New Marmot Militia Hammer Forged .22 Barrel?

[joel w]

So I got an email from Jim tonight and he has a proposition for me since my order somehow got misplaced or something.   He is offering me a partial refund and promises to ship one of his own new barrel designs??

 Here is a quote  "I have developed a new hammer forged barrel in my own land/groove dimension and twist rate. They are very, very accurate." 

I of course told him "Yes please and thank you."  I asked for some specs on the barrel but I was just wondering if anyone else has tried one or heard of them??  I have NEVER read or heard a bad thing about Jim or his work so I can not wait for it to show up...

[MustangMike]

Id trust jim, if he says it is accurate id put money on it being accurate.

btw guys i did send him my bnm breech and he can make a lothar barrel for the disco with bnm breech.. welcome

[joel w]

Thanks Mike,  I just hope it is a bit thicker than the stock Mrod barrel and I can find a good pellet for it.  I don't mind being a tester as long as it's a successful test. lol

[PatrickB]

So I got an email from Jim tonight and he has a proposition for me since my order somehow got misplaced or something.   He is offering me a partial refund and promises to ship one of his own new barrel designs??

 Here is a quote  "I have developed a new hammer forged barrel in my own land/groove dimension and twist rate. They are very, very accurate." 

I of course told him "Yes please and thank you."  I asked for some specs on the barrel but I was just wondering if anyone else has tried one or heard of them??  I have NEVER read or heard a bad thing about Jim or his work so I can not wait for it to show up...

Wow, how lucky for you. I've been waiting for my barrel for almost 3 months now. It's always this that and the other thing. I just wish I would get any barrel as long as it fits my rifle. Right now I am very disappointed with Jim, last time I purchased something from him it came right away and the quality was great but Im starting to have regrets now. And yes, I have been nothing but polite. I figure 2 more weeks and I am asking for my money back.
pat

[limbshaker]

I talked to him at the Hickory NC airgun show. He had the new Prod barrel on display. It was a very nice looking barrel, for what that's worth (performance is what counts!  ). Very very smooth inside and well machined. They have no choke, but I agree with him when he said it doesn't need one if the barrel is the right size all the way through. A choke-less barrel also has the potential to squeeze a few more fps out since there is no restriction. Keep us posted on your results, I expect it to do very well. If not, I'm sure Jim will make it right.

As a side note, Jim is a super cool dude. Very nice guy to talk to and super helpful. Be sure and speak to him if you ever get the chance. 

[joel w]

I ordered August* 7th and I know he said he is way behind then and has gotten buried since.  You might want to email him again,  he said he has a few ready to go out Monday that have a .500" breech.  Mine is an oddball because it's going to fit the .25 cal breech but use .22 cal barrel and bolt probe.

Limbshaker,  Thanks, I don't really have any doubt he would make it right if needed and I will be posting some updates..

[PakProtector]

So I got an email from Jim tonight and he has a proposition for me since my order somehow got misplaced or something.   He is offering me a partial refund and promises to ship one of his own new barrel designs??

 Here is a quote  "I have developed a new hammer forged barrel in my own land/groove dimension and twist rate. They are very, very accurate." 

I of course told him "Yes please and thank you."  I asked for some specs on the barrel but I was just wondering if anyone else has tried one or heard of them??  I have NEVER read or heard a bad thing about Jim or his work so I can not wait for it to show up...

Can't help but wonder the source. And of course the specs...lol I suspect he's had an AG bore mandrel made by TJ's. Not a bad solution IMO. Now IFF he's found another hammer forger barrel source, I would sure like to know about it.
cheers,
Douglas

[Ribbonstone]

BSA?
http://www.airgunspares.com/store/department/72/BARRELS-%26-BLANKS/

While CZ doesn't have a reatil source for their barrels, am pretty sure they are a source for some makers.

[rkr]

BSA barrels are tapered for their hole length, although they feel like choked when you push a pellet through.

