I know that one of the driving forces for the forum is that it is THE paramount source for AG info and camaraderie, but there's no reason that it be free if it's at the expense of others. The forum is currently at more than 1,500 members. I think that there could be some way to generate some operating funds without ruffling too many feathers. Perhaps we should charge a minimal fee ($1-$2) to be able to post on the forum or to access the library. I know this is a bit against the grain, but I think it might get the job done. The auction did generate some geldt; but I really was surprised by the "turnout"(12 members), particularly due to the fact that there were 3 or 4 posts from guys interested in buying that exact scope during the time the auction ran. Not one of them entered the drawing!?? Hard to figure....pv