250 yard Range Capable Rifle

[FrozenVapors]

Hey guys!

I've been doing some shopping throughout the week, and im looking for a pellet rifle that is capable of doing 250 yard ranges. I have been looking at the Stoeger Arms X50, and Winchester 1250, but I only know so much.

Here is my basic criteria:
- reach 250 yard targets
- spring gas chamber
- 0.177cal since all my other guns are .177

I would also prefer that it has side 20mm rails so that i can mount a side-mounted bipod. I don't really like the barel bipods, and want it to be fixed to the rifle. It wouldn't need a scope either, i already have a Leupold 4-12x50 optic I figured if side rails aren't available on a rifle, i would drill and mount my own to the stock myself..

Any suggestions are greatly appreciated!

[grumpy]

Is that a typo and you meant 25 yards ?

[FrozenVapors]

maybe 250 isn't attainable? Well then maybe 100 yard?

[Roadworthy]

There is capability and there is accuracy.  If you really want 250 yards, I'd suggest a .223 as being inexpensive to feed.  It is common in AR-15 type rifles but used in some others as well.

If you're willing to drop back to 100 yards, most airguns can do that.  The trick will be finding one that will provide consistent accuracy at that range as well as a shooter who can do it.  I have seen a claim of a 5/8" group at that range (indoors) but that is not the norm.

[FrozenVapors]

So i guess the best thing to ask then is what options do i have at 100 yards keeping the rifle itself as accurate as possible. Of course, the rifle is only as good as it's shooter

[Yarp]

Opinions vary
For lots of cash:
There are well written tails of excellent long range accuracy for high-end Condor, Daystate and Kalibergun rifles.

For considerably less cash there's some encouraging YouTube stuff on the following:
  on the cheaper side: Hatsan BT65 PCP may group well at distance (seen in .22 and .25 for about 430.00 refurbished, 580.00 new)
  on the way cheaper side: Hatsan 125 Sniper may be able to consistently hit paper at long range. (seen scoped in .22 for 260.00-300.00)

Here's a long range airgun blog from AA, written in 2012.
http://www.airgunsofarizona.com/hunting/2012/09/airguns-long-range-shooting/

Here's one of several "Best long range pcp" topics from 54, posted in 2013.
http://www.network54.com/Forum/79537/thread/1387842639/Best+long+range+pcp+rifle

Good luck.

[FrozenVapors]

awesome! Thank you so much!

[steveoh]

If you don't mind me asking… what on earth are you shooting at 250 yards?

[FrozenVapors]

haha well truth be told, im trying to step up my pellet rifle game! My friend has a competition pellet rifle and i want something to rival him without spending $1000+

Just simply as a target shooting gun.

I've been looking at the Hatsan 125 Sniper, as others have suggested and it looks as though it might be better than the Stoeger X50

[grobe1458]

sniperqty just did 308 and 360yrds with a .25 cricket. but that will require a very very good gun and a extremely good marksman

[westtexasrancher]

I love threads on 100 yard airgun shooting 

[FrozenVapors]

I will continue to do more research into this, but considering i was about to do 100 yard target practice with my older Winchester, i thought a better gun could do about double that distance. The again, with this current rifle, i was shooting about 8" higher and slightly to the right just to hit the target itself.

[westtexasrancher]

I will continue to do more research into this, but considering i was about to do 100 yard target practice with my older Winchester, i thought a better gun could do about double that distance. The again, with this current rifle, i was shooting about 8" higher and slightly to the right just to hit the target itself.

I have hit a 8" gong 9 times in a row at 260 yards using a 200$ savage .22lr. But airguns are whole nother deal. Just stick to 150 and less. They aren'tpowder burners. You have to go way up in caliber to be able to shoot several hundred yards, ans air use and noise and everything else. Just use a .22lr for the further stuff.

