Most accurate AF Condor?

[Drakt]

That is a question about how you tune the gun.  You can tune it for consistency and note how many shots you get a consistent velocity at per fill.  You may fill to 2700psi, not 3k.  You may get 12 consistent shots from 930-950-30 and end at 2200psi.  You need to spend some time with the gun and adjusting it to find out.

That 930-50-30 sounds amazing, its the bell curve that i'm used to and provides good consistency throughout a shot string.
What do you need to modify to tune the condor into a bell curve rather than a slope?

Thanks for all your help guys, this forum is amazing and I'm learning a lot!

[starlingassassin]

i would try an o ring behind the tophat.
it works very well to mellow out the condor


i put one on mine the other day,
and using the chrono connect app on my phone it really seemed to level out the curve.

i filled to 2700psi and a power wheel setting of about 3 and got at least 20 shots at 980-995-980 with jsb kings.


but every gun is different so your setting may end up different.

but give the oring a try it really helps flatten the curve.

[Drakt]

What if my gun has the new spin loc tank with the manometer?
AFAIK All the top hat tricks kinda died with these tanks...

[starlingassassin]

theres nothing different about the spin loc vs non spin loc tanks,

the only difference is the addition of a gauge and foster fill nipple to the tank collar,everything else is the same on the tank.


no the tophat tricks most certainly didnt die with the new tanks.


mine is a spin loc and the oring works great 

did some more tuning today,
and with an o ring,
and a 2900psi fill,
power wheel just under 2,
i got 950-962-950 for 25 shots  im pretty happy about that,


although the baseball sized rocks i was smacking at 130yds werent as happy as i was LOL

[only1harry]

25 shots with that small a spread is really good Chris.  I have been meaning to try the o-ring behind the tophat.  Is yours regular/soft rubber or polyurethane?  What diameter o-ring are you using?

Harry

[starlingassassin]

25 shots with that small a spread is really good Chris.  I have been meaning to try the o-ring behind the tophat.  Is yours regular/soft rubber or polyurethane?  What diameter o-ring are you using?

Harry

truthfully it amazed me 

dont know if i mentioned it or not but i was shooting with jsb kings today also,
which before the oring were going 1000+fps.



the first shot was 949 on a 2900psi fill,

next 2 were 952 , 954

4th shot went 959 and then it just hovered between 959 and 962 for 21 shots,

the last 2 shots were 953 and 950.


i didnt think it would close the curve up that much but im diggin it   


the o rings i used are the breech orings for my .22 mrod,

got em from the oring store

"009 V75 black Viton  #V75009"


they look a good bit thinner than the orings ive seen other guys using on their condors,
but when they run those thick orings they have to have the preload up on 8 or 9 to get the flat curve.

but the one im using seems to work great.

[only1harry]

Thanks. Did you have to adjust the tophat out?  Mine are in a lot (around 0.070") and I may have to adjust them to make more room for the o-ring and some more travel.  Have you measured your tophat clearance?

Harry

[starlingassassin]

Thanks. Did you have to adjust the tophat out?  Mine are in a lot (around 0.070") and I may have to adjust them to make more room for the o-ring and some more travel.  Have you measured your tophat clearance?

Harry

have not measured or adjusted the tophat from how it came stock,

guess i just got lucky on that one 

[rualert]

   I shoot a Talon SS with an R&L hi-flo Condor valve in it with a 25 cal 18" barrel. I have shot 50 yard groups that were .31 C to C using JSB 25.4's. Also if your up for it, they can be easily converted to shoot 257 caliber slugs. Several people on the TAG have shot soda cans from 300 + yards all the way out to 600+ yards using the Condor and a 257 barrel. The favorite mold seems to be the Lyman for the 25 slugs, and there is a dedicated section to the 257 conversions, casting, and basically everything else you can think of there. I actually plan on getting a drop in 257 barrel from R&L for mine just for the extreme long range shooting. I have no problem hitting quart sized milk jugs at 100 yards free hand with a cheap Centerpoint 4-16X40 scope on my rig, so in 25 cal, they can, and are quite accurate. If you want the best setup you can get, contact Tony at Talon Tunes for one of his AAA Condors, and just tell him what you want, at what power level, and he will build it to your liking. Just my thoughts,

Casey

[Laz]

interesting thread! I am currently making payments on a 24" .25 Spin Lok Condor and have $200 left to go  Which will be this Friday! I don't live in the States, so getting my Condor to TT would be a bit of a hassle.

