ANOTHER 1377 post ;)

[wlsinwi]

There are plenty of bolts on eBay for $20.  I like that stainless steel one with the magnet to hold the bolt back.  I watched a youTube video on probe modding that said if you make the tip too long it will give you a decrease in fps.

[cwlongshot]

There are plenty of bolts on eBay for $20.  I like that stainless steel one with the magnet to hold the bolt back.  I watched a youTube video on probe modding that said if you make the tip too long it will give you a decrease in fps.

Mine cost me nothing and took maybe 15 minutes...    BUT I do LIKE the magnet!!! I have a few REM that are .220 but .250 long... So MAYBE I could remove the back of the bolt and epoxy one on... 

I don't know if the loss would be less than the gain tho. Meaning if you GAIN say 10 fps, seating the pellet too deep may loose you 8. (Not 18) BUT not all pellets are created equal, so choose a pellet and build your probe.   That's the fun of modding, you get change it to fit YOUR needs.

I have installed a brass safety and Allen bolts for the grip and breech. MUCH better than the &^^& reg/Phillips the factory uses...

CW

[cwlongshot]

Last week I pretty much decided I NEEDED a 2289.... I even went so far as to make up the order... I just did not send it. 

So after coming to my senses, I found a deal on a butt stock and called Crosman Monday and ordered a 24'' .177 barrel! (I'll chop it down to 14'' or 16'') Any how I decided to convert my 1377 into a carbine.

I picked up a metal barrel band for the longer barrel. I have installed a AimPoint CompC scope and a FTP/V this week end I'll get the chrony out and see what I get with that.



CW

[silent_airman]

Last week I pretty much decided I NEEDED a 2289.... I even went so far as to make up the order... I just did not send it. 

So after coming to my senses, I found a deal on a butt stock and called Crosman Monday and ordered a 24'' .177 barrel! (I'll chop it down to 14'' or 16'') Any how I decided to convert my 1377 into a carbine.

I picked up a metal barrel band for the longer barrel. I have installed a AimPoint CompC scope and a FTP/V this week end I'll get the chrony out and see what I get with that.



CW

I have an 18 inch on my 1322 and it is a nice balance. I'll take some pics of my gun and share later. Nothing uber fancy, but I love it. And, as you said, modding makes the gun a personal expression. There's always more to do! 

Oh, and my new 1377 arrives tomorrow. Mod on, baby! 

[cwlongshot]

LOL so true!!

Please do post pics I would love to see them!

CW

[silent_airman]

Here's my carbine. This has an 18 inch barrel, a 2289 fore end, custom bolt handle, and a Gamo 4x32 scope. Also a custom muzzle brake. I also drilled out the pump hinge and replaced the roll pin with a stainless steel 1/16th inch pin and nuts. Pumps a lot smoother. Also put a lighter trigger spring in. Really fun to shoot.

[cwlongshot]

Here's my carbine. This has an 18 inch barrel, a 2289 fore end, custom bolt handle, and a Gamo 4x32 scope. Also a custom muzzle brake. I also drilled out the pump hinge and replaced the roll pin with a stainless steel 1/16th inch pin and nuts. Pumps a lot smoother. Also put a lighter trigger spring in. Really fun to shoot.

LOOKS GREAT TOO!!!!!

CW

[silent_airman]

Oh, and here's my new 1377, er, actually it's a 1322 (But who's actually minding?) This is my 'before' photo.



I took the 177 barrel off to convert my 2240 into a 2217. Here is what I have thus far with that. Mind you, all my guns here are WIPs.

[silent_airman]

Thanks, CW. 

[cwlongshot]

I took the 177 barrel off to convert my 2240 into a 2217. Here is what I have thus far with that. Mind you, all my guns here are WIPs.

VERY NICE!!!

CW

[silent_airman]

I took the 177 barrel off to convert my 2240 into a 2217. Here is what I have thus far with that. Mind you, all my guns here are WIPs.

VERY NICE!!!

CW

Again, thanks. I do need to finish those grips. I want a nice gloss finish that shows off the grain. Any suggestions?

[nervoustrigger]

The grain looks pretty good already.  Does it have a penetrating oil rubbed in already?  It looks like it does.  If not, rub in some boiled linseed oil (BLO) to make the grain really pop out.  I've done some tool handles in cherry and walnut, and a good smooth sanding followed with BLO gives an amazing grain rendition.  From there, most any clear finish will do.  I prefer lacquer over polyurethane.  Poly is nice and durable in part because it is plastic but it also feels like plastic and I find it to be slightly unpleasant to the touch, especially if you go with multiple coats to improve the appearance of depth.

