Author Topic: Beeman P17-Cheap pistol with a great trigger (Read 46575 times))

stalwart · « **Reply #100 on:** June 30, 2013, 10:42:02 AM »

Following very closely. Thanks.

Tom SC · « **Reply #101 on:** July 01, 2013, 01:36:11 PM »

This has been a great thread thanks very much. I have a P17 on the way now and the anticipation is a killer. I can say that here you folks now how it feels. This looks like a perfect front porch plinker I've been looking for, the pcp has to stay in the backyard it is too loud. Hope it gets here soon I'm losing a little sleep. Ugh

Bob H. · « **Reply #102 on:** July 01, 2013, 02:29:52 PM »

Tom,
I really enjoy my P17. Since it has arrived, I hardly pet the 2240. I've been tweaking one of the three that my wife let me buy.

My wife and I are both in our 60's and can shoot safely in one of our out buildings. We mainly punch paper and kill cans (sometimes we kill a can twice.)

I have a Center Point laser sight on the P17 that I'm tweaking, I love it! Put the red dot on the target and smack it!

Both of use have some aging issues. I have lowered the compression of the air cylinder by counterboring the piston face. The pistol is now shooting CPHPs at 350 FPS. That is about a 12% drop in velocity, an a noticeable reduction in cocking effort. I went to the shed this morning and shot it off a rest, laser sight, and standing. I shot a 5 shot group at 10 meters that measured less that 8 millimeters, The velocity drop doesn't appear to have hurt the pistol's accuracy. Yep, it's a good porch plinker, I just have too many neighbors around my porch.

I'm sure that you will enjoy you P17 too.

BobH.

Quote from: Tom SC on July 01, 2013, 01:36:11 PM

This has been a great thread thanks very much. I have a P17 on the way now and the anticipation is a killer. I can say that here you folks now how it feels. This looks like a perfect front porch plinker I've been looking for, the pcp has to stay in the backyard it is too loud. Hope it gets here soon I'm losing a little sleep. Ugh

Tom SC · « **Reply #103 on:** July 01, 2013, 02:51:41 PM »

Hey Bob about your laser do you think it would illuminate anything outside during the day? Or would the sun wash it out,maybe in the shade of a tree or near sundown may work. I don't think shooting indoors is an option for me unless I rope off the living room and the bedroom hallway, hmmm. I've always wanted to try a laser. Those are great groups by the way.

Bob H. · « **Reply #104 on:** July 01, 2013, 05:05:40 PM »

Tom,

I really don't know much about laser sights. Mine is a Center Point Quick Acquisition Laser Sight from PA, cost $21.95. There are several reviews on the PA site. I'm cheap, so I bought cheap, read the reviews. I know that its daylight range will be short and it will depend of how bright a day it is. On a really bright day with tired batteries maybe only a few yards, but that is a guess.

BobH.

45Man · « **Reply #105 on:** July 01, 2013, 05:44:59 PM »

Quote from: Tom SC on July 01, 2013, 02:51:41 PM

Hey Bob about your laser do you think it would illuminate anything outside during the day? Or would the sun wash it out,maybe in the shade of a tree or near sundown may work. I don't think shooting indoors is an option for me unless I rope off the living room and the bedroom hallway, hmmm. I've always wanted to try a laser. Those are great groups by the way.

You won't be able to see a red laser outdoors during the day. A red dot sight is far better.

wern0r · « **Reply #106 on:** July 02, 2013, 03:20:43 AM »

Another mini mod: I cut off the bottom of a 9mm Luger cartridge, polished it and glued it over the fake-mag-release-button on the left side of the gun. It fits perfectly

45Man · « **Reply #107 on:** July 02, 2013, 08:30:23 PM »

Quote from: wern0r on July 02, 2013, 03:20:43 AM

Another mini mod: I cut off the bottom of a 9mm Luger cartridge, polished it and glued it over the fake-mag-release-button on the left side of the gun. It fits perfectly...

It's fake. Why would you want to make it more noticeable? It's best to ignore all the fake controls.

wern0r · « **Reply #108 on:** July 03, 2013, 03:38:34 AM »

Quote from: 45Man on July 02, 2013, 08:30:23 PM

Why would you want to make it more noticeable?

Because polished brass always looks good

Bob H. · « **Reply #109 on:** July 05, 2013, 07:20:07 PM »

Shooting my P 17 is addictive. My wife and I were camping on the 4th, we were on private property. Some of our friends stopped by while we were shooting. I had the P 17 with the laser on it and was slowly killing a hanging beverage can. I shot the bottom 3/4 inch away. My friends really enjoyed shooting the combo, I wasn't sure that I would get it back.

BobH.

