Daisy

[mudduck48]

Since we are still on the "new" 880, could we see some Chrony results?

[birdmove]

   For a multi pump air rifle I would go with the Crosman 2100B any time, judging by my experience with my, now defunct, Remington Airmaster 77. If my Remington croaked today, I would order a 2100B today.

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I have 2 917 powerlines very nice shoot straight, shoot in the 650 fps with 7 to 8 gr. pellets not to pickey on pellets but both seem better with rws mstr klugn, they are a pleasure to shoot.

[stonykill]

Since we are still on the "new" 880, could we see some Chrony results?

 not mine. From Nervoustrigger. On this forum.
   
  and here is the link to his thread. His 880 took more work than mine to get into a really nice $45 shooter
   http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u215/stonykill/880chrony_zpsb84ba133.gif

   and in full discloser here is the link to my 880 and getting it to shoot great. In the end it just needed the barrel stablized and 30 weight non detergent oil to fix it right up.

  http://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=59713.msg572205;topicseen#msg572205

  no numbers as I do not have a chrony.

   Before the last few months I had not purchased an AG in almost 14 years. In 2000 I got a 760 and a Daisy powerline 856. Still have both with thousands of shots through them. Never had to do anything to them when new except site them in and oil them when I thought of it. Then about 4 months ago I started buying AG's again. All in the sub $100 range. And I will say in all honesty EVERY single one was NOT the quality of the 14 year old guns. Except for my P17. Stellar weapon out of the $39 blister pack. The Gamo's had terrible scopes. Which I expected. The 13xx's, both of them have wiggly barrels, low quality plastic, WIDE rough forging lines on the castings and the sights run out of adjustment. The 880 link is above.
   Point being if you spend less than $100 on an AG you better like to tinker to get a great shooter. Or get REALLY lucky like I did with the Beeman P17.
       Brand does not matter in the sub $100 Ag's. DO NOT expect the guns of our childhood (ok mine) of 40 years ago. I remember then we all thought pot metal was terrible.Pot metal was a sign of cheaply made and low qualityin the 70's. Now we RAVE that it is still used on the 2100.

    Moral? Don't expect a $40 AG to have the same QC as a $500 AG. Don't expect the same $45 AG to shoot like a $250 AG. Not gonna happen unless you get really lucky.

   Mods....we need a Daisy gate 

[Alanheal]

In one of those threads I saw this comment:  "The small loop to pump from likes to wear skin off of my fingers."
What I did was wrap the pump handle with a piece of leather (soft side up) and glued it with a bit of white hobby paste. Now it's soft to the hand and working the lever is no problem.

[stonykill]

In one of those threads I saw this comment:  "The small loop to pump from likes to wear skin off of my fingers."
What I did was wrap the pump handle with a piece of leather (soft side up) and glued it with a bit of white hobby paste. Now it's soft to the hand and working the lever is no problem.

 nice fix!

[lillysdad621]

as per comparing the 2100 to the 880... not quite a 10 dollar difference. The 880 is really 40 bucks, while a new 2100b will set you back 70 bucks. Now compare it to a 760... and the 760 comes out looking like a looser. Again, look at it for what it is. The only crosman that i can say is more like a 880 is the now defunct powermaster 66. I love that gun, but to be honest my 880 will out shoot it every time. The 2100 is bigger, heavier, and right now people are having issues with those too. a little TLC can sort all those guns (but no amount of TLC will make a 760 grow rifling...lol). My 880 i bought for 75 bucks. BNIB 20 year anniversary, with metal receiver and handle... plus it came with a complete parts gun, that only needs the felt ring on the pump to be fully functional. It has been tuned and it shoots very nice. I sold my 766 (2100) and bought 2 powermasters 66 and made one rifle out of two. I use the black stocks and blued shroud with the single shot receiver (never liked those 5 pellet clips...). did a trigger filing and pump adjustment and now it shoots very well. Both are very accurate but the 880 outshines it... the cool thing about the powermaster is that is lighter and comes to the shoulder much nicer, as it has the 760 ergonomics with the 2100 shroud and barrel... if you have never shot a 66 try it... it will make you divorce the 2100...

[K.O.]

as per comparing the 2100 to the 880... not quite a 10 dollar difference. The 880 is really 40 bucks, while a new 2100b will set you back 70 bucks. Now compare it to a 760... and the 760 comes out looking like a looser. Again, look at it for what it is. The only crosman that i can say is more like a 880 is the now defunct powermaster 66. I love that gun, but to be honest my 880 will out shoot it every time. The 2100 is bigger, heavier, and right now people are having issues with those too. a little TLC can sort all those guns (but no amount of TLC will make a 760 grow rifling...lol). My 880 i bought for 75 bucks. BNIB 20 year anniversary, with metal receiver and handle... plus it came with a complete parts gun, that only needs the felt ring on the pump to be fully functional. It has been tuned and it shoots very nice. I sold my 766 (2100) and bought 2 powermasters 66 and made one rifle out of two. I use the black stocks and blued shroud with the single shot receiver (never liked those 5 pellet clips...). did a trigger filing and pump adjustment and now it shoots very well. Both are very accurate but the 880 outshines it... the cool thing about the powermaster is that is lighter and comes to the shoulder much nicer, as it has the 760 ergonomics with the 2100 shroud and barrel... if you have never shot a 66 try it... it will make you divorce the 2100...

I am 6'3" and 250lbs and at just past 50  just a touch(20-25lbs) of chub so for ergonomics well the 2100 is just right for me...

