Daisy

[Alanheal]

I suspect many people don't take the 880 and other Daisy's seriously, because they're so inexpensive, are very light and have plastic stocks.  Some of the advantages of the 880 from my own experience are:

They're inexpensive
They're amazingly accurate to 25 yards and beyond.
Powerful - 650 fps with lead pellets at 10 pumps
Very easy to  pump with that long lever - easier than any other multipump.
They can shoot light weight lead-free alloy pellets with no harm to the mechanism
They have no recoil making it easy to shoot on target.
Shoot well with a variety of pellets
Have variable power, so they can be used for both outdoors and in the house during the winter.
Relatively quiet
Require hardly any maintenance. A drop or two of motor oil (30 weight non-detergent) and they are ready to go again.
They are light weight so people of any age or stature can use them.

[stonykill]

I suspect many people don't take the 880 and other Daisy's seriously, because they're so inexpensive, are very light and have plastic stocks.  Some of the advantages of the 880 from my own experience are:

They're inexpensive
They're amazingly accurate to 25 yards and beyond.
Powerful - 650 fps with lead pellets at 10 pumps
Very easy to  pump with that long lever - easier than any other multipump.
They can shoot light weight lead-free alloy pellets with no harm to the mechanism
They have no recoil making it easy to shoot on target.
Shoot well with a variety of pellets
Have variable power, so they can be used for both outdoors and in the house during the winter.
Relatively quiet
Require hardly any maintenance. A drop or two of motor oil (30 weight non-detergent) and they are ready to go again.
They are light weight so people of any age or stature can use them.

well said!

[mudduck48]

I suspect many people don't take the 880 and other Daisy's seriously, because they're so inexpensive, are very light and have plastic stocks.  Some of the advantages of the 880 from my own experience are:

They're inexpensive
They're amazingly accurate to 25 yards and beyond.
Powerful - 650 fps with lead pellets at 10 pumps
Very easy to  pump with that long lever - easier than any other multipump.
They can shoot light weight lead-free alloy pellets with no harm to the mechanism
They have no recoil making it easy to shoot on target.
Shoot well with a variety of pellets
Have variable power, so they can be used for both outdoors and in the house during the winter.
Relatively quiet
Require hardly any maintenance. A drop or two of motor oil (30 weight non-detergent) and they are ready to go again.
They are light weight so people of any age or stature can use them.

well said!

I personalty would not recommend the new 880. I received one from my oldest son Christmas 2012. Tried to sight it in with the open sights and could not. I put the so called scope that came with it on and what a joke. I shot it over the Chrony and was lucky to get 350 fps with older Daisy pellets and new Daisy BB's. I called Daisy about the fps and the lady said to send it back and they would take a look at it. She would not give me a return shipping label.  I told her that I was not going to spend $20 or more to send back a $40gun. I have since put a 3x9AO Hammers scope on it and it shoots real well. I still would not recommend it to any one. Buy a Daisy 953, throw the stock rear sight in the trash and put a red dot or a good scope one and you will be a happy camper. IMO

[lillysdad621]

mudduck... if all your gun needed was a scope is not fair to blast it like that... like you said, 40 bucks gets you into a chinese made 880, but with a little tlc and care while in use thay can be quite satisfying. I for one think of them very handsome and practical. i sit about 8 yards from my wood pile and with 3 pumps in it and average weight wadcutters i can headshot chipmunks with the open sights... at 8 and a small scope (bug buster 6x) i can clean the inside of a large warehouse from pigeons and feral pest birds in about an hour or two.  And with heavy pellets and 10 pumps i have dropped a rabbit with the 6x scope at 37 yards. as you said... is cheap, but very good platform to start a shooting career. And if you ever get the inkling to get an amazing shooter find a 22sg... Best walk around the woods rifle available... (save maybe a HW30s in .22). follow the mods available and you'll be rewarded with a light, easy to shoot and neighborhood friendly pellet gun. Oh yeah... dont shoot BBs through it...

[mudduck48]

They advertized it at 650 fps, I was lucky to get 350 fps. That and the stock rear sight and the so called scope they give you are the main reasons I would not recommend this gun. And the 3x9 scope? It is going to go on my 953.

[mudduck48]

I'm sorry, I was just disappointed with this thing after having the Daisy 880 phase I. I shot the poop out of my original Daisy. Look at the picture, right above the Tommy on the right. Look closely at the forearm, NO diamond. So after having this rifle, I think that I can "bash" the new ones.

