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palonej · « **Reply #120 on:** August 16, 2013, 05:57:48 PM »

He is a pleasure to deal with bro!!

Gertrude · « **Reply #121 on:** August 16, 2013, 06:09:47 PM »

Wow,
What a freakin' nightmare.
My heart goes out to you Joe.

palonej · « **Reply #122 on:** August 16, 2013, 06:19:10 PM »

You had to see my face when I opened the box Ron. The blonde gave me a hug...and promised not to swing for the fences next time I deserve a frying pan wallop!! So I got that goin for me!!

Tomcat · « **Reply #123 on:** August 16, 2013, 06:42:20 PM »

Really sorry to hear about the stock. I hope Umarex can get you another in short order.

Bullit · « **Reply #124 on:** August 16, 2013, 06:54:05 PM »

It's a shame that Umarex gets a strike for what may be the fault of shipping abuse. Now I don't know what caused it, by the pic, but looking at the cracks, I wonder if washer and pressure, as well as the grain is a 50/50, to me, based on the grain quality of the beech. But it looks dirty to me, (in the pic), so I may be mistaken. Mighta been tightened to the limit, and with some bumps along the road,,,,the wood finally cut loose. Dunno.
I will say that reading the "back and forth" communications from Glenn, is that HE has taken a C/S beating, and as such, a positive personal interest, and it appears that he's trying to do backbends, to do whatever He and Umarex can to make it right. That's about all he can do.
I grinned about the "karma". Folks of the Fold...I believe...

Petey · « **Reply #125 on:** August 16, 2013, 11:08:01 PM »

SMH.....sorry to hear it Joe..
Give it some time and all will be well again.

Hang in there Brother!

Petey.

palonej · « **Reply #126 on:** August 16, 2013, 11:12:03 PM »

Quote from: Tomcat on August 16, 2013, 06:42:20 PM

Really sorry to hear about the stock. I hope Umarex can get you another in short order.

Thanks Tom!! Spoke to Glenn already and he'll have info for me Monday. Stock will most likely have to come from Germany.

Quote from: Petey on August 16, 2013, 11:08:01 PM

SMH.....sorry to hear it Joe..
Give it some time and all will be well again.

Hang in there Brother!

Petey.

Thanks Petey. I'm not giving up now!!! Glenn at Umarex is on it already!!

robert w · « **Reply #127 on:** August 16, 2013, 11:36:49 PM »

Quote from: palonej on August 16, 2013, 04:41:19 PM

Oh my God!! Takes a lot for me to lose my patience. This did it. Got the rifle back today and the stock is destroyed. Ugh. UPS was supposed to get a signature before leaving the package. We were home and no one rang the bell.....they just left it at the front door.
Opened it up and saw this. Ugh
Naturally Umarex does not have a stock.

joe, if that was my gun id get some real good wood glue, spread the crack open and put a generous supply of glue in the crack. and while it was still uncured id get some brass pins and use a drill bit that is a snug fit for the pins. bore down on the top side and make sure your almost all the way to the botton , then drive the braas pins down all the way . id use about 5 pins along the crack area . I have 2 double barel 12 gauges that are all fixed like that and they are holding real good . my gunsmith did the first gun for me and I did the last gun as I bought them cheep with cracked wood . ive shot a lot of skeet with both guns. it was gonna break it should have by now. that's what id do till you get another stock. oh if you do that I forgot you need to clamp it snug till the glue dries like 24 hours

palonej · « **Reply #128 on:** August 16, 2013, 11:44:39 PM »

I took the action out of the stock and will be gluing tomorrow Rob!!! Didn't think of the pins tho. Thanks bro!! Will let you know how it works out. Dying to shoot her!!

Sfttailrdr46 · « **Reply #129 on:** August 17, 2013, 02:05:58 AM »

It seems lately if it wasn't for bad luck you wouldn't have any be where guns and injuries are concerned Hang in there it has to get better soon

palonej · « **Reply #130 on:** August 17, 2013, 03:48:46 AM »

Thanks Don!! I'm just praying it doesn't get worse bro!!!

chuckinohio · « **Reply #131 on:** August 17, 2013, 06:15:49 AM »

Robert is right on with the brass pins Joe.

That is how I attach knife scales when I make them, and the pins plus epoxy really holds up well to abuse.
A repair along those lines will in all likelihood outlast the rifle.

Use GOOD wood glue, or epoxy along the lines of Devcon 2 Ton. Devcon 2 Ton will set up pretty stiff within 30 minutes, but there is some out there that is a longer setting formula if you can find it. Titebond lll wood glue will afford you like 10 minutes of work time and will set up pretty hard in an hour, it's good stuff.

Still leave it clamped up for a day to be sure it cures out all the way.

