Are HW's still worth the $$$

[Marc]

I have heard of some issues with the newer guns.  Are HW's still worth the cash?  I can't believe that they let the 30S and 50S continue to have the galling issues, and it makes me a little suspect of other things.

[Duckfish]

Galling issues, ?

Tell more I was getting ready to buy a 50

[Petey]

Galling issues, ?

Tell more I was getting ready to buy a 50

Don't worry about it...just buy it and enjoy!

[JimL911]

The galling issue is a simple fix.
http://www.airrifleheadquarters.com/catalog/item/251488/3216416.htm
As to worth the price, I have 5 and each one is worth what I paid. Accuracy and quality come at a price. They are mass produced however and like all mass produced things they can benefit from a tear down and clean up.

[Mark 611]

I agree with the others comments here

[Marc]

OK guys - so still a good value at the price?  I ran accross some posts showing machining issues and large burrs left in the gun, and several guys saying that HW is not what it used to be.

I really just want to have a few good AG's, not a huge collection.  I own an HW30S and am very happy with it, and in looking for one with more power, I was steered away from the current Beeman R9 which I think is an HW?

I came over the AG's early this year when .22 ammo disappeared, and am still learning a lot, so thanks for your patience.

[White Eagle]

I really just want to have a few good AG's, not a huge collection.

Famous last words!   LOL!   Seriously, I agree with what the others said.  The HW's are worth the bucks, and yes they are mass produced, so sometimes things slip through.  But I think the odds are in your favor of getting a great rifle with no issues.  And if you do have an issue, it will probably be an easy fix, or HW will make good on it.  They seem to take customer satisfaction very seriously.  I know I will not hesitate to buy an HW for my next air rifle.  Keep us posted!

[SciGuy]

HW may be having some issues but no more than it seems every other manufacturer is.  I'd say still worth it.  For high-end springers I always suggest looking for a used gun being sold by a well repsected airgunner either here on GTA or on the other big forum.  These guys have almost always done at least a home lube tune and you will get a gun that is known to be a shooter and will save a bunch of money.  If you buy new, stay with the known good companies.  PA has proven to take care of their customers and if you get a bad rifle they will make it right.

[Marc]

I see a lot of the industry having some "issues", over in firearms too.

So HW is still a good value - good to know.

[huklbery]

I see a lot of the industry having some "issues", over in firearms too.

So HW is still a good value - good to know.

Main thing for me is the barrel & trigger, CZ/HW/Diana & AA (and many others) generally deliver both but sometimes miss on individual guns on assembly (like all manufacturers).  Then you have individual model issues, the quality guns that have a base of good barrel and trigger also have the fixes for that model. 

Inexpensive guns are a satisfying thing to get shooting well but seldom does the clone trigger & barrel match the original model.  Simply put, the specs are looser, the finish is good but not great and the assembly as a whole can vary miles from one rifle to the next.

Tighter tolerance barrel, trigger and material are what your paying for buying premium.  A guy with a $69 refurb clone from china may still get a great shooter but its a crapshoot and he is starting from a less likely place.

[palonej]

Hey Mark. I just picked up a new HW 98 bout 2 weeks ago. I can't seem to put it down. This rifle is just amazing. As soon as you pick it up you can feel how well made it is. It is tight, I seem to use that word a lot when describing this rifle. Solid is a good one too. It impresses the heck out of me. Totally satisfied. It is stupid accurate. Definitely worth every penny.

[chuckinohio]

  I would say that they are worth what they are charging for them. They are good shooting rifles, that will, depending on expectations, do everything that you want them to do.

  My 'depending on expectations' qualifier is based on first hand experience with a HW97K shooting against a TX200 in my yard. That is a black synthetic thumbhole Beeman HW97K against a TX200 Mklll, both box stock as they come from the dealer.

  If I had bought the HW97K first, and shot it, I would have been overwhelmingly pleased with it, no question.
  I didn't though, I had the TX first, and it amplified all the little idiosyncrasies in the Beeman model HW.

  The HW clearly demonstrates a bushel basket full of potential to be everything that any other spring rifle in its class can be, but it is exactly that, potential. It may or may not smooth out a bit, and come to equal the TX in almost every aspect.
 
  My personal impression of the HW line or Beeman versions thereof is that they are fine rifles that will give excellent service, and there is potential to turn them into stellar shooters if you wish to put the time into them yourself, or spend a little coin to have one gone through for you.

  I wouldn't worry a bit about dropping coin on another one, and actually plan on doing just that before the end of the year.

[Frank in Fairfield]

ABSOLUTELY

[Ahab]

I have yet to find someone with a TX200 that can do better than my stock  HW77K. Not saying there isn't one out there, just haven't found one yet. My HW90 is a .25 powerhouse and it too shot great out of the box with no fiddling.

[chuckinohio]

  I was hoping that my 97 was going to be a world beater also.

  I honestly don't have enough pellets through it to render a definitive decision on that as of yet.

  Here's to hoping that it only continues to improve, which I have every expectation that it will..   

[Bill in SC]

There has been some good information posted on this thread. Thanks!

Bill in SC

[Marc]

Thanks guys - the positive I am seeing WAY out does the bit of negative I have come across.

[nunofrancisco]

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[garczar6]

I have a new 30s, a R9Golfinger .20, a Maccari-sourced R9Deluxe .177 and a 50s .177 on the way. All guns are stock and stupidly accurate. The galling issue takes about 15min. to fix. Buy one and enjoy it.

[wahoowad]

I have a new HW30S and it has the galling, but it only took a tiny dab of moly grease to completely smooth it out. Not an issue.

HWs are good guns. You feel the quality.