[stonykill]

They advertized it at 650 fps, I was lucky to get 350 fps. That and the stock rear sight and the so called scope they give you are the main reasons I would not recommend this gun. And the 3x9 scope? It is going to go on my 953.

   completely unfair to bash a model gun over 1 bad experience. It's like bashing EVERY McDonalds over 1 bad french fry.

   I personally HIGHLY recommend the 880. For $40 you get way more gun than you pay for. Yours was a bad one. In manufactuing it happens. There are always defects in the manufacturing process. Very unfair post. Very unfair.

[stonykill]

I'm sorry, I was just disappointed with this thing after having the Daisy 880 phase I. I shot the poop out of my original Daisy. Look at the picture, right above the Tommy on the right. Look closely at the forearm, NO diamond. So after having this rifle, I think that I can "bash" the new ones.

 my 2 month old 880 shoots dime size groups at 20 yards offhand. It kills whatever I aim it at. I have it sighted in dead on at 15 yards. At 10 to 30 yards it stays in a 1 inch circle.Showing me the FPS are where they should be. Again, bashing an entire line over 1 bad gun is just not fair at all. Simply not a fair assessment

[mudduck48]

They advertized it at 650 fps, I was lucky to get 350 fps. That and the stock rear sight and the so called scope they give you are the main reasons I would not recommend this gun. And the 3x9 scope? It is going to go on my 953.

   completely unfair to bash a model gun over 1 bad experience. It's like bashing EVERY McDonalds over 1 bad french fry.

   I personally HIGHLY recommend the 880. For $40 you get way more gun than you pay for. Yours was a bad one. In manufactuing it happens. There are always defects in the manufacturing process. Very unfair post. Very unfair.

Read post #45 right above you post.

[stonykill]

They advertized it at 650 fps, I was lucky to get 350 fps. That and the stock rear sight and the so called scope they give you are the main reasons I would not recommend this gun. And the 3x9 scope? It is going to go on my 953.

   completely unfair to bash a model gun over 1 bad experience. It's like bashing EVERY McDonalds over 1 bad french fry.

   I personally HIGHLY recommend the 880. For $40 you get way more gun than you pay for. Yours was a bad one. In manufactuing it happens. There are always defects in the manufacturing process. Very unfair post. Very unfair.

Read post #45 right above you post.

  I did. Still you are saying you will not recommend the 880 because you got a bad one. And sure it isn't an old 880 with wood and metal. But then again weren't those $40 30 years ago? Today it would be a $150 gun.
    sorry you had a bad experience. And of course you reserve the right to never buy another 880. But I'll tell you and most everyone else will too your FPS are NOT normal from an 880.
   

[mudduck48]

In hind sight, I should have had my son take it back to his Walmart in Anaheim and get his money back or a different gun. But, I did not. So, someone tell me how to open this thing up and fix it. This is why we need a Daisy Gate. I can teach you how to referb the Crosman pumper pistols, but, I just do not know about the rifles.

[Wolfdog91]

The 880 would be much better with a wood stock and a metal reviver ( at least aluminum  though I would prefer steel ) Perhaps the fellas from the machine shop/wood working gates could help ?   $30 odd bucks for a new metal receiver seams reasonable i figure some one with a CNC machine could mill one out in no time or a private company could stamp them out like ak-47 parts. If i had the proper tools I figure a boyd's blaster stock could be converted to be used as a one piece style stock ( theirs a pic on line that some one did a real nice one from scratch). Boy I'll tell ya some one could make a pretty penny on the cheap 880!     

[stonykill]

In hind sight, I should have had my son take it back to his Walmart in Anaheim and get his money back or a different gun. But, I did not. So, someone tell me how to open this thing up and fix it. This is why we need a Daisy Gate. I can teach you how to referb the Crosman pumper pistols, but, I just do not know about the rifles.

  agreed we do need a Daisy gate.

   See if this link helps you any.
  http://forum.daisymuseum.com/daisy-880-compendium-repair-experiences_topic3519_page1.html

  or this one
 http://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=48459.0

[K.O.]

Look the 880 is ok but for 10$ more I would choose the 2100b every time...

Neither one is near as good as the older versions and neither come in .22 any more...

With a bit of tuning they both do ok stock.

The 2100 with some work can really shine though and still has a metal receiver and I feel it is more durable.

With mods  the 2100 does much much better and the Daisy well they just do not mod well.

with a bit of creativity and help I have the 2100 power plant pushing a 20.1g .25 pellet at about 17.4 fpe  and think I can get it closer to 20

fpe. This is using a combination of 760 2100 and 13xx parts.

I had a lot of fun with Daisy pumpers when young but even stock I went with Crosman and Benji for hunting they have more pump effort but

also more power.