BillK · « **Reply #110 on:** July 05, 2013, 10:54:34 PM »

I read about the P17 here and the CPO forum and couldn't resist.
Got it yesterday. Cleaned the barrel and checked the piston & tube for burs and found none. Wiped out all the mystery lube and just couldn't bring myself to put grease all over. Just didn't seem right.
I used the MAC1 Secret Sauce valve & pivot oil. Shot it a couple of times and had to leave it for the 4th festivities.
This morning I sighted in the open sights and just had fun shooting. It is as advertised. Fun, accurate, good trigger, simple operation and CHEAP. What a bargin.
I used the Chrony and was really pleased. Crosman Premier 7.9g = 390 - 393 fps. Crosman Pointed 7.4g = 417 - 423 - 422 fps. Just for the heck of it I did the SSP 4.0g = 523 - 522- 531 fps.
I'll probably stick with the Crosman Pointed as they seem accurate and best of all they slip right into the barrel. No pushing needed.
I really like it and thank you all for letting us know about it.

linoww · « **Reply #111 on:** July 07, 2013, 01:59:24 AM »

I have a P3 and just bought a P17 for a comparison.The trigger is heavier and has creep on the second stage. The rear sight is not so solid click wise and the elevation nut on the underside is loose as well.Other than that its pretty close but the P3 cocks smoother.It doesn't justify the extra $200 for the P3.Group wise the P3 will almost one hole them at 10 meters(with red-dot).The P17 with RWS Basics @ 425fps isn't so shabby either.I have done nothing but wipe it down and shot it about 250 times today.it was well lubed with the stuff that smells like the lube on AK47's and SKS's i used to clean up at a local gun shop as a kid in trade for powder and primers.

typical @ 10 meters-

Bob H. · « **Reply #112 on:** July 07, 2013, 10:22:07 AM »

lino,
That is great shooting! I haven't matched those groups. I believe my P 17 can do that, but I haven't the optical ability to do my part. My best 5 shot group at 10 meters is about 5/16 inch center to center. I no longer drool over P 5's.

The P 17 is a tinker's delight, I've tweaked the trigger some and have made it easier to cock. My pellet transfer tool makes loading much easier. For forty bucks, I'm well pleased.

BobH.

linoww · « **Reply #113 on:** July 07, 2013, 05:24:55 PM »

I shot a two more right after the same size as those four. I don't think they're quarter inch groups but well under half.I think i can replace teh trigger spring from my misc. spring box and get the pull lighter.What did you do to adjust yours lighter?

Bob H. · « **Reply #114 on:** July 07, 2013, 06:17:38 PM »

Quote from: linoww on July 07, 2013, 05:24:55 PM

I shot a two more right after the same size as those four. I don't think they're quarter inch groups but well under half.I think i can replace teh trigger spring from my misc. spring box and get the pull lighter.What did you do to adjust yours lighter?

linoww,

I cheated, I stretched the sear spring. When I could just see daylight between the coils, I quit. I made a slip on extention for the trigger adjusting screw to diminish the first stage, that helped a bunch. If you do not have enough travel the safety will not function. The mechanicals are under the right grip. There pins that are supported both by the frame and the right grip, be patient.
Please remember that what I have done may not work equally as well on your P 17, take little steps.

BobH.

Tom SC · « **Reply #115 on:** July 08, 2013, 03:17:41 PM »

Got mine on Thur. love this gun. I need the practice shooting off hand away from the bench and I'm getting plenty. I keep finding myself grabbing some pellets and heading for some quick plinking in between chores and other stuff. The trigger is better than anything else I shoot, makes me smile. Best fun for 36 bucks.

linoww · « **Reply #116 on:** July 09, 2013, 12:10:50 AM »

Did the trigger job(ala spring stretch--thanks Bob H.--) and what an improvement! Shot four more groups at 10 meters and then took 5 at a paper i had a 34yards.Drop was about 10 inches and group was 1-3/8" If there is any gun in the world as accurate per dollar spent i'd be surprised!

all shot with Crosman 250ct pointed pellets from Wal-Mart.BSA red-blue-green $30 Dot Sight.

Tom SC · « **Reply #117 on:** July 09, 2013, 10:15:08 AM »

A question for you folks with the red dots. How are you cocking the pistols? Do you push down on the red dot sight or what?

Bob H. · « **Reply #118 on:** July 09, 2013, 11:02:17 AM »

[quote author=Tom SC
A question for you folks with the red dots. How are you cocking the pistols? Do you push down on the red dot sight or what?

Tom,

I have (3) P 17s. One of them, will get delivered to my son. One has a Center Point red laser on it. The third one was purchased as a P 17 Kit and has a Beeman red dot sight.

This red dot sight has infinite eye relief and can be mounted anywhere on the rib. I positioned it so that the battery cover just clears the front sight ramp. That gives me almost 3" of rib and rear sight to push on while I'm cocking the pistol. If you are not ever going to use the factory rear sight you could remove it and add a cocking pad. The nut on the rear sight elevation adjuster could be utilized in mounting the pad.

BobH.

45Man · « **Reply #119 on:** July 09, 2013, 01:51:25 PM »

Quote from: Tom SC on July 09, 2013, 10:15:08 AM

A question for you folks with the red dots. How are you cocking the pistols? Do you push down on the red dot sight or what?

Yes.

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