The 760 is not in the 880s class its apple to oranges same with the 66 (a few did have rifled barrels though IIRC). I would have kept the 766 they had a metal piston...

as far as the 2100 price just about three months ago I got one from Wal-Mart on sale for 50$ but right now they are 59$.  As soon as it was

delivered the 1322 went on sale for 40$ so I returned it to get the 1322 I did not even open the box...



I am not putting the 880 down it  to me is great for a kids first half serious air rifle and with effort pretty good and maybe a better choice for

smaller folk(youngsters and  such)...

but for me when I am putting my cash down I say why can't they build a 13xx carbine with a 2100 tube...

If I were to run across a good deal on a 880, 922, SG and a few other Daisys believe me I would get them, my nose is not in the air...

[lillysdad621]

K.O.: The comparison between the 880 and the 760 is actually based on price... we all know that for 40 bucks you are getting ripped off at crosman when you could pick up a 880, so that is the comparo... as per 2100b at 60 bucks... well that is still 50% more than the 880 for not 50% more rifle. The powermaster 66 has always had a rifled barrel, check it out if you want... as it is the middle child between the 2100 and the 760. The 766 stayed... is called the 2100B... As per finding 2100b cheaper than 60 bucks... call me and let me know where... ill spend 50 bucks on a 2100 instead of a 880 at 40.00. But not 20 more, or 30 for that matter (as of today at academy sports.)

[K.O.]

Ok guy relax try not to use inflammatory put downs like rip-off., instead just say you do not think it is worth  the 34 dollars it went for here and by your math that is close to 60% the price for 3/4 the gun

On the rifled bit I have concentration probs and actually meant the 760 there where a few made with rifled barrels...

The 66 is now the 664GT Powermaster and behold the price   ****$45****  and honestly I am curious about  its power plant and such.

I know it is hard to believe but I have never shot a 66 so can not say much.

https://www.pyramydair.com/product/crosman-664gt-powermaster-air-rifle-kit?m=2011#Reviews

I will not spend 60 on a 2100 nor will I spend 40 on a 880 they just are not made very well now days at 50 and 35 well maybe...

I got my 2100 for 30$ lightly used...

The 2100 power plant is 200-300% more than 880 power plant to me though because of what I can do with it.

[stonykill]

Asked this question some time ago. Why no forum for all us Daisy owners? Seem to be a lot of us out their. Many  Daisy guns are pretty high quality and the older 880s are easy to modify. They really do make guns other than lever-action BB guns.

  a little reminder as to what the thread is about. Why no Daisy Gate? Somehow this turned into something else

[Alanheal]

Camparing airguns is just natural, but back to Daisy being so easy to pump, absurdly accurate, powerful and economical to operate.  I'd like to hear/ see how others have replaced valves or otherwise fixed or modified the Daisy.  I haven't taken one of these apart yet and would love know more.  By the way, I was trying different alloy pellets and happened on the Daisy LEAD FREE one's they sell on the Daisy website.  Often Daisy ammo is substandard, but these shoot very well in the Daisy 880.  Dead on accurate. 

[mudduck48]

DAISY GATE PLEASE.

[stonykill]

  By the way, I was trying different alloy pellets and happened on the Daisy LEAD FREE one's they sell on the Daisy website.  Often Daisy ammo is substandard, but these shoot very well in the Daisy 880.  Dead on accurate.

   that is interesting.

[AK73]

DAISY GATE PLEASE.

+1

[lillysdad621]

i am sorry if i offended anyone , including you KO... what i meant by rip off is that for that price you shoud be getting a better gun that what you are getting on a 760. this year it was redone so lets see what improvements are  made... (still no rifled barrel)... As per the 66, find one. it is half a 760 and half a 2100... as per not being worth it 40 dollars, the 880, i would disagree. if you have ever opened one up you'll be pretty impressed at the amount of power that such a small valve can put out... and the fact that it comes with a dodecahidrally rifled barrel that will shoot both pellets and BBs with no damage at all to the barrel. and crosman still gives you smoothbores... As per the 766/2100 being more modifiable... to an extent. I had a 766 that shot crosman ultra mags (10.5 gr) at 762 fps on 15 pumps. But the gun needed resealing often... and after 8 pumps you were straining to pump again... the daisy in the other hand has a pump that does not get any harder the higher you pump. And also it seems to be a lot quieter than any of the crosmans... I just believe to give credit, where credit is due. The 880 has long lived under the shadow of the 2100... maybe of a benji or a sheridan, but knowing what i know now of air rifles, pumpers, and such and having resealed thousands of this guns while as a gunsmith at Cobra airgun, i can tell you that it is a better rifle than most people believe... another great kept secret... the daisy powerline 901... yes... lets have a daisy gate!!!

[chea-pass]

I love this thread . . . (goes to get popcorn)  . . . keep it going guys and we just may get Daisy Gate. I'm seriously considering a Powerline 901 for free with my Amazon points 

[Dick Tracey]

......and the fact that it comes with a dodecahidrally rifled barrel that will shoot both pellets and BBs with no damage at all to the barrel. and crosman still gives you smoothbores...

dodecahidrally??    Huh!!

DT

[lillysdad621]

12 sided rifling... consist of 12 lands... dodecahidral... if spelled correctly...lol

[K.O.]

Pump effort shmumph  effort  me MONGO  thumps chest...

Just to prove I am not an anti Daisy snob here is my favorite sniper/plinker SSP. (side rested or prone I can actually Drive tacks with it)...

It is a bit beat, my friend had it in a cargo box with concrete tools before he gave it to me. He picked it up non working at a yard sale for $25.

I do have the peep sights but am playing at 30 yard sniper with it right now.