and they are just a lengthened daisy point also....

[K.O.]

got a few shots in with the hollow points

I picked out some of the bad ones that had a slight tilt to the front of their head and they caused 1.5" flyers outside the .75"-1" 20 yard group

the sorted pellets gave using my 953 (that pretty much will stack most pellets at 20 yards)... compared with the similar H&N hollows that do about the same at 25 yards (but no fliers)

[K.O.]

I weighed a bunch and most came out to 16.9-16.95 grains with some just a  few at 16.8 and a few at 16.85 and just one at 16.75...

here are the compare pics...

from left  Ruger .22, Daisy .22, Winchester .177, Daisy .177  ;

[K.O.]

Have not weighed the hollow points yet

though it does not show in the pic the rugers are just a touch longer than the winnies

the huge difference in quality of the H&Ns is not easy to photo and does not show well either...

from left

Ruger, Winchester, Daisy, H&N

[Rocko]

No thanks.

[zerodrop]

got a pack of the 17 grain rugers from local store for 3.84

they preformed badly in every one of my 22 caliber air rifles except the crosman 2240 rifle length pistol with hot rod valve

the thin skirt expands well under co2 pressure it seems and seals barrel well and engaged rifling very well

id buy them again specifically for that use-age but on side note i tried them in same pistol with hipac usig hpa and had bad results....makes me think that they are too thin for hpa and co2 works best with them

[Spark Master]

Noone that I know of makes 17gr pellets (like Crosman, RWS, H&N or JSB), so these Ruger pellets are something new on the market.  It looks like there is some Italian (or Spanish?) on the package, so they could be from a manufacturer in Europe trying to expand to the US market.

Can someone please write a review in the Pellet Review gate when you shoot these? 
Thanks,
Harry

the language is French. I had to take 3 miserable years of it. If I lived in Canada it would have been useful, but in NYC it is useless.

[JoeV]

The only thing I can say good about the Ruger Superpoint .22 is that they do exit the barrel. Whew! Thank goodness. After that, it anyone's guess what they will do. "Groups," as I know them, are nonexistent with this pellet. I have half a tin that may never get shot, and another still in the blister packaging that my brother bought for me. I don't have the heart to tell him they're not something my guns,like at all. It like they have a mind of their own once they leave the barrel.

[Spark Master]

The only thing I can say good about the Ruger Superpoint .22 is that they do exit the barrel. Whew! Thank goodness. After that, it anyone's guess what they will do. "Groups," as I know them, are nonexistent with this pellet. I have half a tin that may never get shot, and another still in the blister packaging that my brother bought for me. I don't have the heart to tell him they're not something my guns,like at all. It like they have a mind of their own once they leave the barrel.

I think the NP like them, not sure, only time will tell, but I put two in a row with overlap, I dropped 10-15 pellets in the same 3/4 to 1/2 inch at 58 feet, downhill. Into a steel mailbox. The gun felt different the last 10 shots. It stopped dieseling and shot flat, (i think, I am a newbie). The last 10 shots  were these pellets, they pushed in the mailbox so much the last two pierced it with almost 1/4 to 1/8 inch overlap I think.  The target was an old mail box that neighborhood kid ran into with a car. I forgot my camera in NY and was many states away, in Indy. So no pics. I know they grouped close as after I hit it once I could see the blackness of the hole in the metalic gray of the galvanized steel, then the hole got bigger No way it tumbled. Every shot I hit it with left a round dimple.

Only time will tell, maybe by the summer I will know for sure.  I am told by many, every gun has a pellet(s) that works best in it, and when you do buy a lot.

These were made in China,  umarex's better brand, RWS Super Point, is made in Germany and costs more, but if you can't hit anything with consistency then they are useless, even if they are free.

It will be interesting to see how things work for them.

[JoeV]

I feel an obligation to post a personal belief that I have. It pertains to not only air rifles, but to many objects we frequently put in our hands. This has also proven itself true more often than not....

"You perform at a higher level of accomplishment with items you have a personal confidence in."

You don't need to be a deep thinker to figure that one out. I have caught some of my biggest fish (and most fish) on lures that my friends turn their noses up to, because I fish them differently than any other baits on the box. I have confidence in them, so I treat them differently. I Shoot my brother's AR-10 better than he does, because I happen to believe in that gun as a fine instrument, and shoot it differently than he does.

All that noise being said, I know people who put down better groups in the same gun I own, with pellets I can't seem to get a handle on. I really believe it's because they believe those pellets will outperform any other pellet in their inventory. YMMV

I digress...

[Back_Roads]

 Bought a tin 2 months ago , don't recall shooting them much yet. Seemed ok for a pointed pellet ,. The deseling may have subsided due to the heavier pellet, not a bad thing.

[GP2004]

I feel an obligation to post a personal belief that I have. It pertains to not only air rifles, but to many objects we frequently put in our hands. This has also proven itself true more often than not....

"You perform at a higher level of accomplishment with items you have a personal confidence in."

You don't need to be a deep thinker to figure that one out. I have caught some of my biggest fish (and most fish) on lures that my friends turn their noses up to, because I fish them differently than any other baits on the box. I have confidence in them, so I treat them differently. I Shoot my brother's AR-10 better than he does, because I happen to believe in that gun as a fine instrument, and shoot it differently than he does.

All that noise being said, I know people who put down better groups in the same gun I own, with pellets I can't seem to get a handle on. I really believe it's because they believe those pellets will outperform any other pellet in their inventory. YMMV

I digress...

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