A shame that you're all the way over in Joizey, I got everything required right here in the shop. We could transverse drill the crack and put some neat mosaic pins in it for extra support and the accuracy benefits of BLING!!

michaelthomas · « **Reply #132 on:** August 17, 2013, 11:22:04 AM »

Yep....just glue it with regular wood glue. The glued joint will be stronger than any of it's surrounding material, so there is no need for anything additional.

Mike

palonej · « **Reply #133 on:** August 17, 2013, 11:23:08 AM »

Definitely sounds like a plan Chuck!!!
It's funny....worked for American Standard for 5 years and used to do 3 weeks on and one off in Tiffin Ohio. Right next to Findley. I used to drive, bout 9 - 10 hours, and loved that town. Used to be a GE and AS plants right next to each other. Together they employed around 9,000 people. Both closed now.
Shame, I could've stopped by!!!

chuckinohio · « **Reply #134 on:** August 17, 2013, 12:46:19 PM »

You probably came across Pennsylvania on I-80 right?
I've been to Edison N.J. once. I went to NYC with a buddy from Edison, and saw just enough to know that I wanted to go back to Ohio..........

I'm 2 hours south of Findlay, 15 miles or so above the I-75 and I-70 interchange.
We could have set up in the back field and shot out to 300 yards man!!

palonej · « **Reply #135 on:** August 17, 2013, 01:45:41 PM »

Exactly!! Worked all day in Tiffin then would drive about 15 - 20 miles to Findley....great pool room with a bar and grill. Got tons of action in that room!!
I play pool in Edison and live about a half hour south right down Rte 1.
You didn't like the city bro?

?
Chuck, I have 2 pool rooms, very large, in Manhattan that I handle all AC and refrig issues. Talk about torture!!!!! I take the Holland Tunnel to get home. It is 3/4 of a mile from one of the pool rooms on 4th Ave and East 11 St. It has taken me over 2 hours to get there bro. The first wonderful pic is about half way there. How could you not love this place??? Second is inside the tunnel. These are the times I am on the GTA the most!!! What else do you do??? The best part?

People still blow their horns!! Ugh
I miss Tiffin!!!

Gertrude · « **Reply #136 on:** August 17, 2013, 02:23:29 PM »

Best wood glue I've ever used, even stronger than Titebond.
http://www.gorillatough.com/

It literally IS stronger than the wood,... but you MUST clamp this stuff, as it foams/grows while drying.
and if not clamped, it will push the crack apart.
When it IS clamped, the foaming/growing works to your advantage, as it "injects itself" into the pores of the wood.

I have used this stuff to rebuild the rotted/broken out corner of a large Cab-Over Camper, (where the lifting jacks are mounted).
It is the strongest corner of the whole camper.

palonej · « **Reply #137 on:** August 17, 2013, 02:59:10 PM »

In Home Depot picking it up right now Ron. I have a 10 ball tourney at 7. Should be practicing, but I HAVE to try and repair this thing.
Thanks all!!
Need a bit of luck also. Never work with wood.....copper, sheet metal, black and galv piping no prob....but I gotta try.

Bullit · « **Reply #138 on:** August 17, 2013, 03:14:52 PM »

X2 on Gorilla glue. Cleans up easy too! Gotta luv technology!

Gertrude · « **Reply #139 on:** August 17, 2013, 03:27:36 PM »

Before you apply this stuff, do a practice run with your clamping method to make sure it wont slip.
You do not have to clamp the living dog-do out of it,... just clamp it so that it is real good and snug.
You might even back up any clamping with a few zip-ties around the stock.

Now once you are ready, read the instructions.
The stuff is weird and you'll think it's crazy,.. but it uses water as a catalyst.
Yep,... you will take a q-tip, cloth, or something to get the inside of the crack wet/moist... not dripping wet, but good and moist/wet.

Then apply the glue. use a toothpick or something similar to get it down into the crack as much as possible but no need to over-do it. just a thin coating kind of like honey on toast. You'll have plenty of working time before it starts to foam,... (5-10 minutes or so, maybe more), so don't worry.
clamp / strap / wrap/ zip-tie or whatever your method is, and let it sit overnight.

There WILL be some foamed dried glue that seeps out. don't worry about that,.... it's a good thing. that tells you the stuff has worked, and has injected itself into every nook and cranny. It will look sort of like a resin based expanding foam used in packaging delicate parts.
You can clean it up afterwards with a razor blade no problem.

Hey,... look at the Good Side,....
Now you'll have a good solid "Beater stock" you can slap onto the action anytime you might be out carrying it, where it might get dinged up.
Heck at that point have some fun with it and do some sort camo job, maybe a nice dip job,.... or go wild and paint it up like a Neon Zebra ! LOL!

Here's some pretty wild looking options...

http://www.splashgraphicswtp.com/Samples-sort.asp?catloc=Guns&offset=0

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Well dang .... major Diana 56 failure

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