[Yarp]

I will continue to do more research into this, but considering i was about to do 100 yard target practice with my older Winchester, i thought a better gun could do about double that distance. The again, with this current rifle, i was shooting about 8" higher and slightly to the right just to hit the target itself.

I have hit a 8" gong 9 times in a row at 260 yards using a 200$ savage .22lr. But airguns are whole nother deal. Just stick to 150 and less. They aren'tpowder burners. You have to go way up in caliber to be able to shoot several hundred yards, ans air use and noise and everything else. Just use a .22lr for the further stuff.

Or...given the absolutely stupid cost of decent .22lr ammo, go with 223.

[westtexasrancher]

I will continue to do more research into this, but considering i was about to do 100 yard target practice with my older Winchester, i thought a better gun could do about double that distance. The again, with this current rifle, i was shooting about 8" higher and slightly to the right just to hit the target itself.

I have hit a 8" gong 9 times in a row at 260 yards using a 200$ savage .22lr. But airguns are whole nother deal. Just stick to 150 and less. They aren'tpowder burners. You have to go way up in caliber to be able to shoot several hundred yards, ans air use and noise and everything else. Just use a .22lr for the further stuff.

Or...given the absolutely stupid cost of decent .22lr ammo, go with 223.

Well I reload for that, but the sparce .22lr is still cheaper.
Plus it's more fun with a .22lr. It's too easy with a 223, even from an AR and a red dot.

[Yarp]

I will continue to do more research into this, but considering i was about to do 100 yard target practice with my older Winchester, i thought a better gun could do about double that distance. The again, with this current rifle, i was shooting about 8" higher and slightly to the right just to hit the target itself.

I have hit a 8" gong 9 times in a row at 260 yards using a 200$ savage .22lr. But airguns are whole nother deal. Just stick to 150 and less. They aren'tpowder burners. You have to go way up in caliber to be able to shoot several hundred yards, ans air use and noise and everything else. Just use a .22lr for the further stuff.

Or...given the absolutely stupid cost of decent .22lr ammo, go with 223.

Well I reload for that, but the sparce .22lr is still cheaper.
Plus it's more fun with a .22lr. It's too easy with a 223, even from an AR and a red dot.

I can only offer awe. I can barely make out paper at 250 yards, and I'm way too cheap to pay for optics good enough to make that kind of shot less than a joke.   

One of my hardest-missed friends could group on a quarter at 200 yards. Back in the 70s he held one military record or another achieved  using a minimally tricked out 03A3. Shooting with him was always instructive and always embarrassing.

[FrozenVapors]

wow! Well after looking at some things, Maybe you guys are right! Maybe i should go with a .22lr. I wonder if there are any manufacturers that make them closer to 50" in length and preferably all black. All the ones i am finding are like 36 and 37" long. Doesn't hold up top its name Long Rifle

[condor22]

wow! Well after looking at some things, Maybe you guys are right! Maybe i should go with a .22lr. I wonder if there are any manufacturers that make them closer to 50" in length and preferably all black. All the ones i am finding are like 36 and 37" long. Doesn't hold up top its name Long Rifle

 46.420 inches overall length? Beechwood euro stock, 10rd magazine, bolt action, tangent sights, 11mm dovetail rail, 22lr 28in barrel. http://www.cz-usa.com/products/view/cz-452-ultra-lux/ MSR $450.00 USD

  Would you like an optics suggestion. Clearidge  Ultra RM 3-9x32 AO, Mil Dot, Matte. http://clearidgeoptics.com/default.aspx?act=pro&opt=detail&id=851     $255.99

[FrozenVapors]

i already have a leupold scope, but this rifle looks great! Going to do some research! Thank you!

[westtexasrancher]

.22lr optimal length barrel is around 16",  you lose velocity the longer the barrel gets, if you get a really long rifle /barrel, it will hurt you in velocity. And if you shoot subs, you are close to maxing your scope out already, any slower and you will ned a 10-30moa base to be able to shoot that far.