Author Topic: New 22cal barrel available from TJ's (Read 27796 times))

SeanMP · « **on:** November 08, 2013, 03:15:51 PM »

Some time ago I got a request from Mike at Tj's to help him design a high quality barrel blank in 22cal pellet to give him a stock item to serve his growing AG clientele.

Between Mike, Bob and myself we came up with a barrel that is specifically designed to be a much higher quality replacement to factory barrels.

The barrels are forged CrMoly units with a 6 land configuration. They are initially available in 7/16 and 1/2" sizes. They are of course unmachined blanks as is usual from Tj's

I don't have Mikes approval to release the actual bore ID's/rates but after recieving my samples I can say these are absolutely what I'm hoping to see when I start out to make a finished barrel.

Shown is a push through from a raw blank

Motorhead · « **Reply #1 on:** November 08, 2013, 04:47:41 PM »

No clue who Tj's is

But a link and some price info would be great !

SeanMP · « **Reply #2 on:** November 08, 2013, 05:04:58 PM »

Mike Sayers at TJ's Liners

Mr Sayer
TJ's Enterprises
3652 Neltner Rd
Alexandria, KY 41001
859-635-5560

Most custom builders and gunsmith's will have Mike on speed dial

RatRacer · « **Reply #3 on:** November 08, 2013, 05:21:05 PM »

Quote from: Motorhead on November 08, 2013, 04:47:41 PM

No clue who Tj's is

But a link and some price info would be great !

Scott-
This where Jim Gaska is getting his new M/P-rod replacement barrels from also, but designed to his specifications.

Sean-
Will these be choked, or straight bore?

Rdsail · « **Reply #4 on:** November 08, 2013, 05:34:34 PM »

I want one. lol.
I would love to get a 26" long for machined for my disco with .167 barrel port.

Where do I order.

PakProtector · « **Reply #5 on:** November 08, 2013, 05:38:22 PM »

Quote from: Rdsail on November 08, 2013, 05:34:34 PM

I want one. lol.
I would love to get a 26" long for machined for my disco with .167 barrel port.

Where do I order.

I suspect, call Sean. Let me suggest a .167 x .250 long port; full bore area...

If you're going to be only pellets, maybe .160x.200 oblong with goal being keep the pellet supported for the largest arc possible.
cheers,
Douglas

SeanMP · « **Reply #6 on:** November 08, 2013, 05:47:28 PM »

These are specifically Mike's stock inventory so you would just call him and order one and have it shipped to a barrelfitter/gunsmith of your choice.

Of which I'm just one of X number that Mike deals with on a regular basis.

Just as an aside to anyone trying to order these or anything else from TJ's. He is on vacation until the end of november

Rdsail · « **Reply #7 on:** November 08, 2013, 05:56:05 PM »

Sean,

Could you PM me his information. I will have to wait till he gets back from vacation. Also, I would not mind getting you to do the fitting. I have a BNM breech. Would that be a problem.

Daniel

rsterne · « **Reply #8 on:** November 08, 2013, 06:58:43 PM »

Glad to see the barrel worked out, Sean.... it was fun working with you and Mike on this project.... I look forward to trying one on my 2260 HPA Gopher whacker....

RatRacer.... As per all of Mike's barrels/liners they are not choked, they are unmachined blanks, no chamber, leade, porting, or crown.... but Sean can look after that for you, including choking....

Bob

Rdsail · « **Reply #9 on:** November 08, 2013, 07:00:20 PM »

I would love to get it choked when the time comes

SeanMP · « **Reply #10 on:** November 08, 2013, 08:31:03 PM »

Quote from: Rdsail on November 08, 2013, 07:00:20 PM

I would love to get it choked when the time comes

Actually IMO these blanks will not require a choke, nor will they benifit from any additional choking. They are ideally suited to a classic long taper lap.
If you look at the pic, right at the head rim, you can see evidence of full contact in the groove ID. So the long lap maintains the gas seal for the entire length of the bore. Maintaining full contact with the bore for the whole ride is superior to the quick squeeze.

However thats not to say choking is bad in and of itself.

grumpy · « **Reply #11 on:** November 08, 2013, 09:07:22 PM »

very nice, glad to see more barrels hitting the market.

Ribbonstone · « **Reply #12 on:** November 08, 2013, 09:28:22 PM »

Suspect I'll try one sometime shortly, have a project in mind.

Don't think a good barrel really needs a choke. Have found them to be more pellet-picky than choked barrles, but once you find the right combination they seem to shoot well.

Might be alone in this, but back when HW barrel blanks were available (Mac 1) bought one of his close-out 5mm blanks. If there is a choke in it, I can't find it by feel, but it does shoot well.

ScottThornley · « **Reply #13 on:** November 08, 2013, 10:53:20 PM »

SeanMP,

Maybe my mind is playing tricks on me, but did I not read that these barrels were hammer forged, and incorporated a very, very gradual taper from breech to muzzle?

Regards,
Scott

SeanMP · « **Reply #14 on:** November 08, 2013, 11:25:12 PM »

Quote from: ScottThornley on November 08, 2013, 10:53:20 PM

SeanMP,

Maybe my mind is playing tricks on me, but did I not read that these barrels were hammer forged, and incorporated a very, very gradual taper from breech to muzzle?

Regards,
Scott

Scott

Yes and no
Yes they are hammer forged but no the long taper would need to be lapped in.

SeanMP · « **Reply #15 on:** November 08, 2013, 11:38:31 PM »

Quote from: grumpy on November 08, 2013, 09:07:22 PM

very nice, glad to see more barrels hitting the market.

Yes I totally agree. The only real commercial player for AG blanks is totally hit and miss.

RatRacer · « **Reply #16 on:** November 09, 2013, 12:00:07 AM »

Quote from: rsterne on November 08, 2013, 06:58:43 PM

Glad to see the barrel worked out, Sean.... it was fun working with you and Mike on this project.... I look forward to trying one on my 2260 HPA Gopher whacker....

RatRacer.... As per all of Mike's barrels/liners they are not choked, they are unmachined blanks, no chamber, leade, porting, or crown.... but Sean can look after that for you, including choking....

Bob

Thank you for the "particulars" Bob. You knew that this was/ is going to be asked at some point.

sixshootertexan · « **Reply #17 on:** November 14, 2013, 10:25:12 PM »

I'll order 24" of barrel when it's available.

Rdsail · « **Reply #18 on:** December 04, 2013, 11:00:08 PM »

I'm glad to say thank I ordered one yesterday. I will be putting on my disco and increasing the barrel length from 24 to 26in. Ordered the ½ barrel. I should make its way to Sean's for machining along with my breech for fitting and a few other mods.

Sfttailrdr46 · « **Reply #19 on:** December 04, 2013, 11:15:12 PM »

As a new to modding ag shooter what is a decent ballpark cost for one of those barrels set up and fitted ready to shoot ?

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