13xx plastic breech sights and sight mods

[DavidS]

I look at the 13xx as a $100 gun.   This is because the Crosman steel breach is a necessity. Then spend some time and about $10 to $20 and you can have a good 17FPE gun (for the 1322/2289), so you end up with a $110 gun that is a lot better than the $150 to $200 MSPs and a lot easier to work on.

[stonykill]

I look at the 13xx as a $100 gun.   This is because the Crosman steel breach is a necessity. Then spend some time and about $10 to $20 and you can have a good 17FPE gun (for the 1322/2289), so you end up with a $110 gun that is a lot better than the $150 to $200 MSPs and a lot easier to work on.

  $110 without optics or a rear sight.

[DavidS]

I look at the 13xx as a $100 gun.   This is because the Crosman steel breach is a necessity. Then spend some time and about $10 to $20 and you can have a good 17FPE gun (for the 1322/2289), so you end up with a $110 gun that is a lot better than the $150 to $200 MSPs and a lot easier to work on.

  $110 without optics or a rear sight.

True.  though all you need is a low cost Daisy Red Dot (between $8.00 and $12.00 depending on where you get it).   And I do not count the optics as part of the price of the gun.

Besides you can buy a long enough screw and file the sight from the plastic breach to fit the steel breech thus costing nothing extra for sights.

And it is only $90 to $100 if you do not do any of the power mods.

[stonykill]

I look at the 13xx as a $100 gun.   This is because the Crosman steel breach is a necessity. Then spend some time and about $10 to $20 and you can have a good 17FPE gun (for the 1322/2289), so you end up with a $110 gun that is a lot better than the $150 to $200 MSPs and a lot easier to work on.

  $110 without optics or a rear sight.

True.  though all you need is a low cost Daisy Red Dot (between $8.00 and $12.00 depending on where you get it).   And I do not count the optics as part of the price of the gun.

Besides you can buy a long enough screw and file the sight from the plastic breach to fit the steel breech thus costing nothing extra for sights.

And it is only $90 to $100 if you do not do any of the power mods.

  I do not count scopes as part of the cost on a rifle. But on a pistol I do count count a decent set of sights as part of the cost. Red dot is out of the question for me as a long term solution. I want to holster my pistols. If one of them becomes a carbine that is different entirely. But I want holsterable pistols to carry around my property as I work.
   And of course my original post is about not liking the stock sights and looking for an affordable alternative. So reusing the stock rear sight that I don't care for when using it as a pistol is out of the question for me.

    I have made my stock sights usable enough for now for me. IF I decide to go steel breech on either or both I'll just not so good it up and spend $45 to $60 for a decent rear sight

[Slavia]

Same sights on my 2240.  I kept the plastic breech for economy's sake and made my own sights out of hardware store fare - square bar stock, angle iron, a brass hose fitting, and screws.  The front is the same way, with an empty CO2 capsule for the shade.  It shoots about as tight as my Marksman 2004 w/red dot (same as the P17 but older name). 

[stonykill]

Same sights on my 2240.  I kept the plastic breech for economy's sake and made my own sights out of hardware store fare - square bar stock, angle iron, a brass hose fitting, and screws.  The front is the same way, with an empty CO2 capsule for the shade.  It shoots about as tight as my Marksman 2004 w/red dot (same as the P17 but older name).

  thanks for sharing that. If it shoots as good as your 2004 it shoots good. Providing your 04 shoots like my P17 does.

   This is the kind of stuff I'm looking for. Custom creations. That floats my boat.

[K.O.]

Same sights on my 2240.  I kept the plastic breech for economy's sake and made my own sights out of hardware store fare - square bar stock, angle iron, a brass hose fitting, and screws.  The front is the same way, with an empty CO2 capsule for the shade.  It shoots about as tight as my Marksman 2004 w/red dot (same as the P17 but older name).

THAT IS FREAKIN AWSOME.

I bet that works as good as my 853 sights...

For personal taste I like to keep them as low as stock but yep I LIKE...

[Pappy]

Not sure I understand the mentality here, buy a $60 gun, and add maybe $200.00 so it sights in better?  Take the $260.00 and buy a better gun.  I looked at a couple of video reviews on your 1377, they were shooting well right of the box.  1/2" group at 10 yards?  Maybe you got a lemon, but too late to return it now.  Before I buy any air gun, I decide what I want to do with it, what discipline, then research like crazy and eventually purchase the best that I can, or want, to afford.  Make sure you get your "bang" for the buck, or should I say "phftt" for the buck.

[DavidS]

MISTAKEN POST BE GONE!

[stonykill]

Not sure I understand the mentality here, buy a $60 gun, and add maybe $200.00 so it sights in better?  Take the $260.00 and buy a better gun.  I looked at a couple of video reviews on your 1377, they were shooting well right of the box.  1/2" group at 10 yards?  Maybe you got a lemon, but too late to return it now.  Before I buy any air gun, I decide what I want to do with it, what discipline, then research like crazy and eventually purchase the best that I can, or want, to afford.  Make sure you get your "bang" for the buck, or should I say "phftt" for the buck.

   Ok , that is not at ALL what I said.

 As I said earlier in the thread SOME people will dump $300 into a 13xx. Some will invest an additional $60 to get what they want. I am the 2nd guy. Also wondering where I said dump $200 into 1 ONE gun. I did not. I said $200 for TWO guns was MORE than I wanted to spend on mods.
    AND my problem is with the stock sights. Most everyone agree's they stink. But if you read along you would have seen that I fixed that particular problem by spending 30 minutes working on each gun and spending ZERO dollars.

   For the record I'm NOT going to spend $260 on ANY air pistol... ever. New out of the box or in mods. I will carry one of these daily all spring and summer on my hip as I work the property at home. Not going to put a $260 air pistol through that kind of abuse.

[stonykill]

  now I'm off of my soap box. It erks me to no end when things written are ignored.

[K.O.]

well if any got left behind and it made its way to ebay and they did not know it was and had a low buy it now...

I bet the old stamped  M1 sight would work... anyway that is what I have been

watching for...

[stonykill]

well if any got left behind and it made its way to ebay and they did not know it was and had a low buy it now...

I bet the old stamped  M1 sight would work... anyway that is what I have been

watching for...

   I bet it would

[K.O.]

I wonder if this is for real I can not believe the price.

http://www.e-sarcoinc.com/m1m2carbinestampedrearsight.aspx

[stonykill]

I wonder if this is for real I can not believe the price.

http://www.e-sarcoinc.com/m1m2carbinestampedrearsight.aspx

 someone needs to buy it to find out 

[K.O.]

If I had not just spent my allowance on building my 1325XLT and then ordering a future 1322MLT  with next months allowance...

[breakfastchef]

Ok what gun are you going to get that is better than a 13xx for under $500?

Webley Alecto
P-Rod
1720T
Talon P

[Monkeydad1969]

Ok what gun are you going to get that is better than a 13xx for under $500?

Webley Alecto
P-Rod
1720T
Talon P

Talon P all the way.

[ericnel]

 Put a Red field scope on mine with Crosman mounts. True the barrel moves, even though mine is version 1 with metal breech, but scope moves with barrel so does pellet. Scope (4x36) used was 10 bucks on eBay. Put a carbine stock on 1377, add a sling and carry it that way. 1377 is big enough to not be real comfortable in holster if you are under 7' tall. 

[DavidS]

MISTAKEN POST BE GONE!