Lightest sub-$1000 multishot PCP rifle?

[drewciferpike]

OK, all... after some soul-searching (read: beer) while planning for my birthday, I'd like to know if I'm missing something.

It seems like the lightest out-of-the-box multishot PCP rifle I can find is the BSA Ultra SE, with the AA S200 and AAS510 xtra FAC Carbine following the upward curve in weight. After that it's the SynRod and Rainstorm.

This is just what I've found for under $1000, out-of-the-box. Also, my dream-rifle (Indy/Independence) is heavier than the others I've listed, so I'm rethinking my "dreams".

I'm looking for a very accurate multishot .22 hunting rifle, but in a lightweight package. I'd like >20fpe. I'd also like to keep things short, without stepping into bullpups or pistols. A factory shroud would be nice, or the ability to be shrouded is a must (I'm guessing the BSAs lend themselves to shrouding, at least from photographs). The only reason I haven't considered an HPA-converted H850 (I guess they're under 6 pounds, stock) is the need to use an LDC, as I don't want to add length to the rifle. I think I could partially-shroud a S200/CZ200 so I don't have too much of an LDC sticking out, but that's still iffy.

It seems like the S200/CZ200 and S510 are my best bets, but I wanted to check with everyone before I dove in...

(I know I can get a Disco and toss on a new breech and shroud, but I'd like to stay away from the barrel lottery and need to have it completely monkied, out of the box...)

Any other multishot, lightweight hunter suggestions are requested.

Thanks!

[vtmactech]

I had this same thought.  I needed a lightweight hunter and was also considering the Discovery.  I decided on the PRod and a carbine stock.  Tunable, affordable, can be upgraded if needed.  Although I don't plan on changing it for a while.  Only thing I didn't like is the factory "stock" so getting a walnut one stock with proper height cheek piece. 

Steve Corcoran's and this one were the stocks that interested me most.

[Jobobo]

Brocock Contour. 4.0 pounds. AoA carries them, but brocock upgraded them recently and I don't know if they have the new stock with the 30mm tube and new valves, it is supposed to almost double the shot count from 40 to 70 in .22. I think you get about 18 FPE. They have an XL model that is a little heavier and longer that gets near 25fpe. It is about $700 at AoA.

[Geoff]

Disco with repeater breech ?

[Rescue912]

I have a single shot Contour and love it. It came with a RIM multishot magazine but I removed it, I preferred to shoot  single shot. Very compact and accurate. Had to add a shroud for noise but it is a great little hunter.

I sold my TalonSS and have been considering selling the P-Rod since the Brocock has taken over the .22 cabine role in my airsenal.

[Bryan Heimann]

P-rod maybe?

[chiro972b]

I have the single shot s500 SL, and I can't recommend it highly enough. It is very light and I don't think the multi shot 510 is much heavier. I know the fx guns are a bit lighter, but you'll have to find a used one to get under $1000.

[drewciferpike]

I looked at Prods a while back, but I know I'd get too impatient to tune one to the performance I'd get from a stock rifle.

I think the 510 is looking more and more like "the one"...

[grobe1458]

I looked at Prods a while back, but I know I'd get too impatient to tune one to the performance I'd get from a stock rifle.

I think the 510 is looking more and more like "the one"...

I have the s510 and I like it a lot, especially the adjustable power level. it has shot accurate since I've had it and is very quiet.

[vtmactech]

>This post< is also partially to blame for me choosing the P-Rod.  Someone took the time to make varied adjustments and post results.  Thumbhole stock is currently being made and P-Rod is supposed to be on its way.  When I have both in hands I will report back if you haven't made a decision by then.

[Acapulco]

I would go w/ a used BSA Ultra, Short, light and accurate. Shoots 17fpe for 20 shots. I bought mine a few years ago and couldn't be happier. I picked it up way under  your budget.

