Disco vs MM vs Hill hand pumps

[t_jones98]

Will a Disco pump fill an MRod or a B50-51?  (Really leaning toward the 50/51 as my first PCP)

Should I stay away from used?  Go with the pump from MM@Flying Dragon? 
Hill just seems so darned expensive! 

I have brewing equip and CO2 tanks.  But I'm not sure they're rated to 3000 (much less 4500).

Jonesy.

[Bullit]

Co2 tanks are a definite No Go.   Moisture and heat are your concerns with any hand pump AND your rifle.  This comes with high pressure air, as it turns to pressurized steam.   Dry air is what you want. Hand pumps don't have real good moisture control, without modifications and steady maintenance.   In your location, this may well be a concern to your rifle.   Have you thought about a scuba tank for clean air?  Dive shops have good clean air.

[t_jones98]

Thanks for the heads up on the CO2.   

The moisture should soon not be a problem as I am in the process of moving to SW Colorado (hopefully not burned to the ground).

That being said, if I were to start out with a pump, which of the three would be "sufficient", and would you stay away from a used one?  Or is there another hand pump option I am overlooking?

From a maintenance standpoint, I don't have a problem tinkering and rebuilding, whether a gun or pump.

Jonesy.

[cwlongshot]

Countless guys use the benji pump with great success.

As stated HEAT is the issue, so go slow enough not to build too much heat. That and the fact that the disco is only a 2K gun it should last longer then with a more common 3K gun.  Its a theory of mine that most of the bad rep is form pumping a 3K gun.

CW

[Nomadic Pirate]

I wouldn't even consider a Benjamin pump, Hills are great, the MM sounds like a good deal

[Nathan]

I have used both a FX and A Hill, and you get what you pay for. Can't speak for the Benji pump or MM pump. I have been using the same Hill pump for 10years, give or take a month.

Nathan

[t_jones98]

I wouldn't even consider a Benjamin pump, Hills are great, the MM sounds like a good deal

N/P - I appreciate the opinion, very well respected.  I am taking cost very much into perspective as well though.  The Hill, while it seems top of the line, is out of the price range. 

Would anyone even consider a used?

Jonesy.

[RatRacer]

I wouldn't even consider a Benjamin pump, Hills are great, the MM sounds like a good deal

N/P - I appreciate the opinion, very well respected.  I am taking cost very much into perspective as well though.  The Hill, while it seems top of the line, is out of the price range. 

Would anyone even consider a used?

Jonesy.

I use a Hill MK III and a FX 4 stage, and both were purchased used for well under $200 ea. 2 years ago. Both pump my arsenal without issue, and have not needed any repairs to date. The only "but" I have to offer is that I knew "of" the online sellers reputations and how meticulous they were with their equipment by their various other postings, to take on the risk. Timing , knowledge and funds is everything when buying used.
If you have a goal, have patience and it will materialize. Just be prepared.

[Nomadic Pirate]

How much is the MM pump ?

I might be getting one of them too,
I have 2 HILLs and one AXSOR right now

[t_jones98]

MM was quoted as $140 with the purchase of a rifle.

Hope I didn't overstep my bounds with that, but ... from what I hear, sounds like a quality product? 

Anyone know what a rebuild kit is for the Disco pump?

Jonesy.

[Nomadic Pirate]

If MM is selling it I would trust it to be a good product, again, rather than buying a benjamin I would save a bit and buy a HILL, but the MM sounds good

[Nomadic Pirate]

Can't even find those MM pumps on the website, do you have a link ?

[cwlongshot]

MM was quoted as $140 with the purchase of a rifle.

Hope I didn't overstep my bounds with that, but ... from what I hear, sounds like a quality product? 

Anyone know what a rebuild kit is for the Disco pump?

Jonesy.

http://sunopticsusa.com/handpump.html

[willbird]

Can't even find those MM pumps on the website, do you have a link ?

I found reference to them in his blog. Will send PM if I find it. Found it, will send via PM, was from a aug 2012 blog post.

160.00 shipped.

[willbird]

Here is the link :-)

http://flyingdragonairrifles.org/blog/?p=313

Wanted to be sure it was ok first, a friend warned me of some of the "dynamics" of the air gun world and I do not want to step on any toes :-)

Bill

[t_jones98]

That's why I was a little hesitant, not sure if it's a deal only with purchase of a gun.

Jonesy.

[Nomadic Pirate]

so, he he still selling them ? ...interested at that price for sure

[Bullit]

Lifetime warranty.  Wonder what that covers.  Mike stated that it comes with a rebuild kit.  It is curious.

[Maher1510]

I have one of mm's hand pumps works great. I use it to pump a ninja 3k bottle on a qb79

[nervoustrigger]

From what I've read, you're probably better off with the Xisico pump over the Benjamin.  I would argue there are a lot more people with Benji pumps and therefore we can expect to find more examples of Benji pumps needing repair, but even taking that into consideration, it just appeared to me that there are too many people reporting early failures and ongoing issues.

Frankly I was a little skeptical of the Xisico pump but I got one from Mike 6 months ago when I bought a B51 and it has worked flawlessly so far.  I shoot the rifle a good bit and I'd say I've probably filled it 100 times since getting it.  I do try to pause for a few minutes after 50 pumps or so.  Regardless of which pump you get, either buy or build a dessicant drier.  Seals and O-rings will eventually wear but can be replaced, whereas corrosion and pitting is forever...both in the pump and in the rifle.