I was between the choice of a .25 SynRod or .25 Condor for my first .25. I hope I made the right choice! It's for hunting mainly. When that first guy said get anything(even the milder Mrod) over a Condor for accuracy, I was a bit bummed. But hearing your guy's results got me pumped again!

[Booger]

interesting thread! I am currently making payments on a 24" .25 Spin Lok Condor and have $200 left to go  Which will be this Friday! I don't live in the States, so getting my Condor to TT would be a bit of a hassle.

I was between the choice of a .25 SynRod or .25 Condor for my first .25. I hope I made the right choice! It's for hunting mainly. When that first guy said get anything(even the milder Mrod) over a Condor for accuracy, I was a bit bummed. But hearing your guy's results got me pumped again!

My MROD .25 was slightly more accurate than my Condor. The AirForce guns are a shooting system. I just bought a 18" .22 for my Talon Pistol just so I will not run out of pellets as fast.

[Drakt]

Lots of great info in the thread. I too have heard of Mrods being slightly o as accurate as Condor (both in. 25) but I would think it's more the exception than the rule, right?
The Mrod can print 1" grp at 50 yrds, but the Condor can do so at longer ranges, right?

[geewhiz380]

yes indeed a .25 with a shrouded 24in barrel is very accurate and plenty of power ,i had one and regret getting rid of her however she was very accurare i shot her out to 60 yds hitting my target everytime and for some reason those jsb kings black color tin works best in most pcps ,the skirt on those pellets are excellent and will group just fine .what i likie bout the airforce line is u could have from .177 to .25 cal thats four cals on one ag another thing u control the power from 600fps to 1200fps using different weight of pellets ,i like my stock with no tunes unless it came like that or i bought it used like that but stock has enough power tuning or altering ag would void warrenty that why i leave it alone lifetime warrenty ,great customer service ,im hoping they will one day make a repeater a 8 shot for .25 and 10 shot for .177 .20 and .22 ,like Harry said the stock trigger is good and no need to alter ,i did nothing to my stock trigger and found it accurate enough to group and enjoy ,many mods to add but imo i rather leave it stock if anything goes wrong it will be repaired but if it touched no repairs will be done by the airforce company ,great chioce in ag ..........jorge

[Laz]

Thanks for the info Jorge! So pumped for my .25 Condor! I plan on a mad dog stock down the road. Probably no need for power mods for me anyways. The price of slugs are stupendous!  Pellets fit my need and seeing some "groups" with the slugs was a let down... 1"+  at 50 yards, you've got to be kidding me. 

[Drakt]

Hey guys, just today I had the chance to talk with someone that tunes and has tons of airgun experience.
He told me that adding just a pre chamber to an unregulated Condor makes the shot string look more like a curve than a line, what do you guys think?
He was also talking about 5cc pre chambers, as opposed to the number we're discussing here

[geewhiz380]

Thanks for the info Jorge! So pumped for my .25 Condor! I plan on a mad dog stock down the road. Probably no need for power mods for me anyways. The price of slugs are stupendous!  Pellets fit my need and seeing some "groups" with the slugs was a let down... 1"+  at 50 yards, you've got to be kidding me. 

you welcome buddy!...maddog stock nice....slugs are good for hunting but expensive i did well with jsb kings 25.39 grain they were being slung at 940fps at pw setting 4.5 plenty shots at 3000psi  ...im gonna get another sometime in the near future....condors are hard hitters..... 

[Laz]

Well guys, made the final payment on my .25 24" Condor today so hoping to get it within a couple days!!! God the wait is killing me!!

[Booger]

Well guys, made the final payment on my .25 24" Condor today so hoping to get it within a couple days!!! God the wait is eliminating me!!

Congrats, get the Windex ready. Your nose will be up to the glass worse than my avatar. LOL

[Laz]

Thanks Jesse! Got confirmed for Wednesday delivery!!

[geewhiz380]

If noise is a problem try purchasing a r & l shroud there easy to put on or Randy will guild u (owner of store)...