Webley Rebel .177 first impression + PICS

[Novagun]

I am still battling on with my Webley Rebel and I am disappointed that I do not have anything startlingly positive to report. For the first time I completely removed the bolt and looked at the rifling in the barrel. There is something in there that is not quite right. I can not identify the fault and I do not have the ability to photograph it and display. My gut feeling is that the barrel liner is not steel. On cleaning it does not shine like steel and testing the exposed bit at the muzzle end it seems too soft. It also occurs to me that the liner could be a tube fabricated out of  rolled flat bar and somehow rifled. I will bet money that it is not a proper tube drawn over a mandrel and definitely not a better made barrel. Well that stands to reason considering the price.

I have talked to others and found the the barrel assembly: that is the plastic outer tube is held into the breach block with glue and breaks away cleanly.
I am considering replacing the whole barrel with a steel one. All I need to find is a steel barrel from another air rifle that is or can be turned down to about 13 mms at the necessary points but it must be at least 510 mms long. I am looking!

[DavidS]

Ok.  I guess that the Webley Rebel .22 is coming off of my list of wants.  Oh well.   After shooting two newer ones the Crosman Benjiman 392 already dropped off of my list as a want.

So it seems that any of the MSP's that come with decent power anymore are no goes .

[twith70]

After reading many reviews lately, it seems airgun quality all the way around isgoing down hill quick. I recently purchased a HW97K that buzzes and vibrates on firing. I thought a $600 rifle should shoot like perfection out of the box, not have to spend another $100 on after market parts and hours of my time to make it right. I have a 1985 Sheridan Blue Streak and will not let go of it for the simple fact no one makes them like they used to!

[lillysdad621]

Twith... your 97 is worth every penny of those 600 bucks, even if it twangs and buzzes. it is a great gun that will outlast you by many decades, and the twang and buzz is mostly to the fact that they are not hand assembled, but produced in a factory (to much higher standards than say a crosman fury...). The good thing is that they are capable to reach perfection with not an inhuman effort or expense. I have a HW77k that i also bought new, and after that sent it to a tuner to debuzz and tune it for my needs. That cost 400 dollars in top of the purchase price. But now i have a rifle that i would not sell for 1000 dollars, out of fear of never finding another one that shoots or fits me this well. By the way, the HW will get smoother after a tin or two... but to make it glass smooth you will need a tune. The sheridan is great... i also own a rocker safety one that i will never sell... its not perfect but it feels good... like a HW.

[DavidS]

I do have a few more questions about the Webley Rebel.   I am still considering ordering one, though I would have to know a bit more.

The Questions

• What kind of seals are used for the Trigger, Valve Assembly, Transfer port, etc.?
• What is needed to take the Webley Rebel apart?
• What kind of piston does the Webley Rebel have?
• What kind of valve does the Webley Rebel have?
• How is the trigger setup?
• What kind of hammer does it use?
• How is the hammer set up?

[D14Jeff]

found this for ya davids

https://www.gunspares.co.uk/products/24995/Rebel/

http://angryangryguncompany.blogspot.com/2013/04/sharp-innova-dissassembly-and.html

[DavidS]

found this for ya davids

https://www.gunspares.co.uk/products/24995/Rebel/

http://angryangryguncompany.blogspot.com/2013/04/sharp-innova-dissassembly-and.html

Thank you.   I am definitely going to order one as soon as money allows.

That is one nicely designed MSP .