[Nomadic Pirate]

The Rainstorm at 39" and 7.2 pounds is a pretty handy little carbine, can be easily detuned by changing hammer springs, and with the big air reservoir at low powers it gives tons of shots.

a used Verminator would be a good gun for you too

[Bryan Heimann]

A verminator would be pretty sweet

[drewciferpike]

Knowing that for some strange reason everyone wants new-except some old timers and folks who shoot matchs- I'll stick with my used advize and +1 that idea of a used BSA Ultra.

I had looked at the Ultra, but I wasn't sure if it was easy to up the power. All I saw on PA was it regulated for 12fpe, and I don't know if it would be easy for someone without access to a shop to adjust for more power. I definitely want 20+ fpe.

I would actually prefer buying used (especially from GTA members) because then I'd know what I'm getting (and I sometimes get bored searching for the right pellet... I know, I'm lame). I just want a light rifle with 20+ fpe, multishot, good shot count, and that doesn't feel like a broomstick in the field. Adjustable power would be nice, but isn't a deal-breaker.

The Rainstorm at 39" and 7.2 pounds is a pretty handy little carbine, can be easily detuned by changing hammer springs, and with the big air reservoir at low powers it gives tons of shots.

The rainstorm definitely intrigues me, and especially because...

If I went with a 510 carbine, I'd still need to add an LDC to make it backyard friendly, so I might as well start with the full-length 510, in my thinking. If that's the case, then I might as well look at other sub-8-pound guns that are less than 40"--with some using an add-on LDC would be close to the same length as a standard 510. Even a Scorpion or an S200 with a LDC should bring me to the general length of a 510.

Am I forgetting something, or does that make sense?

So for right now, I'm thinking used, in these choices:
- standard-length 510
- a tuned-up Ultra with an LDC or a working shroud
- a scorpion with a stubby LDC (or a shroud?)
- a rainstorm (maybe some work on the shroud? I haven't heard one)
- a tuned-up s200 with a stubby LDC
- I guess I could go with a Synrod if it's got good accuracy, but why would someone let a good grouper go?

The one thing I really like about the 510 is the adjustable power. That's not super-important, though, if adjusting other rifles isn't too hard (I need to shoot in a metal building at times, and then hit ground squirrels at 50+ yards at others).

Bang for the buck, I think this is where I'm stuck. I can't see getting an FX, etc. for $800...

Am I way off base?

[Ribbonstone]

Interesting to see how this kind of morphed.  Are 3 on that list I'd not call really light weight.  Not that that is a bad thing, can normally shoot a medium weight rifle better than the light weights.

[Rescue35]

Light weight, powerfull, repeater. Sounds like a Sumatra carbine is in your future.

[drewciferpike]

Interesting to see how this kind of morphed.  Are 3 on that list I'd not call really light weight.  Not that that is a bad thing, can normally shoot a medium weight rifle better than the light weights.

Totally! I figured if I was going to lengthen the rifle in order to keep it backyard friendly, I might as well look at guns that were a little heavier, but still relatively "short". I'd still like it to be pretty light, but as long as I'm not lugging around a bench gun, I figure I'm doing OK...

Light weight, powerfull, repeater. Sounds like a Sumatra carbine is in your future.

I know this is a horrible thing to say, but I really don't like the way they look. I'm also not into the lever action. If it was a standard bolt or a side-lever, I might waffle on the looks department.

[Bryan Heimann]

I will tell you one thing- if I ever cross over to the darkside I will definitely buy used.  I imagine I probably won't by another new airgun period, except maybe from flying dragon with a full tune.  With the deals that come up in the classifieds, I don't think any of the other retailers can hang.  Lord knows I have lost enough money buying new and selling later on.

[RatRacer]

I will tell you one thing- if I ever cross over to the darkside I will definitely buy used.  I imagine I probably won't by another new airgun period, except maybe from flying dragon with a full tune.  With the deals that come up in the classifieds, I don't think any of the other retailers can hang.  Lord knows I have lost enough money buying new and selling later on.

The choir asks if you could be quiet please.

[Motorhead]

The HATSAN AT44 or 65's are pretty light while packing a good punch too.