[stonykill]

Look the 880 is ok but for 10$ more I would choose the 2100b every time...

Neither one is near as good as the older versions and neither come in .22 any more...

With a bit of tuning they both do ok stock.

The 2100 with some work can really shine though and still has a metal receiver and I feel it is more durable.

With mods  the 2100 does much much better and the Daisy well they just do not mod well.

with a bit of creativity and help I have the 2100 power plant pushing a 20.1g .25 pellet at about 17.4 fpe  and think I can get it closer to 20

fpe. This is using a combination of 760 2100 and 13xx parts.

I had a lot of fun with Daisy pumpers when young but even stock I went with Crosman and Benji for hunting they have more pump effort but

also more power.

  AG choice is all about personal preference.

  But back on topic.... asking the mods for a Daisy gate. Many many of us have them in our sigs. And Daisy IS at the forefront in getting the youth of America into guns. There should be a Daisy gate for that reason alone.

[mudduck48]

In hind sight, I should have had my son take it back to his Walmart in Anaheim and get his money back or a different gun. But, I did not. So, someone tell me how to open this thing up and fix it. This is why we need a Daisy Gate. I can teach you how to referb the Crosman pumper pistols, but, I just do not know about the rifles.

  agreed we do need a Daisy gate.

   See if this link helps you any.
  http://forum.daisymuseum.com/daisy-880-compendium-repair-experiences_topic3519_page1.html

  or this one
 http://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=48459.0

stonykill, Thanks for the links. I looked at them both. The Daisy talk showed the exhaust valve and guess what? That is the same valve that was in the early Daisy 717 722 747 and the 777. I just repaired my 722, got my parts from Daisy. But, the old style nylon end on the exhaust valve is kinda cone shaped. The replacement one Daisy sells is round. I had to take fine lapping compound and use the new valve to lap the seat in to get to seal. I'm working on a Crosman 1300 right now, waiting for parts. Then I just might dig my old 880 out and try to get to work again. I also have a Daisy 922 I would like to get working again. Thanks for the help. QUACK,QUACK!! 

[stonykill]

In hind sight, I should have had my son take it back to his Walmart in Anaheim and get his money back or a different gun. But, I did not. So, someone tell me how to open this thing up and fix it. This is why we need a Daisy Gate. I can teach you how to referb the Crosman pumper pistols, but, I just do not know about the rifles.

  agreed we do need a Daisy gate.

   See if this link helps you any.
  http://forum.daisymuseum.com/daisy-880-compendium-repair-experiences_topic3519_page1.html

  or this one
 http://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=48459.0

stonykill, Thanks for the links. I looked at them both. The Daisy talk showed the exhaust valve and guess what? That is the same valve that was in the early Daisy 717 722 747 and the 777. I just repaired my 722, got my parts from Daisy. But, the old style nylon end on the exhaust valve is kinda cone shaped. The replacement one Daisy sells is round. I had to take fine lapping compound and use the new valve to lap the seat in to get to seal. I'm working on a Crosman 1300 right now, waiting for parts. Then I just might dig my old 880 out and try to get to work again. I also have a Daisy 922 I would like to get working again. Thanks for the help. QUACK,QUACK!!

  Glad I was able to help. I have an old Daisy model 92 pistol I need to dig into one of these days.

   On a separate thought that was brought up earlier. This summer I may just make some wood stocks for the lower priced Daisy's in my wood shop. At least for mine. I don't really know there is a market for a wood stock and fore stock(s) costing more than the gun does.

[mudduck48]

You never know until you try. I showed my neighbor my 953, he liked it, but said he would prefer a wood stock. I showed him the 853 in the PA catalog and said, yea like that. Look at the mods on the Crosman pumpers and CO2 guns. They start out with a $50 gun and spend  more than that just on a pair of wood grips.

[stonykill]

You never know until you try. I showed my neighbor my 953, he liked it, but said he would prefer a wood stock. I showed him the 853 in the PA catalog and said, yea like that. Look at the mods on the Crosman pumpers and CO2 guns. They start out with a $50 gun and spend  more than that just on a pair of wood grips.

  that is very true.

[Alanheal]

It's always frustrating when you get an imperfect production model. It can happen with any gun, even an expensive one. However Mudduck's experience with that Daisy points up another issue.  My first Daisy was wonderful in all respects.  The second one just two years later was not so perfect. Parts are not aligned so well. I had to adjust the rear sight totally over to the one side. The action is not as smooth either.  It still shoots beautifully, but this all suggests that Daisy may not be paying enough attention to quality control. With such high volume sales, they may be taking the market for granted.  It would be a shame if they threw away a winning hand.