[cwlongshot]

My favorites are Linseed and Tung oils.  I recently tried Danish oil and it came out nice too. But I prefer more depth, IMHO. linseed/linspeed give me that best.

Tru oil from birchwood casey also does a fine job too.

BUT a good finish is 99% prep. the wood needs to be as smooth as you can get it. Sand down to at least 320/400g then start with the steel wool grades, damp wetting and allowing to dry between. Even then apply a coat or two and steel wool it off! After about 5-6 coats, if you have prepped properly, you will begin to see what your going to get. DRY, LIQUID WOOD!

CW

[silent_airman]

The grain looks pretty good already.  Does it have a penetrating oil rubbed in already?  It looks like it does.  If not, rub in some boiled linseed oil (BLO) to make the grain really pop out.  I've done some tool handles in cherry and walnut, and a good smooth sanding followed with BLO gives an amazing grain rendition.  From there, most any clear finish will do.  I prefer lacquer over polyurethane.  Poly is nice and durable in part because it is plastic but it also feels like plastic and I find it to be slightly unpleasant to the touch, especially if you go with multiple coats to improve the appearance of depth.

I don't know if anything has been rubbed into it. I put them on as is. Sounds good. I will give that a try. Thanks.

[silent_airman]

My favorites are Linseed and Tung oils.  I recently tried Danish oil and it came out nice too. But I prefer more depth, IMHO. linseed/linspeed give me that best.

Tru oil from birchwood casey also does a fine job too.

BUT a good finish is 99% prep. the wood needs to be as smooth as you can get it. Sand down to at least 320/400g then start with the steel wool grades, damp wetting and allowing to dry between. Even then apply a coat or two and steel wool it off! After about 5-6 coats, if you have prepped properly, you will begin to see what your going to get. DRY, LIQUID WOOD!

CW

I hate sanding, but I want a nice finish, sooooo.... Thanks CW.

[silent_airman]

(rubbing hands together, a gleeful glint in my eyes) I have another project in mind, CW. Going to put a stock adapter and a Tippmann 98 stock on my 1322.

[cwlongshot]

(rubbing hands together, a gleeful glint in my eyes) I have another project in mind, CW. Going to put a stock adapter and a Tippmann 98 stock on my 1322.

Ya know, I don't like the look so never thought about them much. But I was talking to a guy at the range and he produced one! I do like the way they feel!  The forward grip like the AR is APEALING.

Post some pics!

CW

[silent_airman]

(rubbing hands together, a gleeful glint in my eyes) I have another project in mind, CW. Going to put a stock adapter and a Tippmann 98 stock on my 1322.

Ya know, I don't like the look so never thought about them much. But I was talking to a guy at the range and he produced one! I do like the way they feel!  The forward grip like the AR is APEALING.

Post some pics!

CW

My main reason for doing the telescoping stock is for my grandkids who don't have the arm length to handle the Crosman stock. This way we can pass the gun back and forth and everyone can adjust for their size. I will put the Crosman stock on my other 1322 and maybe put the 24 inch barrel I have on hand on that gun. I will probably go with my stock sights on that. I have some options, so we shall see. I will post pics once I get the parts in and the gun ready. Should be cool!

[F7FTIGERCAT]

bolts with long probes have been seen on fleabay, and amazon plus most of the venders listed on this forum


Ed

[cwlongshot]

I was able to spend some time running a bunch of pellets thru all my guns yesterday!

1) I got 770fps with 20 pumps and a BEEMAN Laser pellet 7.2g



2) I got 748fps with 17 pumps and a Crosman Destroyer pellet 8g



3) I got 660fps with 20 pumps and a Exact Monster pellet of 13.2 g



4) I got 615fps from 17 pumps and another Exact Diablo pellet of 11g



At first I found I was topping out at 500fps W/11g pellet. I was getting that was SAME velocity from 10-17 pumps! So, I pulled piston out, pulled off O rings and checked head space. I found a bad O ring and head space off!! I re adjusted, lubed and installed new O rings and tested again. Velocity jumped to numbers quoted above. 

Like I said, I'll post up pics later. I tested about 5/6 different pellets at 2 pump intervals as you did above. Looks like the FTP netted me about a 15% increase in velocity. A bit short of the 100fps claims. But being able to pump additional times makes it worthwhile. I still need to pin this valve and that will boost vel more.

Ooh and if I am figuring it correctly the 7g pellet nets me 10 fpE and the 13g 16 fpE! 

CW