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Bwalton
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ONE PIECE SCOPE MOUNT?
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February 19, 2014, 04:55:12 PM »
I have read where a one piece scope mount is a must for a break barrel gun? So I bought one to try out. Has anyone else heard this?
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Re: ONE PIECE SCOPE MOUNT?
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February 19, 2014, 05:10:07 PM »
I have 1 piece and 2 piece mounts on my break barrels ... I don't know if one is necessary over the other. someone with more experience will chime in I imagine
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Re: ONE PIECE SCOPE MOUNT?
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February 19, 2014, 05:31:40 PM »
I am trying to search as to where I read it, but I do recall that it was by a well renowned person.
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Re: ONE PIECE SCOPE MOUNT?
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February 19, 2014, 05:34:42 PM »
this scope mount allows for full-sized scopes to be properly positioned on ARs with Picatinny rail uppers.
What gun are you putting it on?
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Bwalton
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Re: ONE PIECE SCOPE MOUNT?
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February 19, 2014, 06:27:04 PM »
Its going on my Octane with Picatinny rail and a 30mm scope
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Re: ONE PIECE SCOPE MOUNT?
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February 19, 2014, 06:32:07 PM »
If you have the dovetail rails on your receiver a one piece is a good way to go. It grips the rails more evenly for a more secure hold on the gun over a larger distributed area. There will also be no movement between the front and the back of the mount, eliminating the potential of flexing the scope tube. If you have a two piece mount you only have a scope stop pin on the rear one. This leaves the possibility of flex.
If you have a Weaver or Picatinny rail on your gun it may not be possible to use a one piece mount due to the difference in spacing between the two. Since, even with a two piece mount, each ring has a stop on the rail there is less likelihood of putting a strain on the scope.
Magnum springers are the worst on scopes and mounts. Some are powerful enough to elongate the stop pin hole from the attempted movement of the stop pin. That is a LOT of recoil!!
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Re: ONE PIECE SCOPE MOUNT?
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February 19, 2014, 06:46:23 PM »
Thanks
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Re: ONE PIECE SCOPE MOUNT?
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February 19, 2014, 07:46:34 PM »
Magnum springers are the worst on scopes and mounts. Some are powerful enough to elongate the stop pin hole from the attempted movement of the stop pin. That is a LOT of recoil!!
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Agreed Thomas!!! Every Gamo I had, NON magnums, turned each stop hole oval or broke the pins!!
I am pretty sure Gene posted that suggestion re 1 piece mounts.
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Re: ONE PIECE SCOPE MOUNT?
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February 19, 2014, 10:07:19 PM »
I prefer dovetail mounts on rifles and use UTG 1 piece mounts exclusively. They are super strong, super sturdy, super true and super reliable. I have NEVER had an ounce of a problem with them. Wouldn't do without them.
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Bwalton
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Re: ONE PIECE SCOPE MOUNT?
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February 19, 2014, 10:14:04 PM »
Thats good to know thanks!
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Re: ONE PIECE SCOPE MOUNT?
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February 19, 2014, 10:49:06 PM »
All you really want is ANY mounting system that stops movement, for several reasons... Scope/mount movement means something getting out of alignment or damage done. If it gets out of alignment, you lose your zero point each time it moves, and of this movement is continuous, your zero will always be on the move and it will look like your gun can't group for peanuts. Also as mentioned above, movement can also result in physical damge to mount, scope or gun or any combination thereof. As it moves, it casuses things to rub, strain and/or break - enough said..!!
A "good" one piece mount with multiple (I presonally recommend at least "4") screws, so it can clamp real tightly in the groove, will make the whole length of the mount act as one big clamp, whereas two piece mounts may have les than half of the total calmping area between them. Less clamping area, less grip, less friction. That means possibly more chance of movement, and we now know what that spells, don't we..??
Basically, any mount will do, no matter how many pieces it is made of, just as long as it holds firm and steady... Many picatinny and weaver base types are emerging in air rifles which can allow anchoring via slots, to stop the movement. If this is the case, darn near any mount with the appropriate corresponding screws will be acceptable...
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Re: ONE PIECE SCOPE MOUNT?
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February 20, 2014, 12:25:14 AM »
I had to go to a one piece with a stop pin on my Crosman Phantom. No matter how tight I went with the two piece I tried, it would slide to the rear within 15-18 shots.
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Bwalton
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Re: ONE PIECE SCOPE MOUNT?
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February 20, 2014, 12:56:36 AM »
Great info thanks!
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