[Ribbonstone]

If he's figured a way to economically make hammer forge barrels on a small scale for individual shop use, he's going to be a rich man.

So lets assume they are being bought, and we'll play detective.

Wherever they are coming from, are comparaible in cost to LW.
Wherever they are coming from, there isn't an advantage to mentioning the name.
Are a lot of makers that hammer forge barrels, but not so many that are suitable for airgun use.
Can also assume that his quality standards are high, so whatever barrels they are, they meet his standards.

[CarsonRatSniper]

In my limited experience with 2 TJ barrels they are amazingly accurate with a good crown and minor lapping.
I plan on using Mike's barrels from now on for any custom builds I do.
I was afraid the 1:14 twist in .250" caliber would be too fast for pellets but I've gotten one hole groups out to 50 yards with 25.4 grain Kings driven anywhere from 660 fps out of my 2540 Carbine to 1020 fps out of my Challenger.

You would be a lucky man to get a custom twist barrel from TJ's.

[joel w]

Looking at his website now, I no longer see mention of the LW .590" barrel for the mrods so if there was a problem with the LW blanks, then I am happy he did not pass the "problem" on to his customers...  Searching some of the equipment it takes to actually make a hammer forged barrel, I am guessing also that he found another source besides LW. 

Either way, I am sure I will be happy and I hope the rest of you waiting on yours will be happy also once he gets caught up.   

[PakProtector]

Wherever they are coming from, there isn't an advantage to mentioning the name.

IFF they're TJ, Jim has control of the mandrel; nobody is going to hurt his investment by knowing they where they come from. I am really glad to see an alternative to the IFFY stuff coming out of LW. I may just have to get one for myself...

I have a TJ barrel getting fitted to a .224 Marauder build. I can't wait to try it. Probe-less bolt like Bob showed for his Disco 30 cal... but done with a 25 cal breech as a starting point( quite elegant if I do say so myself ).

TJ's is top shelf stuff. Quarter mile stuff judging by results a few have achieved with guns built around them.
cheers,
Douglas

[ScottThornley]

PakProtector - when you say ".224" Marauder build, does that mean one designed for cast/swaged .224" PB projectiles?

[strever]

Jim just posted they are TJ barrels for 22 cal only for now

Wherever they are coming from, there isn't an advantage to mentioning the name.

IFF they're TJ, Jim has control of the mandrel; nobody is going to hurt his investment by knowing they where they come from. I am really glad to see an alternative to the IFFY stuff coming out of LW. I may just have to get one for myself...

I have a TJ barrel getting fitted to a .224 Marauder build. I can't wait to try it. Probe-less bolt like Bob showed for his Disco 30 cal... but done with a 25 cal breech as a starting point( quite elegant if I do say so myself ).

TJ's is top shelf stuff. Quarter mile stuff judging by results a few have achieved with guns built around them.
cheers,
Douglas

[joel w]

Thanks John, Jim said the land/groove is a trade secret so he would not tell me but the twist rate he said is 1:19.

[PakProtector]

PakProtector - when you say ".224" Marauder build, does that mean one designed for cast/swaged .224" PB projectiles?

Yes, cast in this case. I have boolit molds up to the limit of a 14" twist can stabilize.
cheers,
Douglas

[Scott Endler]

Any groups to show from the Marmot forged barrel yet?

[joel w]

Not yet, sorry,  With the new baby and a new job (massive overtime) I have not found the time to put it together yet to test.  I will try to get it together this next weekend though and do some shooting.  The barrel he ended up sending me was machined for a .22 breech instead of the .25 so I had to buy a new breech but I have no doubts it will all work well together..

[cilami]

Not yet, sorry,  With the new baby and a new job (massive overtime) I have not found the time to put it together yet to test.  I will try to get it together this next weekend though and do some shooting.  The barrel he ended up sending me was machined for a .22 breech instead of the .25 so I had to buy a new breech but I have no doubts it will all work well together..

An update to this thread will be much appreciated. Any results that can be shown? Are the PRod hammer forged barrels available?

TIA